Barriss Offee's Gauntlet!

Originally posted by Arhael

Nick Gillard discussed with Lucas "fightning prowess" of characters. Yoda, Windu and Anakin are 9 just like Sidious. If you want exact statement with word "equal", then there is none. Equally I can say that nowhere Sidious is stated to be Kenobi's superior in lightsaber combat.

His exact words were "They're up with Sidious." A pretty clear statement of parity.

Originally posted by Arhael
Which I am not arguing against. That still doesn't mean that Kenobi cannot stalemate or even defeat him in sabers.

Yeah 9>8. It's not >>> The Master of Soresu is not going to be easy pickings in Sabers.

Arhael
You seem to have nothing to do anyway. 😉

You pursue my attention so eagerly, why not reward you for your persistence?

Arhael
I acknowledged disadvantages of Jar'Kai as well.

Then you should have little difficulty grasping why I don't subscribe to the ridiculous notion that "sidious only won cuz of two saberz!!!! lololol!!1!"

Arhael
Nick Gillard discussed with Lucas "fightning prowess" of characters. Yoda, Windu and Anakin are 9 just like Sidious.

facepalm

That doesn't mean their skill is identical or equal.

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5:30, courtesy of Nick Gillard. Even among peers, there can clearly be some disparity.

Arhael
If you want exact statement with word "equal", then there is none.

Arhael
Anakin having equal saber prowess is direct proof that you were wrong and your apology demands were rude and unreasonable.

^ So what you claimed here is untrue? Excellent. Concession accepted. If I may offer (again) some advice for your future endeavors:

Arhael
There is a reason why people make sure they have solid evidence before rushing to such bold conclusions.

😂

Arhael
Equally I can say that nowhere Sidious is stated to be Kenobi's superior in lightsaber combat.

Sidious, Yoda, Mace, and Anakin all being level 9 means that they're in the same class; Obi-Wan being a level 8, per Gillard, means he's not in that class. You should know this, since you provided the damning quote.

I didn't bother reading the remaining post. Your dishonesty is both unwarranted and most hurtful. 😬

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Then you should have little difficulty grasping why I don't subscribe to the ridiculous notion that "sidious only won cuz of two saberz!!!! lololol!!1!"

That doesn't mean their skill is identical or equal.

5:30, courtesy of Nick Gillard. Even among peers, there can clearly be some disparity.

^ So what you claimed here is untrue? Excellent. Concession accepted. If I may offer (again) some advice for your future endeavors:

Sidious, Yoda, Mace, and Anakin all being level 9 means that they're in the same class; Obi-Wan being a level 8, per Gillard, means he's not in that class. You should know this, since you provided the damning quote.

Arhael
Again you take words out of context. You are pathetic.

I won't apologize for the ability to ridicule your argument while simultaneously debunking it. 😬

Arhael
Indeed, there can be disparity but insignificant one.

I need not prove the extent of disparity, merely the potential existence of one.

You claimed that Anakin's "lightsaber prowess" was "equal" to Sidious's despite having zero evidence to support it:

Arhael
Anakin having equal saber prowess

Then, you concede it:

Arhael
If you want exact statement with word "equal", then there is none.

Then, when taunted, you retract your concession:

Arhael
No, what I said is true. Last time I checked 9 is equal to 9.

It's clear that pride, rather than logic, dictates your arguments. (This is why I was taunting you.)

Arhael
We know that even level 8 can compete level 9 as Kenobi demonstrated against Anakin.

Obi-Wan benefited from intimate knowledge of Anakin's technique and idiosyncrasies; knowledge he'd lack against Sidious, to say nothing of Anakin's tenuous mental state that undermined his performance.

Arhael
Assuming that Anakin can't compete Sidious in sabers despite being on the same level is ridiculous.

I never claimed that Anakin can't compete with Sidious.

I'm afraid this is the last demonstration of naked deceit I'll entertain, Arhael. Welcome to my ignore list. 👆

Nice One Arhael.

When Tempest puts you on ignore it means you've called him out on his shit 👆

I wonder if your creepiness is the product of hard work or natural talent...

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I won't apologize for the ability to ridicule your argument while simultaneously debunking it. 😬

Then, you concede it:

Then, when taunted, you retract your concession:

It's clear that pride, rather than logic, dictates your arguments. (This is why I was taunting you.)

Obi-Wan benefited from intimate knowledge of Anakin's technique and idiosyncrasies; knowledge he'd lack against Sidious, to say nothing of Anakin's tenuous mental state that undermined his performance.

I never claimed that Anakin can't compete with Sidious.

It was Kenobi you claimed can't compete Sidious "on any level". You made this claim because Kenobi is not on the list of that vague quote. That means that by your interpretation Anakin, also, can't compete Sidious "on any level". Yet, you never claimed that. Now either you agree that Anakin can't compete Sidious on any level as well. Or concede that it is unwise to judge by a vague quote. Any other choice means that you use double standards.

I'm afraid this is the last demonstration of naked deceit I'll entertain, Arhael. Welcome to my ignore list. 👆

I wasn't even talking to the no.1 TROLL so I don't know why he's directly addressed me.

Do us all a favor and just put the whole of KMC on ignore 👆

Barriss is no Jedi. She attacked the Temple, nearly killed Ahsoka and even took on Anakin.

Originally posted by Sybrael
Barriss is no Jedi. She attacked the Temple, nearly killed Ahsoka and even took on Anakin.

What are you saying? Barriss stops at one.

I can’t find the declaration by Filoni about Grievous vis a vis “real Jedi.” (It might be on one of the old ForceCast visits but I can’t access the ones to season one and two.)

I’m a man of my word: I publicly concede that particular point and apologize to Arhael et al. for making a claim without evidence to support it.