Trance Kuja vs Link and Dante

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually, that BLAST was meant to kill kuja, and it was ordered by garland. you saw bahamut's blasts detsroying the entire empire as well as kuja's white dragon army, and alexander took it right in th face and brushed it away with its wings, that is durability. and kuja isnt in the cutscene, he appears immedietly afterwards, in the ruined city, talking about how garland made him lose bahamut and him thinking he was a goner in the face of the attack, but reminding himself later that he infact cudnt die from such force. it is directly after the cutscene in the normal game graphics with in game text, but there is naturally no video for it on youtube as only the cutscenes are posted.

yes you can question any claim, but just like a child who asks questions, to which the source material provides answers as long as he/she tried to understand it with intelligence, the teacher isnt obliged to tell the child the exact phrasing of the answer just like i am not obliged to answer you every query on account of you being lazy or using constant denial as a debating tactic. point being, i expect you to work it out for yourself after given the source material.

No I saw bahumahts blast blow up a few buildings, and a couple of airships in another video, both things have unknown durability, Dante with one swing of Yamato from a distance sliced a much larger monument in two.

Well ime sorry, your material is useless, your blowing out hot air and idolising yourself doesnt give you any extra credability, you can either go and actually outline your argument or you can crawl back down your pit of idolising yourself.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No I saw bahumahts blast blow up a few buildings, and a couple of airships in another video, both things have unknown durability, Dante with one swing of Yamato from a distance sliced a much larger monument in two.

Well ime sorry, your material is useless, your blowing out hot air and idolising yourself doesnt give you any extra credability, you can either go and actually outline your argument or you can crawl back down your pit of idolising yourself.

you mean you missed the part where bahamut shoots a fireball towards alexanger and alexander covers with its wings and take a direct hit, being noticeably unfazed afterward? do you have eyesight problems, because it was clear as day from where i stand. their durability is known because surviving an attack which was observably destroying entire sections of the empire in the same video is direct evidence for what it can take without damage. the monument dante sliced wasnt bigger, this was a castle compromising nealry half the land mass of the empire and the blast from invincible totalled nearly the entire empire. im sorry if you can not see that and remain unconvinced.

if you find my material useless than i cant really help you. its your oppinion, just know that it does not represent fact. im not sure how direct videos count as hot air{i wonder what counts as evidence in your eyes} or how i can state the argument any more clearly, but again, if you dont see it, then its your point of view. would you mind pointing out one word of praise{i.e. describing a praise worthy quality in me} in my last post. id prefer u quote me if you dont mind.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
you mean you missed the part where bahamut shoots a fireball towards alexanger and alexander covers with its wings and take a direct hit, being noticeably unfazed afterward? do you have eyesight problems, because it was clear as day from where i stand. their durability is known because surviving an attack which was observably destroying entire sections of the empire in the same video is direct evidence for what it can take without damage. the monument dante sliced wasnt bigger, this was a castle compromising nealry half the land mass of the empire and the blast from invincible totalled nearly the entire empire. im sorry if you can not see that and remain unconvinced.

if you find my material useless than i cant really help you. its your oppinion, just know that it does not represent fact. im not sure how direct videos count as hot air{i wonder what counts as evidence in your eyes} or how i can state the argument any more clearly, but again, if you dont see it, then its your point of view. would you mind pointing out one word of praise{i.e. describing a praise worthy quality in me} in my last post. id prefer u quote me if you dont mind.

yeh I saw that, thats not a durability feat since ive yet to see an actual power feat from Bahhumaht.

Theres no power feat from Bahmaht, until you show me Bahmaht doing an impressive power feat, Alexandas durability is also unkown.

Your idolising yourself here:

Originally posted by leonheartmm

like a child who asks questions, to which the source material provides answers as long as he/she tried to understand it with intelligence, the teacher isnt obliged to tell the child the exact phrasing of the answer

Your nothing but the opposition in this debate, not a teacher, your not here to teach and nobody is here to learn, ime here for you to prove your evidence, tossing out some random videos without outlining what characters are which, without outlining the exact times like every other worthwhile debator does in this forum with exact timing duration to show your points is not showing evidence.

Your side of the debate requires the follwing

-Gaugable power of Bahumaht to outline the durability of Alexandra
-Kuja actually being seen to take the blast, the shot destroyed the empire true but thats an AOE power, once again lets suggest i for some reason choose to belive Kuja was down in that blast without evidence, theres still no evidence he took much of that power at all and its mostly AOE destroying buildings, it looks to me like Alexanda took the full power of the weapon.

