Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Negative, it's more like "several" dodgeballs because of how much larger they are, versus a high powered sniper bullet, we're talking multiple times the speed of sound. Zack would not stand a chance against a railgun slug, for instance.also, Zack was moving in such a way as to put them in each other's line of fire, so moving quicker would be wiser, and yet there were very narrow misses on the way there.
And such occurs in the 'official' [non canon though] manga. Fairies = powerful magical beings = canon though. They're all through the Zelda series for a reason.
the difference between 33 and 50 is the same as the difference between 3300 and 3317, not 5000 k/h.
4500 k/h would tag Seph or Zack without recourse. Let alone 5000k/h.
Actually, for teh lulz.. Here, tell me, how fast do YOU think somethign would have to move for Seph to be unabler to avoid it?
You fail to understand the analogy here.
We're comparing Human things, to Superhuman things.
a regular human can dodge a dodgeball effortlessly with the dodgeball travelling 33km/h. Then you multiply the speed by 1.5x that "effort" becomes alot harder, but the regular human is still capable of dodging it. Now what's harder, a regular human dodging that 50km/h or that regular human dodging a hundred dodgeballs per second rapidfire coming in every single direction? The all direction is much harder.
Same thing with SUPERHUMAN, his reflex's are multiplied, his senses, his speed, his everything are multiplied by countless folds. He dodges 3300 km/h with that SAME effort the regular human dodged the dodgballs, only it's 3300km/h. You understand the concept? He puts in the same effort in dodging the bullets as the regular human dodges the dodgeballs. And the superhuman is fast enough to dodge 3300km/h rapid fire hundred per second all directions with little effort as well. If he is fast enough, and can react fast enough to dodge thousands of bullets hailing from all directions at 3300km/h, he sure as hell can dodge a single bullet going 1.5x the speed of one of those bullets he dodged.
For Sephiroth, who knows. Because we've never seen him put any effort into doing anything. Like i said previously, you need to see him struggle at a certain level before you can make a proper prediction.
does it make people sick though? yes so with regular life stream yes it will harm link but with geostimga causing life stream no it will not harm Link because it makes people sick
As far as I can tell from the discussion in the other thread, NL's barely hurt anyone ever, and never killed any powerful character. So, it's moot, even without any proection it can't hurt Link.
The NL will destroy Link.
It took you til 4 to come up with that?
Sephiroth's body is entirely featless, NL is squat.
Also, your logic on the bullet dodging is, again, flawed. Sephiroth seems to fail miserably at dodging omnislash, =P It's you who fails to understand that being superhuman does not make the speed of sound entirely negligable to them. Zack was obviously doing his best to dodge bullets, which at an unconfirmed best were moving at 3300. Granted, there were alot of bullets but they obviously pushed him to the limit of his speed as he narrowly avoided them. [And, I'll add, this is freaking anime, less restrictive medium ftw.] Thus, a single bullet moving a great deal faster would be far more effective than a bunch that are within his reaction time.
IE, 4000 is outside his reaction time, and it McTags the hell out of him. 5000 km/h? That'd tag Seph, easy.
But still, give me your own personal best guess, and make it as high as you like.
No, unlike some people, I dont sit on these forums waiting for replies, i have other things to do.
NL isn't "squat" i've given you feats, you're just being in denial now.
Omnislash =/= Once he activates it, Sephiroth is frozen, time is slowed. And its finished in the blink of an eye.
Zack wasn't "doing his best". He didn't show any signs of effort at all, and made a "heh" noise like he was just fooling around, same thing with the first video he was just goofing off.
In terms of difficulty
Dodging hundred bullets per second from every single direction at 3300km/h >> dodging a single bullet at 5000km/h.
Lol, I don't sit on here, teh email thinger tells me when you reply =P And tbh, arguing on the internet keeps me occupied when I have nothing better to do at night. We'll say I don't sleep often.
Denial of what? No offense but I'm far from convinced the NL can do anything at all to Link with or without protection.
Zack was clearly doing his best, and on one occasion only avoided getting shot because of the sword on his back. Luck.
Evidence of this omnislash time stop? I've never seen it.
And no, if I were Zack I'd gladly take the pile of bullets within my reaction time than the one that wasn't, which would ding me right between the eyes, most likely.
You still haven't taken an optimistic guess for Sephiroth.
lol I can save balls that are traveling in like 100km/h that is shooten like 6m away from with my reactions only. that gives me about 0.216 s to react and move. If the person was 60 m away I would probably be able to dodge a bullet traveling at 1000km/h if I could see it since that also gives me 0.216 seconds to react and move. This fact is taken from the sport(team handboll a kind of mixture of basket and football) Im goalkeeper in and MY OWN experience of my OWN SKILLS, lol and Im far from the best in the world.
so I think its more like superhuman eyes than anything you need to dodge a bullet, what I dont understand is that if there is thousands of bullets why would they only make 4 graphical?
Originally posted by lootic
lol I can save balls that are traveling in like 100km/h that is shooten like 6m away from with my reactions only. that gives me about 0.216 s to react and move. If the person was 60 m away I would probably be able to dodge a bullet traveling at 1000km/h if I could see it since that also gives me 0.216 seconds to react and move. This fact is taken from the sport(team handboll a kind of mixture of basket and football) Im goalkeeper in and MY OWN experience of my OWN SKILLS, lol and Im far from the best in the world.so I think its more like superhuman eyes than anything you need to dodge a bullet, what I dont understand is that if there is thousands of bullets why would they only make 4 graphical?
