The thing about the mastersword is that it repels evil energies, not an evil person that punch the holder, cause in what way is a punch evil, its mean but not evil.
The sword ganon uses in his swordbattle against link in Twilight Princess(he uses two really giant swords in OoT that is impossible to block lol cause they hit like all over link XD) is a good sword, It is the sword the sages used trying to execute ganon. A bit intresting. So the blade of evils bane with the power to repel evil cant repel indirect evil, like say if an evil energy throws a jar at him or an evil energy moves an arm into an punch, but it does repel magic such as ganons shiny lightning balls(which the mirror sheild cant repel btw) and the aura of twilight, this is why ganon cant move posses link or actually use magic against him at all, even though he is an immortal warlock with the triforce of power. But I ask you, why would link need to go find the master sword if it was useless?
Btw I would want some proof from you that strengthens your statements, yes sephiroth is strong I already knew that, he is thought to be the strongest in the whole FF universe, but link is strong aswell, equally strong or maybe stronger than the holder of the triforce of power(when not in beast form), the fact that you say sephiroth is easily stronger than link has lacks basis, link have for example thrown(yes THROWN) giant black granite blocks without that much effort. when it comes to counting on the force that is needed to make that effect to the ground I nee d to know how deap the hole was its radius, what the materials resistance was and make a two page equation, so i think I skip that, XD, btw iron is pretty soft and concrete somewhat porous, the boons in your body can stand more.
You say that sephiroth is faster, and I agree maybe running speed but I dunno about actual combat, links combat style is pretty much defend and reactions. Just look at all the techniques he learns in TP,
Ending blow, if link has knocked the opponent over he can end him by bury his sword into him.
Sheild Attack, Link uses his sheild to knock the opponent dizzy
Back slice, link rolls up behind the opponent and makes a jump strike
Helm splitter, link makes a leap over the head of the opponent and makes a somersault in which he strikes the opponents head.
Mortal draw, link basically draws his sheathed sword and attacks in the same motion making an instakill if the attack connects, the attack is based on being calm and patient and in the correct moment press the A button when the opponent is in range and vulnerable.
Jump strike, okay this technique si actually very offensive, link charges his sword and jumps when he lands he creates a shockwave that kills surrounding enemies.
Great spin, like links spin attack but with like the double radius and that instakills most enemies(I only think bosses and darknuts are the only ones that can survive a hit from this). Best to use when under a lot of pressure cause it will kill everything around you.
link is a deadserious guy, never laugh, never looses his temper, always a calm monster killing machine, he will not stop his attacking for nothing, he will continue to attack until he is sure he has killed his opponent.
He is also VERY intelligent and can solve any puzzle problem or anything with whatever that is around, he is a mcguiver more or less, which means he will defend himself until he finds a way to exploit sephiroths movement and use that to kill the guy.(this is how you kill the bosses the first time anyway)
to sum up links sword DOES repel evil, thats the purpose of it, link is strong as hell as well so saying that dante is stronger is not that easy as you want to say, I dont think ever has used his full strength( I dunno about sephiroth though, what is the heaviest he ever has lifted). When it comes to speed link is a defend and react kind of swordsman while I think sephiroth is an attack and pressure type, its two diffrent styles but I dont think you can tell which of them is the better swordsman.
EDIT: can the jenova cells heal themself, I mean for example if just one cell gets broken, cause if what you say about the Jenova cells atracting to each other would not be of any help if link boils sephiroth or burns him, this destroys the cells it doesnt divide them, or maybe freezes sephiroth cause if you freeze the cells the ice crystals(which are sharp and pointy) pop the cells like a needle pops a ballon.
The lifestream isn't an energy, it contains energy, just like a fist contains energy. But its a physical substance, just as Sephiroth sword is.
But again, you still have not provided real proof that he's invulnerable to anything evil. And btw, evil energies were still able to harm Link in OoT, he was just able to deflecet it, that's all.
And none of Links sword techniques would even work against Sephiroth, Link really stands no chance if he tried to fight Sephiroth melee.
