He became more powerful after absorbing the souls thingy that I can't remember the name of.
Come on I know this is one sided and shouldn't exist as a thread but its not wise to troll back. The thought of someone becoming more powerful but having weaker durability is just asinine.
I guess SSJ Goku can't take as much as base goku, Kain with Soul Reaver is weaker than balance emblem.
Are you kidding me, BT? Just when I thought you couldn't get any sillier you go and do this. 🙁
Trance makes you more powerful and increases your stats all the way around. Kuja's trance was the most powerful of all thanks to Queen Brahne's soul, meaning his Trance made him the strongest thing in the world of FF IX. To say his durability wouldn't increase is just ridiculous, like most of your baseless theories on anything from FF. 🙂
Not to start shit, but does Kuja have any piercing durability feats? As far as I remember all he has done is tank Bahamut's blast(which is impressive) but that does not make him durable against blades, especially a magically endhanced sword backed up by class 100 strength.
IMO Kuja still wins because his firepower will be too much and grants him the opportunity to handle them from a safe distance.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Not to start shit, but does Kuja have any piercing durability feats? As far as I remember all he has done is tank Bahamut's blast(which is impressive) but that does not make him durable against blades, especially a magically endhanced sword backed up by class 100 strength.IMO Kuja still wins because his firepower will be too much and grants him the opportunity to handle them from a safe distance.
Most intelligent claim. (no sarcasm)
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Bout as poor as the thought of Kuja getting weaker in a new form.
Not sure I remember saying he gets weaker, although so far hes not got any real or major durability feat.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
To say his durability wouldn't increase is just ridiculous, like most of your baseless theories on anything from FF. 🙂
You cannot show me a single durability feat of his new apprently much more durable trance form and ime the one making baseless theories? durlaugh
You're right, BT. The RE Tyrants were more durable in their human forms before the virus, SSJ doesn't increase Goku's durability, Kain is no more durable in Soul Reaver than he is in Blood Omen, and Trance Kuja is no stronger than regular Kuja.
Facts and in game evidence be damned people, BT has spoken and he knows more about games he's never played than the creators do!
You're all a bunch of idiots.
Bahamut destroyed all of those ships in one casual blast, and was going to destroy the entire city of Alexandria had Alexander not stopped him, and he barely made Base Kuja bleed. But Link and Dante have more power than that amirite!? dur
He completely annihilated a planet when he reached Trance Form and did so casually.
He can fly, so no, they cannot reach him, and with one blast he could kill all of them.
He can also teleport.
BT, you actually compared Kain getting the Soul Reaver to Trance Form? The Soul Reaver is a more powerful sword. THAT'S IT. Trance Form makes you more powerful, actually makes the person stronger, and when any character uses it, all stats go up, health and defense included.
In other words, STFU and GTFO.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
You're all a bunch of idiots.Bahamut destroyed all of those ships in one casual blast, and was going to destroy the entire city of Alexandria had Alexander not stopped him, and he barely made Base Kuja bleed. But Link and Dante have more power than that amirite!? dur
He completely annihilated a planet when he reached Trance Form and did so casually.
He can fly, so no, they cannot reach him, and with one blast he could kill all of them.
He can also teleport.
BT, you actually compared Kain getting the Soul Reaver to Trance Form? The Soul Reaver is a more powerful sword. THAT'S IT. Trance Form makes you more powerful, actually makes the person stronger, and when any character uses it, all stats go up, health and defense included.
In other words, STFU and GTFO.
Health and defence? by how much 20%!! or perhaps +50 to all stats? no feats then?
From what I see, Burning Thought isn't claiming anything. He's simply asking for proof of Trance Kuja's durability.
I'll admit, I'm biased towards Link and Dante. I think Dante's cool, and Link is classic Nintendo, therefore made of Win. I also know little to nothing about Kuja, Trance or otherwise (don't worry, I'll check out the wiki so I can learn more about him/her).
I also watched the videos used to demonstrate Kuja's durability. Now, Bahamut is ****ing Badass (Dragons always are, and he's the King of them, right?) and his attacks are clearly very powerful, but they're also concentrated and with a fairly small AoE from what I saw.
Kuja was shown covering his face from the blast radii of Bahamut's attacks, and one explosion covered the camera istefs in the cutscene, but doesn't mean that it was a direct it. Cinematography is notorious for using explosion in front of the camera as a special effect.
Now I'm not debunking Kuja's durability per say, 'cause the heat generated from that many blasts in close range must've been astounding, but it doesn't really seem like a good example. Not to me at least.
Bahamut destroyed all of those ships in one casual blast
No, the cutscene clearly displayed Bahamut destroying each ship individually with one blast to their hulls.
Unless you're talking about another cutscene, in which case I would ask you provide the footage.
Didn't hit Kuja? Did you watch the video? At :31 one blows up right where he is as he's being engulfed by the other blasts.
As for the no AoE comment, the blasts were still rapidly expanding as Kuja flew away, spreading all the way to the shore. That's enough AoE to confirm all of those blasts would have hit Kuja.
Yes, fascist, I did watch the video, and it looked to me like many a great other scene in anime where the target is bombarded by attacks, and one attack happens to hit, not the target, but the area behind the target, exploding and obscuring the camera's vision.
I'm not saying outright that Kuja didn't take a direct blow, because there's no way to tell with somehow getting a different angle of the scene, but from what I saw, I'm not entirely convinced that Kuja did take full on blast.
The whole thing rather stunk of a Worf Barrage anyhow.
Edit:
Okay, I've watched the video again to verify your claim, and yes, Bahamut's attacks do indeed continue to spread, so you have earned that point. After looking at it, however, I'm only more convinced that Kuja didn't take a direct blow. Would he have been engulfed by the spread of the blasts? It's very possible, but splash damage from an attack is almost always weaker than the initial blast itself.
Indeed, splash attack is weaker than initial blast, so you would have to assume at how much the splash damage was which ofc is rubbish so technically we dont have any gauge of how much damage Bahmahts blasts do in general, we have zero gauge of how much actually hit Kuja apart from a few wild Fanboyish guesses and then we have the fact Kuja did not even seem to get hit by a single blast from the video.