Sephiroth vs Link

Ok, the Golden Gauntlets allowed Link to carry all that weight. If Links muscles/body is really that dense and strong to beable to withstand all that pressure naturally, then he should naturally be able to lift it naturally. But he isn't. Strength lifting isn't just putting pressure in your arms, it's pressure throughout the body. Link did not have the strength in his body to lift it before he got the Golden Gauntlets. When he got it, the Golden Gauntlets allowed him to, which means the Golden Gauntlets is what take in all the pressure and lets Link lift it.

Therefore Link is not physically invulnerable.

Again, if we take real physics for the feats, Sephiroths striking feat is as good, if not greater then Links lifting feat.

I'm going to sort this.

Ok, the Golden Gauntlets allowed Link to carry all that weight. If Links muscles/body is really that dense and strong to beable to withstand all that pressure naturally, then he should naturally be able to lift it naturally. But he isn't. Strength lifting isn't just putting pressure in your arms, it's pressure throughout the body. Link did not have the strength in his body to lift it before he got the Golden Gauntlets. When he got it, the Golden Gauntlets allowed him to, which means the Golden Gauntlets is what take in all the pressure and lets Link lift it.

Therefore Link is not physically invulnerable.

Again, if we take real physics for the feats,

Sephiroths striking feat is as good, if not greater then Links lifting feat.

Sephiroth is nowhere close to Link in strength, even suggesting he is makes you look like mis-informed fanboy.

Originally posted by Terryc250

Who the hell are you to define "Teleport" the definition of teleport is simply to dematerialize, and reassemble at a different spot. Nothing stated that teleportation must be "speed of light" and that's it.

Once again, you're trying to state another one of your theories as fact, stop it, you're just speculating and nothing more. Teleporation does not exist in the real world, but teleportation in fiction is simply dematirializing, then reassembling at the spot. Like the example i gave you with Goku, he can teleport from planet to planet instantly, doesn't matter how far or anything, he just thinks of the spot, and teleports there.

That's all you can say? So without evidence or anything, you're sad pathetic attempt to downplay something is "ITS JUST CINEMATIC EFFECTS!!!" sorry buddy, but that doesn't mean shit. It still happened. The statement is still there, just because you don't like it, you can cry all night but it still doesn't change the fact.

Teleportation itself is a ****ing theory.

god you're an idiot. How do you think the "disassembled" and "reassembled" matter T R A V E L S? it has to use a path or something, this is how teleportation has been explained IN EVERYTHING ITS EXISTED to come from, since now teleportation is also a goal in real world modern science we hope to achieve. But as it stands, it is nothing but SCIENCE FICTION. That's where it comes from and first existed. So before you ask me who I am, ask yourself who the hell you are to define it when people who invented it with it's purposes before you even were a sex cell in the sack. Teleportation is the transfer of matter from one spot to another. When it breaks down to unseen and atomic level particles, it uses LIGHT TO TRAVEL and and energy of protons with it that to bounce and move around to the other spot.

Going the speed of light is no easy feat. You should be happy he can reach that speed during teleportation.

Speed movement; And here is the difference. If something goes the speed of light, it is still in it's solid and full form. Teleportation, is when something goes to a sub-atomic particle structure, so miniature, so that it can travel with in the speed of light's proton energy stream.

And my proof and facts and canon quotes from OFFICIAL nintendo, CUT SCENE video proof and words, down to the damn bone, about the moon durability feat, HOLD way much more over what you state as a personal VIEW and what your eyes perceive in the Omnislash Advent children incident. And you try to downplay the moon thing to cinematic effect. See how that works? See how karma comes to bite you back in the ass mate. Thought process can be turned in on itself. So until you can pull show some word for word proof of canon quotes from the creators and provide a source, your word means jack shit. That's your personal perception of the Omnislash. That isn't fact.

Terry, honestly for your own personal self. Go back and read half the stuff you type in response to what people say, you should really feel embarrassed. You misread the entire thing I said about steroids and the gauntlets. I said it was a poor choice of words on my behalf in the last post, BUT that aside, it still gives Link strength. I was only explaining how steroids work because you didn't seem to understand, it and I said it was a poor choice of words already. SO you should O N C E again read what I T Y P E, and these misunderstandings won't happen.

As for you thinking that lifting a 1000+ ton pillar = the strength of cutting a FALLING in motion skyscraper, you're dreaming!!

