Sephiroth vs Link

Started by K1ll3r104 pages

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, they don't only boost his arms, that would make no sense, two, the properties of the sword affect the force exerted between two characters with strength on a level above 1000+ tons? The PSI on Link's hands was still well over 8494 tons without even hurting him during that sword lock, and that's if we don't even coutn Ganon pushing back. So, the properties of the sword repelling evil factored in already... What's your argument against that now?

How can Sephiroth hope to hurt that?

Edit: So we've established 1. Link's legs can also support the weight of those pillars, 2. Even if Ganon didn't push back Link's hands withstood 8494 tons of PSI without being damaged at all in TP.

This thread is ridiculous spite, how can Sephiroth fight what he can't hurt?

How do you know this? Where are you getting these numbers on the swordlock? From looking at it it seems barely any force is being exerted...NUMBERS FROM WHERE?

1. What proof?
2. What proof?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Killer... You're going to make me headdesk if you think anyone in FF7 can generate more force in a sword lock than Ganon and Link, a pair of thousand plus tonners. D:<

I have never seen the force coming from anyone in Zelda to crater the metal they are standing on, unlike in FF7.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, they don't only boost his arms, that would make no sense, two, the properties of the sword affect the force exerted between two characters with strength on a level above 1000+ tons? The PSI on Link's hands was still well over 8494 tons without even hurting him during that sword lock, and that's if we don't even coutn Ganon pushing back. So, the properties of the sword repelling evil factored in already... What's your argument against that now?

How can Sephiroth hope to hurt that?

Edit: So we've established 1. Link's legs can also support the weight of those pillars, 2. Even if Ganon didn't push back Link's hands withstood 8494 tons of PSI without being damaged at all in TP.

This thread is ridiculous spite, how can Sephiroth fight what he can't hurt?

You're just being stupid. The golden gauntlets clearly tell the player that it only strengthens the arms. Don't believe me? Here's proof:

TP Link's greatest strength feats was toppling Fyrus by pulling his chains and tossing Dangoro. Notice that he needed the Iron Boots to do all these feats. That strength plus an enhanced Master Sword was what made Ganondorf lose the power struggle.

The sword fight between Cloud and Sephiroth was far more impressive. You'd have to be blind not to think so.

The Master Sword has never been stated to increase strength. It doesn't push against Ganon, so sorry, that's all Link.

Dangoro's bossfight is a joke. Link tosses a Goron before he even gets to Dangoro that weighs more.

Sin, show me the word "only"?

One big flaw in your argument, Link's legs don't collapse when he lifts the pillar in OoT, so either his legs are always awesome, or they give him strength through out his entire body.

There's a hundred problems with your theory. |:

Also, TP Link's best strength feat is over-powering Ganon. Ganondorf is physicly stronger than OoT Link with the golden gauntlets, and OoT Link with the golden gauntlets could stack tanks like pancakes if he wanted to.

Killer, /headdesk. Link and Ganon are both far more physicly powerful than anyone in FF7. They sword locked, and without counting Ganon's strength at all, the PSI on Link's hands, if we use only his own strength, rounded down, and spread the PSI over an impossibly large area, thus makign the end result smaller than would be possible, still came to 8494 tons per square inch.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sin, show me the word "only"?

He doesn't need to. It's not there. But that doesn't mean it isn't so. Since that picture shows that the gloves empowers his arms (Definately), we will be needing you to prove to us that it empower so much more than that.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The Master Sword has never been stated to increase strength. It doesn't push against Ganon, so sorry, that's all Link.

Dangoro's bossfight is a joke. Link tosses a Goron before he even gets to Dangoro that weighs more.

Actually the Master Sword does powerup but this Sol upgrade only works in the Twilight Realm so that Link could actually beat the Twili beasts.

Gor Coron weighs more than Dangoro? That's BS and guess what; Link even used the Iron Boots to defeat the old guy in a sumo match. Without it, he flies off the ring.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sin, show me the word "only"?

One big flaw in your argument, Link's legs don't collapse when he lifts the pillar in OoT, so either his legs are always awesome, or they give him strength through out his entire body.