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Theres no power feat from Bahmaht, until you show me Bahmaht doing an impressive power feat, Alexandas durability is also unkown.

Your idolising yourself here:

i consider destroying chunks of an empire and the white dragon army "power feats". you obviously do not, and i obviously cant change your oppinion. alexander survived the onslaught of the white dragon army and also has no consequence on the topic under discussion "kuja's durability"

if you consider "teachers" to be ideals then yes, im idolising myself. i personally do not , so in my eyes, no, i am not idolising myself.

Your nothing but the opposition in this debate, not a teacher, your not here to teach

and nobody is here to learn,

ime here for you to prove your evidence, tossing out some random videos without outlining what characters are which, without outlining the exact times like every other worthwhile debator does in this forum with exact timing duration to show your points is not showing evidence.
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i expect you to work out the concept of seconds and minutes by yourself, maybe i expect too much but that is still my decision 🙂 . your definition of worthwhile debater is obviously not my definition of worthwhole debater bt 🙂 . as for characters, i mentioned their names, the dragon is bahamut, the winged castle is alexander and the eye in the sky is invincible.

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Your side of the debate requires the follwing

-Gaugable power of Bahumaht to outline the durability of Alexandra
-Kuja actually being seen to take the blast, the shot destroyed the empire true but thats an AOE power, once again lets suggest i for some reason choose to belive Kuja was down in that blast without evidence, theres still no evidence he took much of that power at all and its mostly AOE destroying buildings, it looks to me like Alexanda took the full power of the weapon.

i consider destroying chunks of an observable empire and the white dragon army as GUAGABLE power. ofcourse i cant convince you 🙂

the shot destroyed the entire empire, that is enough evidence for me, although for reasons unknown, not for you.

and you are stating your oppinion which i consider false. 😛

Do you really? chunks of an empire? he blew up a couple of buildings in the videos, thats not "chunks of an empire" to me, thats like saying Kain killed endless legions of Sarafan in Legacy of Kain defiance.....

Ive not seen the white dragon army being destroyed in any ofyour videos, nor do i see their durability feats either.

As i said to Fascisttrollsader, ime going to wait until a better debator bothers to outline the evidence and stop blowing hot air, ime not interested in your infantile bantering, I want you to debate, and you dont seem to be interested in doing so.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Do you really? chunks of an empire? he blew up a couple of buildings in the videos, thats not "chunks of an empire" to me, thats like saying Kain killed endless legions of Sarafan in Legacy of Kain defiance.....

Ive not seen the white dragon army being destroyed in any ofyour videos, nor do i see their durability feats either.

As i said to Fascisttrollsader, ime going to wait until a better debator bothers to outline the evidence and stop blowing hot air, ime not interested in your infantile bantering, I want you to debate, and you dont seem to be interested in doing so.

the empire is made of buildings, so it would make sense that chuks of the empire have buildings in them. "couple" is a vague quantative reference. so in my oppinion it is "chunks" of an empire and i do not beleive it is anything of the sort, ofcourse you have another oppinion. 🙂

and i never claimed it was, it is in other videos available to any1 who is interested which i havent posted yet based on your ignorance of the already posted videos from where i stand{you will naturally differ}

but in my oppinion i have outlined the evidence plenty well, if you cant see that then i can not help you. people who arent interested usually stop replying, i suggest you take your own advice on that. and i consider you a challenged student, so i think your image of me being "infantile" is as false as is your claim of me not debating, i think it is you who has a probem as do all your non arguments uptil now. ofcourse................that is my oppinon 🙂 .

Thing is most of my views are not opinions, their facts, its fact that your not debating, its fact your trolling and its fact your being infantile by constantly repeating the same hot air youve spouted from the beginning. Your reported again for trolling, if your debating or adding anything to this thread and at the same time, your admitting it, your trolling, thers nothing else for it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thing is most of my views are not opinions, their facts, its fact that your not debating, its fact your trolling and its fact your being infantile by constantly repeating the same hot air youve spouted from the beginning. Your reported again for trolling, if your debating or adding anything to this thread and at the same time, your admitting it, your trolling, thers nothing else for it.

but i think you are calling your oppinions facts with no evidence for that assumption. i think your point of view is inherently warped. i also think you do not understand the meaning of the word "fact". i also think you are prjecting again. 🙂

Thread closed due to people being unable to debate civilly.

Also, BT and leon, both of you can consider yourselves warned. You are both trolling, as well as having run three threads into the ground.