BUT ID LOVE to see you be able to show US the math involved in what it takes for someone with that size of a sword to be able to slice such a structure that is already aiding the cutting by being in movement of acceleration to help the action of the cut. IF You can do the math, and show us. I'd be shocked, and I'd be even more shocked if the power behind it equals lifting and tossing a 1000+ ton item effortlessly. Because heads up, it doesn't ;]

you think I'm raging and such, but honestly, I'm so calm and content while I write this stuff. I'm having fun with other people and playing smash and training and having multiple talks, I mean you're low on the radar. But I agree and you have to understand, you're such a dumb ass that it irritates me that some one this thick headed can even exist, after me relaying information to you in such elementary fashion, when I have given you the benefit of the doubt of being a "teenager" and "highschool student".

So go ahead post a paragraph that = "no u" or "lolholes" or "QQ" with no facts or proof, just more of your videos and what a description of what you THINK is happening, instead of canon quotes and facts. You don't even use academics or logic, let alone common sense to help you either.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm going to sort this.
FALSE/BASELESS CLAIMS, this would suggest the gauntlets enhanceh is durability, they do not, Link simply is that durable. The gauntlets give him strength, nothign more. Also, not lift, throw, and with relative easy, infact.

The result of bad logic, hes not totally invulnerable, no, but he is invulnerable to Sephiroth.

Like I've been doing the ENTIRE TIME?!

This in particular makes me laugh...A feat you have yet to show me which in all likely hood was either A: Sheerly for effect, as in most movies/cartoons/comics/whatever where this happens, the force involved is not actually sufficient to cause this. B: not a result of physical force but the energies that sorround such combats in anime-like mediums. See the Seph/Cloud fight in AC, random light shows? Levitation? There's clearly alot more at work/pushing on the ground in any of these scenarios than a simple shockwave from a class ten character.

Sephiroth is nowhere close to Link in strength, even suggesting he is makes you look like mis-informed fanboy.

No, because Link isn't that physically invulnerable. Remember the Zelda games? Yeah, that Link character sure gets harmed by far less then Sephiroth.

So then do the math for Sephiroth feat, and you'll see Sephiroth generated more power.

See, you can be in denial all you want, but the video speaks for itself. You can claim "cinematic effects!" for anything, for Sephiroth flying, sure, but he still flew and thats what matters.

@Voyeur.

That IS the definition of teleportation

Teleportation: A hypothetical method of transportation in which matter or information is dematerialized, usually instantaneously, at one point and recreated at another.

Teleportation: Fictional mode of change of place in which a person ‘dematerializes’ at one place, and emerges at another.

That's all teleportation is defined as. It's not blah blah travelling on energy at light speed bla bla, it's simply dematerializing, and materializing at a different spot, thats it, simple.

No, evidence is what I posted. What you post is simply theories, no where did any canon guide state the moon exploded. All you did was give a thoery that it was a possibility. It's entirely speculation.

No, it's complete common sense that its slowed in the movie. Because the big factor here, RF STATED that Omnislash is over in a blink of an eye. And if you even look at the video, Sephiroths hair freezes in the air, his clothes freezes in the air, while throughout the fight they were flapping through the wind, you would have to be blind to not see that. It's like seeing an explosion on screen, then me calling it an explosion, and you going "NO ITS NOT, NO PROOF! It's just effects!!"

As for you thinking that lifting a 1000+ ton pillar = the strength of cutting a FALLING in motion skyscraper, you're dreaming!!

If you're talking about when i showed lootic a video of Sephiroth clashing swords with Genesis in the air, and just from the impact, the power output from that caused the iron below them to crator. I already asked lootic to give me a calculationon how much power is needed to cause that, and he gave me no answer. Sephiroth also struck a barrier, and from the force of the impact caused concrete around them to crator in.

If you want to know how much power is needed, think of a paper cup sitting on the sidewalk, then two 100 ton trucks (1 meter away from the paper cup) crashing into eachother at 2000 km/h, the power output of the trucks caused the paper cup on the sidewalk to blow over. Now imagine something so power colliding that it caused iron and concrete about a meter away, to cave in.

And no, you're raging. People who go "ZOMG YOU A DUMBAZZ!!" "IM SO SMART! BUT YOU SO DUM!!", "LERN2REAAD!!!" are either raging nerds, or immature little kids.

And actually, I do post statements, see my last post before this? Yeah, it has statements. But where are yours? Oh, and "QQ"? Go back a few pages and tell me who was the one chanting that? Oh right, thats you again. Now who is the one "QQ"ing? Yup, you guessed it, you.

FWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA teleportation fictional.

FWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

read this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3811785.stm

thats about 5 years ago

LOL LOL LOL

I want to express my self more visible, I really wished you could here me.

And yes as long as you dont jump between dimensions you cant move faster than speed of light, its one of the laws of physics, also for moving in the speed of light you need an endless amount of energy. And if you somehow do you just end exist, that is also one of the laws of physics(or more like the most likely at the moment and said with a 99,99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sureness, thats why they are called laws XD)

once again FWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

And no I do not make a 2 pages ****ing equation for a discussion forum at the internet with numbers I have to totally guess, what the hell why vaste such valuable time on something that worthless, its not even fun. Once again the bones in a human body is stronger than concrete and iron. I think it is about 5 times harder than steel for example. and the barrier like effect dont make sense neither does the perfectly part spherical whole in the ground.

and for "QQ"ing the thing is terry that you never stop the hating, I actually thought it was allowed thanks to you.

As for gauntlets nobody knows how they work but you could make a parallell with how the belt the heavyweightlifters use.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Even without the moon feat, Sephiroth is not strong enoguh to hurt Link who has durability feats in spades.

This is what we call extreme fanboyism fokes. If anyone thinks that Sephiroth can't hurt Link then he is either a fanboy or flat out stupid, in this case, both.

As a side note, the moon feat is not near as useless as the ones against it want it to be, the moon was destroyed, and Link was inside, exposed to all the same forces it was, and was not destroyed. The way this woudl work that would be easiest to survive, explosion, was the first possiblity because it's the most conservative, all the other explanations actually improve it as a feat. So call it what you will, it's perfectly valid.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sephiroth is class ten-ish, if he threw something at Link, Link would laugh. 😐

All out if it was a meteor Link would have died, the moon is no way near close to the strength of a meteor.

Yeah, Link would laugh, and if Link tried to speed blitz Sephiroth, would stick his hand up and hold Link away laughing his ass off.

This is a good show!

*Munchs on popcorn and potato chips*

But in all honesty i am not going to participate as i only have knowledge on sephiroth and not on link and hence it wouldn't be fair for me to build a case.

Originally posted by DorianYates
This is a good show!

*Munchs on popcorn and potato chips*

But in all honesty i am not going to participate as i only have knowledge on sephiroth and not on link and hence it wouldn't be fair for me to build a case.

You are the most awesome dude Ive ever seen on the internet XD.

Originally posted by lootic
FWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA teleportation fictional.

FWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

read this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3811785.stm

thats about 5 years ago

LOL LOL LOL

I want to express my self more visible, I really wished you could here me.

And yes as long as you dont jump between dimensions you cant move faster than speed of light, its one of the laws of physics, also for moving in the speed of light you need an endless amount of energy. And if you somehow do you just end exist, that is also one of the laws of physics(or more like the most likely at the moment and said with a 99,99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sureness, thats why they are called laws XD)

once again FWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

And no I do not make a 2 pages ****ing equation for a discussion forum at the internet with numbers I have to totally guess, what the hell why vaste such valuable time on something that worthless, its not even fun. Once again the bones in a human body is stronger than concrete and iron. I think it is about 5 times harder than steel for example. and the barrier like effect dont make sense neither does the perfectly part spherical whole in the ground.

and for "QQ"ing the thing is terry that you never stop the hating, I actually thought it was allowed thanks to you.

As for gauntlets nobody knows how they work but you could make a parallell with how the belt the heavyweightlifters use.

as for your talking about a paper cup being blown over, I have no idea what you're trying to get it. It's a horrible analogy. And "blink of an eye" has speeds of 300 to 400 Miliseconds. An event that can be captured and slowed down, but you know what, THE EYE still moves during the slow motion. So yeah, blink of an eye where things freeze? Sorry, but nope. I don't understand how you can't get it.

Cloud, facing off against Sephiroth, the main protagonist against the evil antagonist, in the last battle of the film. You don't think they're going to hype up his final defeat with some cliche anime moment? the cinematic slow motion fight? Get over yourself Terry, honestly, Unless you go find a quote and cite the SOURCE, everything you say is your own perception.

Umm no, it's logic. You really think Link has powerful muscles, powerful body that it can take thousands of ton, yet he can't lift? That doesn't make sense. If he naturally has that powerful body, then naturally he should beable to lift without the golden gauntlets. It's the golden gauntlets that allows him to do that sort of thing.

Strawman. Link already has powerful muscles, but powerful =/= durable. Link as a whole was durable enough to withstand that throw the entire time. Canon>your biased theories. The gauntlets give him strength. They don;t 'take the pressure'.