They're magic gauntlets, remember? They increase his arm strength to such far levels that make certain objects feel lighter than they should.


Also, TP Link's best strength feat is over-powering Ganon. Ganondorf is physicly stronger than OoT Link with the golden gauntlets, and OoT Link with the golden gauntlets could stack tanks like pancakes if he wanted to.

Ganon might be stronger than Link's arms in golden gauntlets but I don't see how Ganondorf has the same strength as his beast form. No doubt he's stronger than any Link (he broke the floor with his fist) but remember that he's up against a wielder of the Master Sword who does have strength feats himself. Tell me where TP Link has done feats anywhere near OoT Link with the gauntlets.


Killer, /headdesk. Link and Ganon are both far more physicly powerful than anyone in FF7. They sword locked, and [b]without counting Ganon's strength at all
, the PSI on Link's hands, if we use only his own strength, rounded down, and spread the PSI over an impossibly large area, thus makign the end result smaller than would be possible, still came to 8494 tons per square inch.

OoT Link is only stronger than Sephiroth in arm power but he's still not fast enough. TP Link, maybe slightly. But strength won't matter if he's got the shorter sword as well as a major speed disadvantage.

And seriously, where you getting all this math from? It doesn't take a genius to understand that Link isn't going to hit Sephiroth, let alone kill him.

I win. Look at his legs. Not buckled.

THUS; either 1. The gauntlets give his entire body the strength he displays, or 2. his arms were the only part of him not that strong before, because it takes your entire body to lift and throw. |:

Edit: Don't use gameplay to try and deny Link's strength, it gets tiresome. Even Kratos uses doors. Breaking a floor is easy for either Ganon or Link, their on a level of strength beyond anythign in FF7.

Edit again: How will Sephiroth dodge an apple thrown at 10 km per second? He won't.

Edit again x 2: Even if Sephiroth hits Link, it won't hurt Link, Sephiroth has no chance here, just drop the topic. I've been on every page and it's a LONG thread, it's making me crazy, I've dug up so much proof, done so much math, and given so much concrete evidence backed with logical argument in here I'm losign the will to continue doing it and my posts are beginning to sounds like "No: this.". I'm tired of this thread D:<

FURTHERMORE:

From here on in, I'm gonna start debating like a reaaaal douchebag. |:< If the Sephiroth half of the argument is going to start nit-picking with my legit feats and evidence, fabricating silliness like Terry did in the past, I'm going to ENTIRELY disregard the FF7 movies, because as per the rules of this forum, they are not games, and do not count.

This will last for as long as they continue to make claims that directly contradict Link's feats. |:<

Edit: This boils down to me requesting the do only one of two things that are EXPECTED anyway.

1. Either debate properly, rather than disregarding and fabricating excuses for the other character's feats OR
2. Follow the rules.

Is it totally unreasonable to ask for one of those?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
[B]

I win. Look at his legs. Not buckled.

THUS; either 1. The gauntlets give his entire body the strength he displays, or 2. his arms were the only part of him not that strong before, because it takes your entire body to lift and throw. |:

You didn't prove anything. The gauntlets will make things feel lighter to the arms but that doesn't mean large objects it won't feel heavy. And the description isn't completely gameplay. It's obvious that it only strengthens the arms. Notice it isn't golden armor?


Edit: Don't use gameplay to try and deny Link's strength, it gets tiresome. Even Kratos uses doors. Breaking a floor is easy for either Ganon or Link, their on a level of strength beyond anythign in FF7.

I'm not using gameplay. I'm stating the obvious.

Kratos doesn't use gauntlets to do Herculean feats. He's proven to be stronger than man before he gets any god power.

And I'm sure OoT Link can bust the floor (w/ Golden Gauntlets). TP Link, at best, would only make a small crater that I can fit my foot in.


Edit again: How will Sephiroth dodge an apple thrown at 10 km per second? He won't.

You're right, he won't. He will just simply hold his sword in the way and watch it deflect.


