Originally posted by ScreamPasteMy opinion? Sugarcakes, I'm speaking fact, you will never find an explosion that looks remotely similar to that.
Your opinion on it's moot =P And the feat is too, because if Ganon can't one shot Link, Seph's class ten ass can't even break his skin. 💃
I don't give a shit who wins the thread.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneruLink's already won it, I can PM you the numbers if you like.
My opinion? Sugarcakes, I'm speaking, fact, you will never find an explosion that looks remotely similar to that.I don't give a shit who wins the thread.
And not necessarily, Candycane. Part of it was clearly for happy-ending effect but the physics stand.
Originally posted by ScreamPastePM me what?
Link's already won it, I can PM you the numbers if you like.And not necessarily, Candycane. Part of it was clearly for happy-ending effect but the physics stand.
I don't give a shit what random mathematical equation you are using to justify your own ignorant fanboyism and stupidity, that was NOT an explosion.
Happy-ending effect? Fvcking Super Mario Galaxies had a galaxy being wiped out on-screen, Starfox 64 featured a planet being destroyed at the end, if Nintendo intended that to be an explosion, it would have been a fvcking explosion.
Not those numbers, and I'm not calling it an explosion anyway, I used the word "destroyed".
No way in hell would I bother mathing the destruction of a vacuum in a shell, the fact that Link was in a seperate dimension innitially and had to appear inside the moonspontaneously when that dimension ended already puts it in the realm of quantum mechanics. **** that! But yeah, the moon = destroyed, and Link = not. Link = inside teh moon while this occured. I don't care if the moon was microwaved, exploded, imploded, [and I can explain how each of these works on a basic level.-, disintegrated, or jizzed itself to death. Link was in the same area, subject to the same level of destruction, and he was fine.
Regardless, it doesn't Matter, Link doesn't even need that feat for this thread.
And my random mathematical equation is actually based very firmly in canon, on Link's strength and the energy he is able to produce within his body. Essentially, if you want I can show you in physics why this is a spite thread against Sephiroth. My fanboyism and stupidity are open to debate, my numbers are not! =] In closing. <3
Originally posted by ScreamPasteDestroyed is a very vague term. But based on what we saw, the disappearance of the moon never applied any force to Link's being, if you understand my meaning.
Not those numbers, and I'm not calling it an explosion anyway, I used the word "destroyed".No way in hell would I bother mathing the destruction of a vacuum in a shell, the fact that Link was in a seperate dimension innitially and had to appear inside the moonspontaneously when that dimension ended already puts it in the realm of quantum mechanics. **** that!
And my random mathematical equation is actually based very firmly in canon, on Link's strength and the energy he is able to produce within his body. Essentially, if you want I can show you in physics why this is a spite thread against Sephiroth. My fanboyism and stupidity are open to debate, my numbers are not! =] In closing. <3
Or he was just warped outside of the moon, considering we never see him leave it, instantly he is in the fields.
Link in Majora's Mask is nowhere as physically strong as in OoT. Show me your math.
Are you saying Links skin is able to withstand a sword? That is just rediculous!
Just because his arms can hold massive amounts of wieght, does NOT mean that his skin can withstand a puncture from a sharp point, just that his muscles are able to lift heavy things! Get someone who can lift 50 kilograms, then get a dagger, stab them with the dagger. do they bleed? Yes, they do. Strength means nothing against a knife point, only skill.
So, lets say Link did throw something at Sephiroth, he bends down to pick it up, Sephiroth is now behind Link with a sword through Links head.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Are you saying Links skin is able to withstand a sword? That is just rediculous!Just because his arms can hold massive amounts of wieght, does NOT mean that his skin can withstand a puncture from a sharp point, just that his muscles are able to lift heavy things! Get someone who can lift 50 kilograms, then get a dagger, stab them with the dagger. do they bleed? Yes, they do. Strength means nothing against a knife point, only skill.