No, because Link isn't that physically invulnerable. Remember the Zelda games? Yeah, that Link character sure gets harmed by far less then Sephiroth.

So then do the math for Sephiroth feat, and you'll see Sephiroth generated more power.

See, you can be in denial all you want, but the video speaks for itself. You can claim "cinematic effects!" for anything, for Sephiroth flying, sure, but he still flew and thats what matters.

@ lootic - You don't seem to realize that teleportation in fiction is as vague as time travelling, you cannot define it to a specific way. As long as you dematerialize, and reassemble at a different location. Just because scientists discovered how to move atoms fast, it doesn't change every persons ability in fiction. Sephiroth appeared in 1997 long before that article. Take time travel for example, here's an article and video documentery on it

http://www.livephysics.com/physics-videos/documentary/discovery---first-time-machine.html

In the article it states that the thing that enables the time travel to the past, its only possible to travel back to when the wormhole is first opened, therefore if you wanted to travel to the past, you have to open the wormhole, wait say about 15 years, then 15 years from now, you can enter the wormhole and travel 15 years back to when you first opened the wormhole. Does that mean ALL time travel in fiction must abide by this rule? No, it does not.

Like i said previously, its vage, the definition of time travel is simply to travel back and forth through time. The definition of teleport is just to dematerialize and reassemble at a different spot. Whether the fictional character does it through fictional means, or they do it under real life physics, it doesn't matter, it's still "teleportation" and it's still "time travelling".

Take Goku's teleportation for example, he can travel to planets across the universe instantly, as long as he just thinks of the spot.

@ voyeur - I didn't literally mean it froze, moving extremely slow . Slow enough that while Sephiroth is in the air, his hair is still up in the air, and also the back of his clothes is still up in the air as well.

No matter what you say about "cliche anime" junk, it doesn't mean anything, the statement is still there, and visually it still happens. Like i said you can claim "cliche" for an explosion that kills someone, but it makes no difference, the explosion is still there.

@ Screampaste - when you say "Powerful =/= Durable" you're completely contradicting everything you've been stating now, are you getting confused? Remember the whole "For every action there is an equal reaction" ? The big factor here is that realistic lifting isn't all about lifting in your arms, it's lifting throughout your entire body. You need a powerful body to lift big objects. Which is why the Golden Gauntlets doesn't make real-life sense. If Link already had that powerful body to lift things, then he wouldn't have needed the golden gauntlets. The only explanation is if the Golden Gauntlets, took in all of the pressure and weight into the Gauntlets, which thus allowed Link to lift it.

Actually it is canon, Legend of Zelda games = Canon.

Um no he doesn't, he simply struck against swords, go back a few pages and look yourself. Or post a video of Ganon disintegrating stone as Ive asked before, then i'll go and find the videos and timeframes again.

Actually you've got no proof, once again this is another "strawman" case of someone in denial who is reaching for an excuse and pulls out the "zomg cinematic effects!! " which is probably one of the most pathetic attempts at downplaying ive ever heard.

Originally posted by Terryc250
[B
@ Screampaste - when you say "Powerful =/= Durable" you're completely contradicting everything you've been stating now, are you getting confused? Remember the whole "For every action there is an equal reaction" ? The big factor here is that realistic lifting isn't all about lifting in your arms, it's lifting throughout your entire body. You need a powerful body to lift big objects. Which is why the Golden Gauntlets doesn't make real-life sense. If Link already had that powerful body to lift things, then he wouldn't have needed the golden gauntlets. The only explanation is if the Golden Gauntlets, took in all of the pressure and weight into the Gauntlets, which thus allowed Link to lift it.

Actually it is canon, Legend of Zelda games = Canon.

Um no he doesn't, he simply struck against swords, go back a few pages and look yourself. Or post a video of Ganon disintegrating stone as Ive asked before, then i'll go and find the videos and timeframes again.

Actually you've got no proof, once again this is another "strawman" case of someone in denial who is reaching for an excuse and pulls out the "zomg cinematic effects!! " which is probably one of the most pathetic attempts at downplaying ive ever heard. [/B]

Fail. you have no idea how any of this works, do you? For every action there is an equal reaction meaning he is durable enough to endure the force he exerts on the stone. [which is FAR in excess of the stone's own weight.] dur The gauntlets increase his strength, not his durability. Being durable enough to withstand that much crushing force does not require that you're strong enough to lift it. That Link can, and indeed throws it [thus inceasing the force pushing back on himself exponentially] shows his durability. This is beyond questioning with your silly strawmen.