Edit again x 2: Even if Sephiroth hits Link, it won't hurt Link, Sephiroth has no chance here, just drop the topic. I've been on every page and it's a LONG thread, it's making me crazy, I've dug up so much proof, done so much math, and given so much concrete evidence backed with logical argument in here I'm losign the will to continue doing it and my posts are beginning to sounds like "No: this.". I'm tired of this thread D:<

You never proven that Link is anywhere that durable. He would get stabbed and shot just like any normal human being or elf.


From here on in, I'm gonna start debating like a reaaaal douchebag. |:< If the Sephiroth half of the argument is going to start nit-picking with my legit feats and evidence, fabricating silliness like Terry did in the past, I'm going to ENTIRELY disregard the FF7 movies, because as per the rules of this forum, they are not games, and do not count.

This will last for as long as they continue to make claims that directly contradict Link's feats. |:<

That's fine. Crisis Core shows Sephiroth at his weakest schooling two warriors who would make a meal out of Link.

................. 😆

You didn't prove anything. The gauntlets will make things feel lighter to the arms but that doesn't mean large objects it won't feel heavy. And the description isn't completely gameplay. It's obvious that it only strengthens the arms. Notice it isn't golden armor?
So your logic is a strength enhancing item has to cover the entiree body to give full body strength? FAILURE.

The gauntlets do not make objects lighter, they make Link stronger, and /his legs can clearly support the weight/. FURTHER MORE, Link grunts when he lifts, showing he was exerting effort, and that the gauntlets didn't simply levitate it... Stop fabricating.

I'm not using gameplay. I'm stating the obvious.

Kratos doesn't use gauntlets to do Herculean feats. He's proven to be stronger than man before he gets any god power.

And I'm sure OoT Link can bust the floor (w/ Golden Gauntlets). TP Link, at best, would only make a small crater that I can fit my foot in.

........ TP Link over powered Ganondorf in a sword lock, he's stronger than OoT Link, and OoT Link with the golden gauntlets could probably crush coal into diamonds if he felt like it. Stop reaching.

You're right, he won't. He will just simply hold his sword in the way and watch it deflect.
Sephiroth has never, and will never, ever, react that fast.

You never proven that Link is anywhere that durable. He would get stabbed and shot just like any normal human being or elf
you're an idiot.

1. SEE TEH EVIDENCE.
2. He's not a human or Elf.
3. Show me Sephiroth generating 8494 tons of PSI?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's one hundred percent Canon, you need to do it to beat the game. There were no boots involved, Link simply cracked his knuckles and throw the stone over his shoulder. Seph has no chance against Link, tbh, this is spite against Seph.. Here's why!

Alright, the first thing you should know, is I do alot of down-rounding in these numbers specificly so that if I screw up, I err on the pesimistic side, thus these are not exagerated fanboy numbers, at all.

Alright, we'll begin with the granite rock. [Mathed as white granite, lighter than black.]

Let me be clear, this is me being VERY conservative and working with rounded numbers. [rounded DOWN to the nearest million in the case of mass in pounds.]

If the stone Link threw in the original feat moved approx 225 metres [nice down rounded estimate] horizontally [I'm not bothering to math the high arc, screw that. If I -did- I'd get an even larger number, so this is more down-rounding.]

and 2 million pounds is 907184.739 kilos, and it was in the air approx 3 seconds, [thus moving at an easily mathed 75 m/s]

K=1/2mv^2

M= 907184.73999
V= 75

this means K [kinetic energy] = 2551457081.25 joule.

^Link is capable of generating an extremely high level of joulage with his muscles, and that is not his peak possible throw, but as his best feat, we round it down to be on the safe side.

Now that we know how much energy he can produce, roughly, we can apply that energy to a simple equasion for throwing somethign of the same density as the granite.

Now, just for purposes of being conservative, rather than put in the realisitc weight of something like his sheild, we'll put in.. 100 lbs? K. Watch.