Yes, they regenerate. I've posted videos of Sephiroth regenerating full forms from small Jenova bodyparts. Throughout the story, pieces of Jenova bodyparts like arms, legs, took full forms of Sephiroth.
All that's either flawed or moot. Ganon formed that energy and hurled it at Link, and it exploded. This isn't like TK which has to actually touch Link to affect him.
One light arrow, Terry, guess at the weight of the head of an arrow, I want to math it's velocity.
Also, how could Link lose up close? Getting close to Link would be the worst thing Seph could do. His sword can't even hurt Link and Link's would be utter anathema to Sephiroth, if it can shutdown the triforce of power, and render Ganondorf inert, it can do just as much to Sephiroth.
Because Link has no speed feats, that's why. Link hasn't shown any movement speed capable of hitting Sephiroth. The only thing Link has going is his imaginary feats you're making up for him.
But the Link from the games, he has nothing that puts him up to par with Sephiroth, nothing.
And that energy could still harm Link, so i don't understand why you're making up some BS that he's invulnerable to it. Link was never shown to be invulnerable to TK, that again, is something you made up.
Ganon NEVER even attempted at TK'ing Link, if you actually showed evidence at Ganon TK'ing Link, then failing - then THAT would be proof. However, the fact that Ganon never even tried does not automatically mean Link is immune.
NL = Link dead.
Lol, negative. If anyone's reaching, it's been you for the last 30 pages or so.
Your argument is so flawed it's rediculous. Being protected from radiation doesn't stop a nuke from killing you when it explodes.
NL=lolmootuselesshasneverkilledapowerfulcharacter.
Sephiroth's Speed < speed of anything Link throws at him, including apples, children, peppers, snow balls, shoes, and arrow heads.
Teleportation=escape, nothign more.
gesture=makes Sephiroth look foolish infront of Link, who kills him with an action as simple as a child throwing a snowball.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Wow, now you're really picking at straws.. Ganons energies arent evil because they exploded? HAHANL > arrow.
Sephiroths speed > Link.
Teleportation > Link.
Gesture = Link dead.Good game indeed.
The only thing I have to add is to teleportation
Teleportation of Seph's=Link's Death
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol, negative. If anyone's reaching, it's been you for the last 30 pages or so.Your argument is so flawed it's rediculous. Being protected from radiation doesn't stop a nuke from killing you when it explodes.
NL=lolmootuselesshasneverkilledapowerfulcharacter.
Sephiroth's Speed < speed of anything Link throws at him, including apples, children, peppers, snow balls, shoes, and arrow heads.
Teleportation=escape, nothign more.
gesture=makes Sephiroth look foolish infront of Link, who kills him with an action as simple as a child throwing a snowball.
No, your lack of evidence and fanboy theories clearly means you're reaching. Right here is a good example, "Linkz is teh immune to All ev1l powa!!", "Ganonz 0nly workz b3cauSe of teh Expl0zions!!!"
Lolz at Link being a "powerfulcharacter", Link is hardly anymore superior then a regular human just with a ton of accessories to amp him up.
Sephiroths speed > instantaneous, you fail to understand that instant > non instant.
Teleportation = Link can't do squat against it.
Seriously, Sephiroth would just stand, and let him throw whatever he wants at him, regenerate, then destroy Link.
LOL! I'm reaching, says the guy using no limit fallacies. Give me the speed of the fastest ting sephiroth ever dodged?
Link>Sephiroth. You're clearly theo ne with a lack of knowledge, making such ignorant statements.
Immune to radiation=/=explosions fuelled by it. Bad logic is bad.
Teleportation=Escape, nothing more, what could Seph do with it? Nothing? =] Exactly, except run away from his superior.
Stand and let Link throw = sephiroth dies a horrible light fuelled death.
first off:
stop contradicting and at least give a good why some thing does and dont hit(saying sephiroth is too fast is not a good one, its like me saying: link is too smart), I actually want a good debate. at the moment all I see you do is contradicting sorry if I offended you but really that is what you do.
