Sephiroth vs Cloud

Except for the fact that he can't use it at the start of a battle, champ. Give me an official statement that its a normal attack, because until you have that he's only done it twice after being under extreme duress...

And you took that from me, silly. I starting calling you sport and champ, then you thought you'd be cool by taking that from me, remember? 🙂 You've never been very good at debating Sephiroth because you're extremely biased against him, everyone on this board can see that, exlaining why no one agrees with you here. 🙁

ofcourse, if the whole move happens in a blink of an eye, and Sephiroth can do nothing in the duration, its faster than he is and its faster than his moves as well as his thought process, and its not as if Cloud has to think much about it.... he just seems to let loose all his little blades and away he goes.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Except for the fact that he can't use it at the start of a battle, champ. Give me an official statement that its a normal attack, because until you have that he's only done it twice after being under extreme duress...

And you took that from me, silly. I starting calling you sport and champ, then you thought you'd be cool by taking that from me, remember? 🙂 You've never been very good at debating Sephiroth because you're extremely biased against him, everyone on this board can see that, exlaining why no one agrees with you here. 🙁

Burdon of proof is on you...I dont have to prove your side of the argument

*explaining and you have some major insecurities Chief 🙂 sort out some argument and learn to debate, then come back to these boards and while your at it, read the rules, Ime not sure I could count the amount of times a Mod has had to pick you up on your nonsense and whats worse you try and degrade them for it....

No, silly. The burden of poof is on you. I have given plenty of evidence proving he can only use it under extreme duress, and you have done nothing but say prove it. Since all the given evidence is on my side, its your job to prove that false. 🙂

Originally posted by Zack Fair
WTF does Ofc mean?

Of ****!ng course.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ofcourse, if the whole move happens in a blink of an eye, and Sephiroth can do nothing in the duration, its faster than he is and its faster than his moves as well as his thought process, and its not as if Cloud has to think much about it.... he just seems to let loose all his little blades and away he goes.

LoL. Did it ever occur to you that Sephiroth can do nothing in the duration because he has to lose to Cloud?

He thought about his family and friends before doing the limit 😕

And I disagree about Cloud being able to do Omnislash from the very beginning. He has never done it. We even had to wait for Cloud to fill his limit bar to perform it. It wasn't just "instantly" there.

Anyways.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
LoL. Did it ever occur to you that Sephiroth can do nothing in the duration because he has to lose to Cloud?

And I disagree about Cloud being able to do Omnislash from the very beginning. He has never done it. We even had to wait for Cloud to fill his limit bar to perform it. It wasn't just "instantly" there.

Anyways.

Thats fallacious, what has he officially done faster than a blink? ive not seen ANY feat from him showing him faster than a blink of an eye.

Well theres nothing to actually officially state him not being able to, I could claim PIS/CIS for Omnislash just the same as you Sephiroth lovers claim he was under PIS. Your assuming that he has to somehow get angry or w/e to use it.....theres nothing officially stating it that ive seen.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thats fallacious, what has he officially done faster than a blink? ive not seen [b]ANY feat from him showing him faster than a blink of an eye.

Well theres nothing to actually officially state him not being able to, I could claim PIS/CIS for Omnislash just the same as you Sephiroth lovers claim he was under PIS. Your assuming that he has to somehow get angry or w/e to use it.....theres nothing officially stating it that ive seen. [/B]

Except Cloud had an entire fight to perform his "miraculous bullshit" move on Sephiroth and didn't until he was already beaten, humiliated and was reminded of those he loves.

Sephiroth on the other hand stabbed Cloud in the shoulder when he could have easily chopped his head off. That is Character Induced Stupidity at its finest.

Hold it fella. I am not a Sephiroth lover. Are you so biased against Sephiroth that its either love or hate? That is childish.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Except Cloud had an entire fight to perform his "miraculous bullshit" move on Sephiroth and didn't until he was already beaten, humiliated and was reminded of those he loves.

Sephiroth on the other hand stabbed Cloud in the shoulder when he could have easily chopped his head off. That is Character Induced Stupidity at its finest.

Hold it fella. I am not a Sephiroth lover. Are you so biased against Sephiroth that its either love or hate? That is childish.

No logic tells us that simply being angry suddenly gives you a new special technique to defeat an opponent.

But that could have been avoided if Cloud hadnt had just done the Omnislash as soon as he saw Sephiroth.

You constantly seem to give Sephiroth a win in most threads, not as bad to a degree and Fascist or Terry and SHM but you give Sephiroth a win. Usually without debate.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No logic tells us that simply being angry suddenly gives you a new special technique to defeat an opponent.