K = 2551457081.25 joules
m = 100 pounds = 45.359237 kilograms

Thus:

velocity (v) = 10606.6017178 meter/second
velocity (v) = 3818376618.52 centimeter/hour
velocity (v) = 1060660.17178 centimeter/second
velocity (v) = 3006595762.52 foot/day
velocity (v) = 34798.5620663 foot/second
velocity (v) = 1503297881.26 inch/hour
velocity (v) = 417582.744795 inch/second
velocity (v) = 10.6066017178 kilometer/second
velocity (v) = 20617.5843505 knot
velocity (v) = 31.1683858883 mach sea level 15 C
velocity (v) = 916410388.416 meter/day
velocity (v) = 23726.2923179 mile/hour
velocity (v) = 6.59063675498 mile/second
velocity (v) = 10606601.7178 millimeter/second
velocity (v) = 3.53798150513E-05 speed of light in vacuum
velocity (v) = 11599.5206888 yard/second

OoT Link's strength.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
PSI is the result of pound-foot force on a single inch of surface area, and a pound foot of force is equal to 1.3558179483314004 joules.

Link in OoT threw a granite block weighing 1388.994 tons at a speed of over 75 meters per second, with relative ease. For this exercise, I'll be rounding these numbers down to 1300 and 75.

To accellerate a block that heavy to that speed Link had to generate 3316894205 joules of energy. Ganon is stronger than even OoT Link with the gauntlets, and TP Link sword locked with Ganon. [AHAH, relevance!]

Now let's assume that TP Link is as strong as OoT Link. [He's actually stronger.], and Ganon for whatever reason, rather than resisting Link in the sword lock, remains static, thus it's only the reaction of Link's own action on the palms of his hands when he sword locks with Ganon in TP.

This is; 2446415618 foot-pounds of force, now divide by the area of his hands. let's assume for the pure lulz that the palms of his hands combine into a square foot of area. Divide by 144 for PSI and you get 16988997 from just his own down-rounded strength, spread over an impossibly large surface area, and this amount of force did no harm whatsoever to Link.

FYI, thats 8494 tons of PSI.

Edit: I laugh at the idea of a bullet hurting him. |:


The PSI applied to his hands when he threw the pillar, and TP Link's hands when he sword locked with Ganon, assuming Ganon didn't push back at all, and assuming both spread the weight over ridiculously huge hands.

Note neither was hurt at all.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
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So your logic is a strength enhancing item has to cover the entiree body to give full body strength? FAILURE.

The gauntlets do not make objects lighter, they make Link stronger, and /his legs can clearly support the weight/. FURTHER MORE, Link grunts when he lifts, showing he was exerting effort, and that the gauntlets didn't simply levitate it... Stop fabricating.

The Gauntlets increase the strength of the arms which makes objects feel lighter than they really are. Is that too hard to understand? The reason why Link couldn't lift the pillar was that it was still a bit heavy even with increased strength. But he still lifted it. I also never said that he made the pillar levitate.

........ TP Link over powered Ganondorf in a sword lock, he's stronger than OoT Link, and OoT Link with the golden gauntlets could probably crush coal into diamonds if he felt like it. Stop reaching.

Link couldn't overpower the Gorons without Iron Boots. Stop exaggerating.

Sephiroth has never, and will never, ever, react that fast.

Sephiroth reacts faster than anybody in the Zelda universe (with probable exception of the 3 Goddesses).

you're an idiot.

You're saying OoT Link can defeat Sephiroth who could compete with the likes of DMC's Dante. You're an idiot and a Zelda fanboy.


1. SEE TEH EVIDENCE.
2. He's not a human or Elf.
3. Show me Sephiroth generating 8494 tons of PSI?

1. You have no evidence that Link has thick skin or even has the speed to deal with Sephiroth.

2. He has a human appearance, with pointy ears, a Peter Pan outfit, and impressive agility. He's an elf.

3. You don't need math to prove Link would lose against Sephiroth. If I want to look at all those calculations you've made, I'll make sure I have insomnia first.

According to the Zelda fanboy facts:

1. TP Link is stronger than the Hulk.

2. Tatl and her brother are very powerful since they KO'd Link off a horse and survived an imaginary moon explosion. Let's not forget that Young Link is strong enough to survive a fall from the moon despite any evidence proving that happened.

3. The Gorons are stronger than a 1000 tonner since TP Link (who's stronger than Link w/ golden gauntlets) needed Iron Boots to stand a chance. That must mean the Gorons would overpower beings as powerful as Thor and Juggernaut.