So, lets say Link did throw something at Sephiroth, he bends down to pick it up, Sephiroth is now behind Link with a sword through Links head.
that wasn't the argument, but even so, Link is infact totally impervious to Seph's sword.. lol. Let me explain, all trauma, blunt, pointed, or otherwise, is a function of force over an area, pounds per square inch of force, we'll say. Now for every action, there is an equal reaction, for Link to throw a 1000-1300 ton chunk of granite, it pressed back againast his body just as hard. And he sent it a long distance in a single burst of strength. That would amplify the force pushing back on him exponentially. Even distributed over his entire body [and it wasn't, the force would be focused on his hands, arms, and shoulders.] that is FAR more force per inch of flesh than Seph could ever exert on Link with his sword. Besides, Ganon is even stronger than Link, and Link tanked hits from Ganon which could disintegrate stone. So, let's say Link did throw something at Sephiroth, he waits to see where Seph is, maybe he gets close and tries to stab Link. [lol.. silly kid] Then Link throws whatever he has in his hand so unbelievably hard it obliterates Seph's entire being.
So.. Yes, Link's skin is able to withstand a sword, and much, much worse..
No no no no, I thought it was the gauntlets that gave him god-like strength? It doesn't give him skin to resist the force, the gauntlets themselves just allow him to lift it.
If a person can lift 50 kilograms, and they can withstand the force of that then using your logic if someone comes along with a combat dagger and applies 2 kilograms of force to thier neck it wouldn't puncture it which is incorrect.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
LOLFALSE! You clearly can't read what he types. He was calling your claim that Sephiroth is anywhere close to as strogn as Link a baseless claim.
Apparently YOU cannot read:
Originally posted by lootic
anyway I can call for a tie at this one
You guys are the one going with real life physics for feats, so i ask you guys how much force is required to bash 2 things together in the air creating the concrete/iron on the ground to crator in. Obviously the power/force required to do that is almost impossible to do, and more then likely more power is required then lifting up that big stone.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I've been working with the fact they're one in the same. If Terry gets multiple games and two movies, I get two freakin games. I'll PM you the numbers for Link's strength out put because I don't want to post them in this thread yet. they're too good! 🥷
I get the games/movies because unlike Link, these are Sephiroths actual abilities. While Links abilities rely on accessories/items, in which he doesn't always have.
@K1ll3r - It's funny because it's not even Links muscles that are doing the lifting, it's the fictional "Golden Gauntlets" item that allowed him to lift that much.
lootic, Link has no feats of being smarter then Sephiroth, thats baseless claims.
exactly my point. this is what your sephiroth being stronger than link statement is, cause there is no proof of sphiroth being stronger than link.
^No you're the one who didn't read his entire post. English is his second language so I guess his sarcasm slips by you. There's no evidence whatsoever of Seph beign close to as strong as Link. =]
I asked for a vid, BTW. You never supplied it. And no, you get movies because it's a cop out and a less restricted medium.
@Killer, you don't understand. If you can lift fifty KG, it's spread over your entire body, probably at like 0.001 KG per inch, but Link can lift 1 000 000 KG. which spread over his entire body is more like.. tons and tons per inch? And he didn't just lift it, he threw it a great distance. The gautnlets might increase his strength but it's still impossible to lift it unless your body is capable of withstanding that much force, and Link's body clearly is.
so in the case of Link, it takes alot more force to harm him. Besides, he took his from Ganon's massive freaking swords that *disintegrate* stone under their raw power, and got up just fine.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Link relies on accessories to get the job done while Sephiroth needs no accessories to beat someone.Take your toys and shove them Link, Seph owns your ass.
Lol, except the part where Link murders Sephiroth by throwing an apple at him, right? Seph has no chance against Link, what's wrong with you?