But that could have been avoided if Cloud hadnt had just done the Omnislash as soon as he saw Sephiroth.

You constantly seem to give Sephiroth a win in most threads, not as bad to a degree and Fascist or Terry and SHM but you give Sephiroth a win. Usually without debate.

No logic tells us that we do not aim to chop your eternal nemesis's head off when we have the golden oportunity. Especially when he has been under these circunstances already and kicked our asses.

Logic in FF...w00t

I gave up on hardcore debating long ago. Hardly give any in-depth explanations as to why x character wins. Besides saying Sephiroth wins x threads doesn't make me a Sephiroth lover. Is it really that simple to you?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
No logic tells us that we do not aim to chop your eternal nemesis's head off when we have the golden oportunity. Especially when he has been under these circunstances already and kicked our asses.

Logic in FF...w00t

I gave up on hardcore debating long ago. Hardly give any in-depth explanations as to why x character wins. Besides saying Sephiroth wins x threads doesn't make me a Sephiroth lover. Is it really that simple to you?

But thats guessed, your guessing that thats how it works, ime using typical logic that makes sense in the real world like anyone would do in a debate when the universe in question has not specifically outlined every variable (most fictions) and FF is one of them. The fact remains, getting angry has never been stated in FF to give you new powers all of a sudden.

Your actions of stating sephiroth winner without debate implies you are a Sephiroth fanboy.

Originally posted by Burning thought
But thats guessed, your guessing that thats how it works, ime using typical logic that makes sense in the real world like anyone would do in a debate when the universe in question has not specifically outlined every variable (most fictions) and FF is one of them. The fact remains, getting angry has never been stated in FF to give you new powers all of a sudden.

Your actions of stating sephiroth winner without debate implies you are a Sephiroth fanboy.

Think whatever you want, kiddo. I know I am no fan of that mama's boy.

I could go out of my way and start labeling you a deluded Kain fanboy, but have I ever done it?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Think whatever you want, kiddo. I know I am no fan of that mama's boy.

I could go out of my way and start labeling you a deluded Kain fanboy, but have I ever done it?

I debate anything with Kain in it, thats what makes the diffrence between a fanboy, and someone simply with an opinion, so you would be wrong.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Gets ready to use it? wtf......show me him, "getting ready" to use it....well no, sorry but Cloud will destroy Sephiroth while hes "getting ready" to use his sword beams in that case....

You have no idea what that is, do you? Sephiroth swings his sword, and a long beam cuts Cloud in half. As we saw, Cloud had to put his sword away, and pull it out, that is getting ready, as Sephiroth will be too fast for that. You should really stop BT while you can.

Had to put his sword away and then get it out? ....wtf......

Originally posted by Burning thought
I debate anything with Kain in it, thats what makes the diffrence between a fanboy, and someone simply with an opinion, so you would be wrong.

WTF does that mean?

So you simply have an opinion? Really? Do you truly believe that shit? So I guess I'm a Ryu fanboy because I posted saying Ryu wins in some threads? Oh shit I'm everyone's fanboy. What a FKN tool I am.

WTF?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Had to put his sword away and then get it out? ....wtf......

Have you even seen the fight in AC, or are you pretending like you are right now. Do you need 5 videos?

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
Have you even seen the fight in AC, or are you pretending like you are right now. Do you need 5 videos?

Sure show me them videos.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
WTF does that mean?

So you simply have an opinion? Really? Do you truly believe that shit? So I guess I'm a Ryu fanboy because I posted saying Ryu wins in some threads? Oh shit I'm everyone's fanboy. What a FKN tool I am.

WTF?

A fanboy is usually someone who would consistently state his character the winner without debate.

perhaps I did not see you posting "ryu" wins since I dont enter those threads, I didnt think it meant enough for you to make a hissy fit out of it, maybe ill admit your not a Sephiroth fanboy and that perhaps your just post count boosting....

Originally posted by Burning thought
Sure show me them videos.

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIY7KmwnIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCjGvIJzk6k

Originally posted by Burning thought
A fanboy is usually someone who would consistently state his character the winner without debate.

perhaps I did not see you posting "ryu" wins since I dont enter those threads, I didnt think it meant enough for you to make a hissy fit out of it, maybe ill admit your not a Sephiroth fanboy and that perhaps your just post count boosting....

-Nod-

I'm cool now. Being called a Seph fanboy made my blood burn lol. I honestly can't stand the guy and all the love he gets because he has a big sword and a fancy haircut.

If only SE decided to work on another game in the series besides FF7. Shit I bet Dissidia's cover will have the face of Cloud with a shirtless Sephiroth reflected in his eyes.