Wait a sec.
Are you telling us all that you can dodge bullets because your good at handball?
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I don't exactly know how powerful Link but is he powerful enough to slice something like a Skyscraper in half?Can Link even survive if he gets hit by Sephiroth's meteor attack?
I posted a summarize of the links feats discussed this far(could have missed something) on the previous page, go ahead take a look, or if you want I could just repost it.
And yes as shin said the me playing handball was a comparison to show that it shouldnt be that hard to dodge a bullet if you could see it(needs eyes with better fram rate and more pixels XD). also lol at someone throwing a dodgeball at 30km/h that ball barely has barely speed to keep a direction.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I don't exactly know how powerful Link but is he powerful enough to slice something like a Skyscraper in half?Can Link even survive if he gets hit by Sephiroth's meteor attack?
He is strong enough to lift a skyscraper but couldn't cut it in half.
Even though it takes a mounth, not, Link can't stop it, he would die right away.
Originally posted by Ultimate WilCompared to lifting one, cutting one would be incredibly easy.
He is strong enough to lift a skyscraper but couldn't cut it in half.Even though it takes a mounth, not, Link can't stop it, he would die right away.
And Majora pulled down the moon in three days and Link still kicked his ass, as a child who hadn't slept for three days, no less. Meteor=totally useless in this fight.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Compared to lifting one, cutting one would be incredibly easy.And Majora pulled down the [b]moon
in three days and Link still kicked his ass, as a child who hadn't slept for three days, no less. Meteor=totally useless in this fight. [/B]
He needs the ability to cut through it completely, which is an ability he still doesn't have.
The length DOESN'T MATTER. Majora<<<<<Sephiroth, and a meteor>>>>>moon, what do you think created the moon. A fully powered meteor landing on Link, the end. If you keep denying it, they you are a fanboy, heck, you already are one.
Originally posted by Ultimate WilThe irony here is incredible.
He needs the ability to [b]cut through it completely, which is an ability he still doesn't have.The length DOESN'T MATTER. Majora<<<<<Sephiroth, and a meteor>>>>>moon, what do you think created the moon. A fully powered meteor landing on Link, the end. If you keep denying it, they you are a fanboy, heck, you already are one. [/B]
for one, the moon > meteor. The moon is infact, much larger than anything that could've sheered it from the earth. Pulling it down in three days>summoning a meteor, period.
And Link has that ability in spades, hell, if you can lift something as heavy as Link can you can probably chop a sky scraper in half with your bare hands relatively easily.
Meteor doesn't matter because it could never even get to Link before he killed Sephiroth, and even so, Link tanked the moon, well played, sir.
This thread is now at the point where Link could piss on a snowball and throw it at Sephiroth to win, yet you're calling me a fanboy while your bias clouds your logic.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol, I don't sit on here, teh email thinger tells me when you reply =P And tbh, arguing on the internet keeps me occupied when I have nothing better to do at night. We'll say I don't sleep often.Denial of what? No offense but I'm far from convinced the NL can do anything at all to Link with or without protection.
Zack was clearly doing his best, and on one occasion only avoided getting shot because of the sword on his back. Luck.
Evidence of this omnislash time stop? I've never seen it.
And no, if I were Zack I'd gladly take the pile of bullets within my reaction time than the one that wasn't, which would ding me right between the eyes, most likely.
You still haven't taken an optimistic guess for Sephiroth.
That's because you're on some BS thinking Link is invulnerable. Link gets harmed by FAAAAAAR less, you can't even deny that, any person who has played the LoZ knows that.
No, Zack dodged it with minimal effort, I'm not seeing anywhere in the scene where it even suggests he's struggling at all, care to give me the time frame? Apparently you're even having trouble watching the video properly, sword on his back? He doesnt have a sword on his back lol.
Omnislash did slow down time, it was stated to be instant and over in the blink of an eye, and if you watch the video carefully, when Sephiroth is frozen, his hair stops flowing, and so does his clothes, his hair doesnt even go down.
Because there's no way to make a guess.
Originally posted by Terryc250
That's because you're on some BS thinking Link is invulnerable. Link gets harmed by FAAAAAAR less, you can't even deny that, any person who has played the LoZ knows that.
Then you could try get shot out of a cannon with the speed of sound to heights of 5000 m where there is almost no oxygen and kill monsters as if nothing happened. Anyone that has played loz knows that link can survive running on lava, get squashed by stones get hit by something as big as a smaller house and uses all the power of the triforce of power and have like 19/20 of his full vital health left.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Omnislash did slow down time, it was stated to be instant and over in the blink of an eye, and if you watch the video carefully, when Sephiroth is frozen, his hair stops flowing, and so does his clothes, his hair doesnt even go down.Because there's no way to make a guess.
cool effect too bad the zelda games has so little cliche anime effects. [insert more sarcasm here]
Originally posted by Terryc250
No, Zack dodged it with minimal effort, I'm not seeing anywhere in the scene where it even suggests he's struggling at all, care to give me the time frame? Apparently you're even having trouble watching the video properly, sword on his back? He doesnt have a sword on his back lol.
yup zack really have good eyes, lol.
I watched the entire video, when he was running with cloud, the sword on his back saved his ass.
And it's really easy to guess, hell, I've been more than generous so far.
@Gumachi; this attitude is part of the problem, you don't care what Link can do, so he just loses because you like Seph better? Lol. Link wins this with ease.