4. Link could kill anyone instantly, outside of Ganon, by throwing his shield.

5. Link can survive cosmic explosions and is 100% bulletproof.

6. Link can keep up with a jet fighter.

The Gauntlets increase the strength of the arms which makes objects feel lighter than they really are. Is that too hard to understand? The reason why Link couldn't lift the pillar was that it was still a bit heavy even with increased strength. But he still lifted it. I also never said that he made the pillar levitate.
And this explains why his legs do not buckle, how? BE CLEAR PLEASE.

Link couldn't overpower the Gorons without Iron Boots. Stop exaggerating.
actually, he could, the problem is they're so heavy compared to him that pushing on them would simply push him back, that is why he needed the boot,s they don't give strength, they just make him heavy... Once he was heavy enough he over-powered them, infact he cought a 200+ goron in motion and threw it like a ball. |:

You're saying OoT Link can defeat Sephiroth who could compete with the likes of DMC's Dante. You're an idiot and a Zelda fanboy.
Calling ME the fanboy when I'm the one with evidence doesn't make yourself look good at all.

1. You have no evidence that Link has thick skin or even has the speed to deal with Sephiroth.

2. He has a human appearance, with pointy ears, a Peter Pan outfit, and impressive agility. He's an elf.

3. You don't need math to prove Link would lose against Sephiroth. If I want to look at all those calculations you've made, I'll make sure I have insomnia first.

According to the Zelda fanboy facts:

1. TP Link is stronger than the Hulk.

2. Tatl and her brother are very powerful since they KO'd Link off a horse and survived an imaginary moon explosion. Let's not forget that Young Link is strong enough to survive a fall from the moon despite any evidence proving that happened.

3. The Gorons are stronger than a 1000 tonner since TP Link (who's stronger than Link w/ golden gauntlets) needed Iron Boots to stand a chance. That must mean the Gorons would overpower beings as powerful as Thor and Juggernaut.

4. Link could kill anyone instantly, outside of Ganon, by throwing his shield.

5. Link can survive cosmic explosions and is 100% bulletproof.

6. Link can keep up with a jet fighter.


1. Yes I do, read my posts.
2. And you're a moron. He's a Hylian.
3. So you're not even looking at the evidence? And I'm the fanboy. Sephiroth loses. All evidence points to it.

My apparent fanboy facts:
1. Actually, considerign the Hulk beat down the Sentry, no, TP Link is not stronger, go hang out in the comic section for a bit.
2. You're trying to use one P.I.S moment to excuse everythign else ever. Besides which point, that was young Link at the beginning of a game without his peice of the triforce, and later in that game, IE, the end game version of him we use in debates, like any other character, tanked the moon's destruction.
3. No, they're just heavier, go push on a house, see what moves first.
4. Anyone? Just characters who can't survive that kind of collision, IE, Sephiroth.
5. I don't see what's so hard for you to understand about Link = durable?
6. I never said this, or anythign close to this, lolwtf?

Edit: In closing none of your arguments make any logical sense whatsoever.

You can't push somethign across the groudn if it's heavier than you, you'll push yourself back, unless you can anchor yourself, the boots acted solely as an anchor.

If Link's strength exists only in his arms, his legs would buckle when he lifted 1000+ ton objects.

The gauntlets do not take the weight for him, he's obviously exerting effort on his own, as evidenced by him cracking his knuckles before the throw, and yelling as he lifts it.

Do you know how durable you have to be to stop a 200+ ton moving object in it's tracks, or to launch a 1300 ton object into the air without being crushed?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Actually the Master Sword does powerup but this Sol upgrade only works in the Twilight Realm so that Link could actually beat the Twili beasts.

Gor Coron weighs more than Dangoro? That's BS and guess what; Link even used the Iron Boots to defeat the old guy in a sumo match. Without it, he flies off the ring.

Dangoro is a lightweight compared to the big Goron, who was literally TOSSED as opposed to just tripped.

And no, the Master Sword does not add Strength.

I've still yet to be disproven that Link can deal with Sephiroth's famed "attacking speed." There's no difference between Zants initial attack and all of Sephiroth's.

