We have a clear, direct blast that landed inches away from him and completely engulfed him, plus the fact that all the other hits spread to him. If that's not a direct blast I don't know what is.
Hell, the fact is that we've never seen Link or Dante hit with the kind of force FF IX Bahamut has. If anything we should be discussing the durability of Dante and Link, because I've seen nothing from them that suggests they could survive an attack enough force to glass an entire planet.
I didn't see a planet get glassed, I saw featless airships get owned.
Way to change the subject.. How does fire give him a cut on his forhead that bleeds? Shrapnel from being -near- an explosion can do that, not fire.
Also, we have durability feats out ye olde anus for Link and Gumachi has 'em for Dante.
If I remember correctly, the Dante vs. Link thread was already handling that discussion, fascist.
Sure, the blasts spread. I'm not denying that. I even gave you that point way earlier. But pay attention to the attacks. They start with a neutral explosion, with a (relatively) small AoE. It wasn't until we were watching Kuja fly over that we saw the fire spreading rapidly. Kuja had more than enough room to mount his dragon and take off vertically to avoid getting caught in the major spread.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
He was hit by a direct blast, I've very specifically shown you a blast starting right next to him and bursting outward to engulf him. That was a direct hit.Now please, give me a feat where Link or Dante survive an attack that can destroy a planet.
I have yet to see Kuja destroy a planet in a single attack, or use an attack fast enough to even hit Link or Dante before he gets arrowed then sworded BUT for the sake of argument.
in MM young Link survived beign inside the moon when it was destroyed.
Yes, fascist, I've seen your pictures, and I thank you for going out of your way to present evidence to your point. I can't post images and the such, so you could say I'm at a disadvantage...but I digress.
You did show the burst heading towards him. Inadvertently, you also showed him running from the blast, not standing there to take it head on.
I've taken some time before making this reply to review the video. I've looked over that scene at least fifteen times. I am very sorry, but I still do no see it as a direct hit on Kuja.
Look at it this way: If Kuja was indeed hit directly by a blast, then the point of origin would have been exactly where Kuja and his dragon were. We don't see any explosion occur directly on them.
You cite :32 as the point of contact, where Kuja is hit by at least the blast wave of one of the attacks. Yet at :34, no less than two seconds later, we see Kuja flying above that point, without even a trail of smoke to infer that they were rooted to the spot until after the blast spread.
Something a bit practical, and someone null, I suppose, would also be to note his clothing. Not only is there not a scratch on Kuja, but he has no ash marks or cinders on his attire, which I'm sure aren't nearly as durable as Kuja is.
Most likely that's for the sake of decency, as kids still play the game, but with a wound as high up as Kuja's forehead, shouldn't his hair at least be a little singed?
Edit: Another thing that occured to me. How would flames cut the skin and make it bleed? Fire heats and cauterizes. Blood would not flow freely.
Edit: I've made my point here. My opinion is that Kuja didn't take a direct blast, but was still hurt by Bahamut's attack, albeit very little. I now ask that we drop this particular point of the subject and move on to the real issue: who would win?
We see him engulfed by the blast that originated inches away from him. He was hit by that and the other blasts. The one I pointed out was a direct hit as he was caught in the blast.
Now, as I said before. Kuja wins via battlefield nuking. He has reduced the surface of an entire planet to smoldering rubble in minutes, and Link and Dante can't really do anything if they're just charred remains on a burned out husk.
Seeign as we proved he was NOT hit by fire and the scratch on his head was from SHRAPNEL as a result of the blasts, not contact with them, we can establish his durability is actually quite poor outside his trance form, and we havenoe other feats of him in Trance form so can at best assume it gives him a slight boost, we have no speed feats AT ALL, Dante and Link have this in the bag, he can''t nuke the field with Dante and Link tearing him up, and he won't survive a single hit from Link, where as Dante is quick enoguh to keep him busy all the time. Plus, the only energy attack we've seen Kuja use is very slow, and would take much more than a few minutes to do as much destruction as FC claims, as that cut scne is clearly a montage..
Link and Dante take this because they actually HAVE speed and durability feats. FC is ignoring our arguments in favour of la la land, this thread has been won.
LOL, we won an attempted spite thread.
yeah, this is a spite thread and the ones who have solid facts and debate reasonable, scientific views of Link's feats are on ignore from FC
ScreamPaste, CosmicComet, and myself, Voyeur.
so he knocks out the intelligent competition and makes a spite thread in which the character we have extensive knowledge with will have no good representation.
Not only to mention that Dante himself has stated facts and feats from Gumachi.
fascistcrusader doesn't really debate. He only repeats one phrase and point over and over and views it as true even though people debunk it.
Only Trance Kuja does win.
Fact is, the only thing that may be harming Kuja is Link with his sword, but he is not that fast. Dante is, but he will not harm them.
Bahamut is a city buster, and Kuja took an attack from him, and is ten times more powerful in Trance Form.
Kuja can fly beyond their reach, and using Ultima, WILL kill them both.
I dunno, TGE, IF Link can land a light arrow with Dante's help, it would stun Kuja and put him on the ground. My personal bet is that Link casts Nayru's love first thing then slows time with the ocarina. this makes it possible.
Just for the sake of rediculousness seeign as this was intended to be a spite thread, I have a back up argument.
Link's shield is useless in this fight, the hylian shield, so he uses his sheer retard strenth to twist it into steel wire, uproots a tree and uses the wire to string it like a bow, because the speed of an arrow is dependant onj bow draw, BAM, super sonic light arrow.
^rediculous but theoreticly plausible.
Considering this was meant to be a spite thread by FC, he's done a poor job. <_<
Originally posted by ScreamPaste1. He can't, his aim is not that good. Nayru's Love has not been proven to take Ultima, to say it can is a No-Limits Fallacy. As for slowing time, all that does is slow down the progression of the day dude. It does not make anyone slower.
I dunno, TGE, IF Link can land a light arrow with Dante's help, it would stun Kuja and put him on the ground. My personal bet is that Link casts Nayru's love first thing then slows time with the ocarina. this makes it possible.Just for the sake of rediculousness seeign as this was intended to be a spite thread, I have a back up argument.
Link's shield is useless in this fight, the hylian shield, so he uses his sheer retard strenth to twist it into steel wire, uproots a tree and uses the wire to string it like a bow, because the speed of an arrow is dependant onj bow draw, BAM, super sonic light arrow.
^rediculous but theoreticly plausible.
...Um, no? That is really all I can say about that, no.
Lol, yes =P
and actually it slowed time as well as could be done on the N64 without retooling the entire game engine which was c/ped from OoT, citizens and characters always got to the same place at the same time, if you slowed down time they took mcuh onger to walk place to place, but the game couldn't fit a mechanic to slow down monsters, and if it did the game woudl have been stupidly easy and boring.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYou forget to mention how that song is an Easter Egg that was never canonically taught.
Lol, yes =Pand actually it slowed time as well as could be done on the N64 without retooling the entire game engine which was c/ped from OoT, citizens and characters always got to the same place at the same time, if you slowed down time they took mcuh onger to walk place to place, but the game couldn't fit a mechanic to slow down monsters, and if it did the game woudl have been stupidly easy and boring.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
If you can point out where Link was taught it, I'll concede this point.
It's pretty much another power tied into the song of time which he already knew, and it was pretty much needed to do some things in the game due to really tight timing. Among these are collecting the fairies in the temples and finishing certain specificly timed events.
I don't see how it can be an easter egg, especially seeign as the scarecrow in game tells you how to do it.