NL= negative lifestream
which is something people said earlier in the debate was not allowed. cause if it was allowed link could go:
triforce= seph never existed lol
link has alot of speed feats, he just dont move that much, but he is very acrobatic and agile and can somersault and sidestep without any effort, btw the hidden skills was just there to show you the basic idea of links fighting style. I think it is funny how you just contradicts with no proof that non of the techinques would work(please can I call him names XD). so stop contradicting and at least give a good why(saying sephiroth is too fast is not a good one, its like me saying: link is too smart), I actually want a good debate
Link from the games? thats the only link that exist, manga link is based on the games, same plot same items, the cartoon WEMP link is the worst link ever.
Negative lifestream cant hurt link sorry it IS evil if I understood it correct and evil matter cant hurt link, ganon is a gerudo, so his flesh and bones is not made of evil, its made of gerudo. ganon uses his own muscular strength and maybe the triforce of power(which is not evil) to punch link and I think I already has said that evil energy cant DIRECTLY hurt link, but indirectly, this is why TK dont work but seph could TK his sword to hit link(if not the sword is evil, then he is in big trouble)
And I say this again, link is DEFENSIVE and bases his combatstyle on REACTIONS, he is PATIENT and ENDURANT and has HIGH DURABILITY.
I even posted a vid of a curse breaked by the master sword that is physical but still energy btw mass is energy(seen this formula E=mc^2 it basically means that Energy is equal to the mass times the square ligth of speed, funny isnt it) so saying physical=/= energy is a total lie actually, but as I said ganon dont need evil energy for himself to punch or swing his sword. there is one seen in TP were ganon becomes twilight particles and goes rigth through link and ends up behind him. Ill see if I can find this, also I think that ganon tries to cast some spell at link that only affects navi in OoT, it was a while since I played the game but i remember something like it.
btw shin we need the speed an arrow is traveling at, btw links arrows dont arc in the zelda games XD that just makes it funny, cause that means they are shooten with infinite amount of energy/force/power/whatever XD
I repost what I think is the most important in this debate😖top contradicting and at least give a good why some thing does and dont hit(saying sephiroth is too fast is not a good one, its like me saying: link is too smart), I actually want a good debate.
EDIT:lol shin throw everything but the kitchen sink XD, btw shin is right about explosions not being evil, an explosion is an indirect evil attack and can therefor hurt link
lol, yeah, Lootic's correct, actually, Ganon does attempt to use dark magic on Link and fails in OoT.
Go read the Link respect thread, Terry, I remember putting it in there.. Anyway. NL is moot, even if Seph has it, it doesn't hurt Link, it has nothing to suggest it can, this was discussed in the other thread.
BTW, Lootic, I mathed the speed Link could throw a 100lb arrowhead. 😆 I sent it in a PM to Voyuer cause it's too lulz to post, Seph = screwed.
Too lulz to post... YET. 🥷
Originally posted by Gumachi
This guy is worser than, BT.
lootic, Link has no feats of being smarter then Sephiroth, thats baseless claims. Sephiroth has feats of being many many folds superior then Link, in terms of movement, and instant teleportation. So therefore, by feats and abilities I can say Sephiroth is far faster then Link.
Where have I been "contradicting"? Perhaps you should find another word from the english dictionary to place there.
"Made out of evil" there's nothing that is "made out of evil" the NL isn't "made out of evil". That's probably something that only exists in the Zelda universe.
Link has never fought anyone as fast as Sephiroth. So it doesn't matter how "defensive" he is, if he doesnt have feats to backup his reaction time, skill, or speed, then in terms of melee combat, Sephiroth > Link.
As it's shown, Ganons energy attacks were still able to harm Link, and Ganon is the evil of LoZ. So therefore it contradicts your theory once again. As i've said before Ingame Evidence > fan theory.
Never has it shown an evil energy fire at Link and it not harming Link at all. Never has it shown Ganon attempting at TK, then TK not working. If any of that was shown, THEN it would be some evidence.
So sorry, but NL works on Link. teleportation means Sephiroth can move out of Links sight, even if Link has some way of harming him. Sephiroth gone, Link gets killed by NL. Game over.