Negative, you don't know what a strawman fallacy is, do you? I'm not downplayign anything, I'm giving the most likely explanations in light of your inability to prove your claims. :]

Do you not realize that its a low % of strength required in your arms to lift? Strength lifting is THROUGHOUT your body. So are you saying the Golden Gauntlets gave Link strength throughout his body? If so then we should have seen an increase of jumping ability, running ability, durability, etc. But did we? No. Therefore, the only explanation is the Golden Gauntlets takes in everything needed to lift, into the arms where the gauntlets are, thats it.

No, my proof is the statement that its over in a blink of an eye, the obvious visual of slow in the video. And yours is "zomg cinematic effects!" But it still doesn't change the fact whats in the video, now does it?

Reaching. at 32 MB OoT Already took up around 99% of the cartridge space available on N64 cartridge. Yes, the gauntlets augmented his strength, no in the game he couldn't jump farther, why? Because they didn't feel like coding something that would make the last dungeon a hell of alot harder to design. It would have had to be huge to accoutn for his new jumping power, and the game would have been too big for one cartridge, they' have to cut an entire dungeon for one new game mechanic.

Link's entire body obviously supported the stone... and was durable enough towithstand the incredible energy of a throw that would increase the pressure on him exponentially. Physics>your weak theories and attempts at downplaying his rediculous strength and durability.

lol, hyperbole.

... When you lift, you don't just lift with your arms while the rest of your body just supports. Your entire body does the lifting, from your legs, your back, your shoulders, etc.

Now you're the one who is reaching "the game developers just didn't feel like it!!" cmon man, it's getting pathetic. You want to get all real life physical with these things, now you want to make up some BS. I gave you a good reasoning with real life physics. The only way GG can give Link lifting strength, is by giving him strength throughout his entire body, which was not what happened. The only real physical explanation is if the GG took in all the pressure into the gloves. Which would make sense as to why Link didn't have some kind of uber physical upgrade.

Can't you see you're talking extremely biased here? You're claming the theories that make Link more powerful then he obviously is are true, yet the ones that make sense are just "well the game developers must have just not felt like coding". Which is ridiculous.

Teleportation was first science fiction and a made up theory, and when it was first used before many things, it was Star Trek that made it popular.

WHEN THE MATTER DEMATERIALIZES AND REMATERIALIZES it has to TRAVEL along something. IT HAS TO USE SOMETHING to get there. Floating matter and particles use the light and protons to travel. NO matter WHAT way you want to put it. They need something to travel on, or he'd just disassemble, and float around in the same spot. And your definition is false. It says it recreates the matter. It isn't recreated, it is just moved.

When things reach that level of sub-atomic state. Their only real means of travel is to use the protons and energy of light to carry it. Sort of like using a stream to get to one spot faster.

You're the second person I met on these forums who think that just because something is made up, it doesn't have rules. Well guess what, they do. All forms of all kinds of science fiction have a standing base idea of how that situation works. Even Magic in things like D&D, Zelda, the Materia in FF, or the Jenova, see all those things are made up. But they have specific functions to explain how they work. Teleportation is the same way, okay?

As for Goku's instant transmission you keep bringing up, that works on a quantum level of dimension rifting via Movies (I don't think those are canon) but canon via the Cell Saga, he says he uses LIGHT SPEED.

"The main protagonist, Goku, learns from an alien species on how to teleport on planetary scale in the anime series Dragonball Z. The technique was coined, "Instant Transmission", where Goku would focus his index and middle finger together towards his forehead and concentrate on a location he could sense through clairvoyant means through the practice of Qi Gong/Ki that is prevalent in the Anime/Dragonball Z universe."

"It allows Goku and anyone that is in contact with him to instantly travel great distances (from meters to light-years, or even travel between the living world and Other World) just by concentrating on a particular individual's energy signature and 'transmitting' to that being's location. This action is usually accompanied by Goku placing his index and middle fingers on his forehead to help him concentrate, though if extra time is taken the technique can be performed without this aid. The technique has many practical uses throughout the series. Goku can even shift through realms, having no problem teleporting from Earth to the Sacred World of the Kais in Other World, traveling there to find New Namek. In the Funimation dub of the anime, Goku describes the technique as allowing him to move at the speed of light (specifically 186,000 miles per second). It is revealed in a movie that this move briefly moves the user into a pocket dimension which then allows them to move to any location instantly. When Goku became a child, however the ability to use this technique was greatly hindered to the point were he just randomly travels to places a short distance away."