I showed lootic TWO videos, pay attention please.
a video of him striking genesis' sword in the air, causing the iron floor to crator just by the impact. Then a video of Sephiroth striking a barrier, and just by the force of the strike caused all the concrete in the area to crator. Then i asked for how much force in real life is sufficient to achieve that. Apparantly he cannot calculate that, and said its a "tie"
I'll give you an example why that's powerful, say theres a paper cup on the sidewalk, two 10 ton cars crash into eachother going 1000km/h the power output from the impact is capable of blowing that paper cup over. Now imagine something striking at eachother, and the power output from that is capable of cratoring Iron and concrete, how much power do you think is required for that? An insane amount.
The movies are canon and part of the FF7 story. You need to watch it if you want to understand the next video game sequal, etc.
Oh, and show me Ganon disintegrating a rock with a punch, thx.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Link relies on accessories to get the job done while Sephiroth needs no accessories to beat someone.Take your toys and shove them Link, Seph owns your ass.
Apparently his Link is physically invulnerable, nothing evil can harm him, he can dodge the speed of sound, throw comets at people, and other bs like that. Unfortunately none of these are facts, and he requires like essays of theories to give Link just a possibility.
Originally posted by Terryc250
I showed lootic TWO videos, pay attention please.a video of him striking genesis' sword in the air, causing the iron floor to crator just by the impact. Then a video of Sephiroth striking a barrier, and just by the force of the strike caused all the concrete in the area to crator. Then i asked for how much force in real life is sufficient to achieve that. Apparantly he cannot calculate that, and said its a "tie"
I'll give you an example why that's powerful, say theres a paper cup on the sidewalk, two 10 ton cars crash into eachother going 1000km/h the power output from the impact is capable of blowing that paper cup over. Now imagine something striking at eachother, and the power output from that is capable of cratoring Iron and concrete, how much power do you think is required for that? An insane amount.
The movies are canon and part of the FF7 story. You need to watch it if you want to understand the next video game sequal, etc.
your logic fails, it's hard to dent somethign that's easier to move than to dent, because it will just move. Also, More often than not, such effects are caused by non-physical energy sources or are simple inconsistencies to make things look badass because they can. Eitherway, post the video for me. And no, go read his post again, same post, after he remarks on that sarcasticly, he tells you Seph being as strong as Link is a baseless claim. I can get Lootic in here when he wakes up, if you want. 😱
What's wrong with me? What's wrong with you? Obviously you're a fanboy who can never be reasoned with. Arguing with you is an utter waste of time. It's always gonna be the same thing that comes out of that mouth of yours "Link wins." Dude, face facts.The facts are simply that Sephiroth has no way of hurting Link, and Link only needs to throw an apple at him to kill Seph.. did you read the thread? This is utter spite, Link wins 20/10.
Okay going by the formulae that you just said you would need only 100 kg of force to break through (Exaggerating a bit, I basically divided by 10000 almost like what you did to my 50kg). Still that is wrong, but even if it was right Sephiroth would easily be able to apply 100 kgs of force to a concentrated area.
Your logic is wrong, but even if it is right Sephiroth can still cut him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The facts are simply that Sephiroth has no way of hurting Link, and Link only needs to throw an apple at him to kill Seph.. did you read the thread? This is utter spite, Link wins 20/10.
BS and you know it. An apple? I can't tell whether you're actually serious or you're joking around. If you're serious, I lol at you.
Lol, what I did before was a terrible exageration, I'm not doing that kind of math at 2:30 am, but I promise you, my logic is not wrong, and I've never seen anything to suggest Sephiroth can cut Link, especially considering Link's durability feats. [which are insane.] Keep in mind throwing the stone increases the force pushing back on him exponentially. I did the math, and I won't say specifics here, but .. Well lemme say "godamn." I will post the numbers eventually, I'm just waiting for something. :] and under all that pressure, not so much as a sprain. Really, we haven't seen the top end of Link's strength, so we can only work with his best feat.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
BS and you know it. An apple? I can't tell whether you're actually serious or you're joking around. If you're serious, I lol at you.
Read the thread, if you want, I can PM the numbers to you, but you have to promise not to post them. Essentially, I can prove it, and then I'll lol at you. All evidence points to Link wins.