Funny. You want to talk about "instant transmission." there it is. Explaining and talking about the exact damn things I was telling you, funny isn't it? See Terry, stop being so thick headed.

Originally posted by Terryc250
... When you lift, you don't just lift with your arms while the rest of your body just supports. Your entire body does the lifting, from your legs, your back, your shoulders, etc.

Now you're the one who is reaching "the game developers just didn't feel like it!!" cmon man, it's getting pathetic. You want to get all real life physical with these things, now you want to make up some BS. I gave you a good reasoning with real life physics. The only way GG can give Link lifting strength, is by giving him strength throughout his entire body, which was not what happened. The only real physical explanation is if the GG took in all the pressure into the gloves. Which would make sense as to why Link didn't have some kind of uber physical upgrade.

Can't you see you're talking extremely biased here? You're claming the theories that make Link more powerful then he obviously is are true, yet the ones that make sense are just "well the game developers must have just not felt like coding". Which is ridiculous.

Negative, there literally was no space to program that, and if there was it woudl have made the last dungeon rediculous. The gauntlets do not take the pressure into themselve,s they make Link stronger, that's a canon fact, they make him stronger, they even say so. This apparently means his entire body cause guess wut, he lifted that column and threw it with relative ease.

I love Link and the entire Zelda Series. HUGE fan. But Seph beats the SH*T outa him.

^_^

IMO

Originally posted by Voyeur
Teleportation was first science fiction and a made up theory, and when it was first used before many things, it was Star Trek that made it popular.

WHEN THE MATTER DEMATERIALIZES AND REMATERIALIZES it has to TRAVEL along something. IT HAS TO USE SOMETHING to get there. Floating matter and particles use the light and protons to travel. NO matter WHAT way you want to put it. They need something to travel on, or he'd just disassemble, and float around in the same spot. And your definition is false. It says it recreates the matter. It isn't recreated, it is just moved.

You're the second person I met on these forums who think that just because something is made up, it doesn't have rules. Well guess what, they do. All forms of all kinds of science fiction have a standing base idea of how that situation works. Even Magic in things like D&D, Zelda, the Materia in FF, or the Jenova, see all those things are made up. But they have specific functions to explain how they work. Teleportation is the same way, okay?

As for Goku's instant transmission you keep bringing up, that works on a quantum level of dimension rifting via Movies (I don't think those are canon) but canon via the Cell Saga, he says he uses LIGHT SPEED.

"The main protagonist, Goku, learns from an alien species on how to teleport on planetary scale in the anime series Dragonball Z. The technique was coined, "Instant Transmission", where Goku would focus his index and middle finger together towards his forehead and concentrate on a location he could sense through clairvoyant means through the practice of Qi Gong/Ki that is prevalent in the Anime/Dragonball Z universe."

"It allows Goku and anyone that is in contact with him to instantly travel great distances (from meters to light-years, or even travel between the living world and Other World) just by concentrating on a particular individual's energy signature and 'transmitting' to that being's location. This action is usually accompanied by Goku placing his index and middle fingers on his forehead to help him concentrate, though if extra time is taken the technique can be performed without this aid. The technique has many practical uses throughout the series. Goku can even shift through realms, having no problem teleporting from Earth to the Sacred World of the Kais in Other World, traveling there to find New Namek. In the Funimation dub of the anime, Goku describes the technique as allowing him to move at the speed of light (specifically 186,000 miles per second). It is revealed in a movie that this move briefly moves the user into a pocket dimension which then allows them to move to any location instantly. When Goku became a child, however the ability to use this technique was greatly hindered to the point were he just randomly travels to places a short distance away."

Funny. You want to talk about "instant transmission." there it is. Explaining and talking about the exact damn things I was telling you, funny isn't it? See Terry, stop being so thick headed. [/B]

Okay, I don't even remember it being called "instant transmission" before the english dubs coined it that. Watching DBZ as a kid, it was referred to as Teleport, and that's it. Can you show me where it was stated to travel the speed of light? The explanation i remember was that he simply appeared where he thinks. Whether it be a planet on the side of space, or even to King Kai's.

Stop acting like a little kid. Are you bashing me because you want this thread to be closed? If you don't want to debate with me, then stop. Going around blowing steam over a forum just makes you look foolish.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
I love Link and the entire Zelda Series. HUGE fan. But Seph beats the SH*T outa him.

^_^

IMO