Edit: Oh my god. I just saw that someone thinks we said Link is stronger than the Hulk. Lulz.

It's a well known fact that Hulk's strength increases in proportion to his rage.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And this explains why his legs do not buckle, how? BE CLEAR PLEASE.

If his legs do not buckle, you just proved me right. Buckle means to bend, right?


actually, he could, the problem is they're so heavy compared to him that pushing on them would simply push him back, that is why he needed the boot,s they don't give strength, they just make him heavy... Once he was heavy enough he over-powered them, infact he cought a 200+ goron in motion and threw it like a ball. |:

That makes sense since Link is light enough for a Goron to knock away.


Calling ME the fanboy when I'm the one with evidence doesn't make yourself look good at all.

😖leep:


1. Yes I do, read my posts.
2. And you're a moron. He's a Hylian.
3. So you're not even looking at the evidence? And I'm the fanboy. Sephiroth loses. All evidence points to it.

1. But do you read the posts where Sephiroth has a clear advantage over Link?

2. Which is a type of elf. If that's not an elf, neither are the Drow.

3. There's plenty of evidence that pre-Nibeleim Seph could wipe the floor with Link. Did you even see the video where Seph fought Genesis? C'mon, even his opponents kick Link's ass around.


My apparent fanboy facts:
1. Actually, considerign the Hulk beat down the Sentry, no, TP Link is not stronger, go hang out in the comic section for a bit.
2. You're trying to use one P.I.S moment to excuse everythign else ever. Besides which point, that was young Link at the beginning of a game without his peice of the triforce, and later in that game, IE, the end game version of him we use in debates, like any other character, tanked the moon's destruction.
3. No, they're just heavier, go push on a house, see what moves first.
4. Anyone? Just characters who can't survive that kind of collision, IE, Sephiroth.
5. I don't see what's so hard for you to understand about Link = durable?
6. I never said this, or anythign close to this, lolwtf?

Your sarcasm detector fails hard.


If Link's strength exists only in his arms, his legs would buckle when he lifted 1000+ ton objects.

The gauntlets do not take the weight for him, he's obviously exerting effort on his own, as evidenced by him cracking his knuckles before the throw, and yelling as he lifts it.

Do you know how durable you have to be to stop a 200+ ton moving object in it's tracks, or to launch a 1300 ton object into the air without being crushed?

yawn

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
[B]Dangoro is a lightweight compared to the big Goron, who was literally TOSSED as opposed to just tripped.

It seems I missed a Goron because the one I remembered that had a match with Link was one of the elders. I'd like to see this Goron that I can't remember.


And no, the Master Sword does not add Strength.

But the sword was made to seal evil and I'm assuming it's what protected Link from Ganondorf's waves of darkness. Though, that's just my theory.


I've still yet to be disproven that Link can deal with Sephiroth's famed "attacking speed." There's no difference between Zants initial attack and all of Sephiroth's.

As far as I'm seeing from that boss battle, Zant can teleport but his energy blasts don't go that fast and his swordplay is the equivalent of a snail when compared to Sephiroth. Go see that Crisis Core video again and turn your Fanboy Mode off.


Edit: Oh my god. I just saw that someone thinks we said Link is stronger than the Hulk. Lulz. It's a well known fact that Hulk's strength increases in proportion to his rage.

It was sarcasm. I don't believe any Link even comes close to having Hulk's strength. And I know what Hulk is capable of (he took on the Avengers and gave them a fight they would remember).

EDIT: I think I'll stop debating in this thread for now. I'll probably come back when I finish FF7.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
If his legs do not buckle, you just proved me right. Buckle means to bend, right?

That makes sense since Link is light enough for a Goron to knock away.

2. Which is a type of elf. If that's not an elf, neither are the Drow.

It seems I missed a Goron because the one I remembered that had a match with Link was one of the elders. I'd like to see this Goron that I can't remember.

But the sword was made to seal evil and I'm assuming it's what protected Link from Ganondorf's waves of darkness. Though, that's just my theory.

As far as I'm seeing from that boss battle, Zant can teleport but his energy blasts don't go that fast and his swordplay is the equivalent of a snail when compared to Sephiroth. Go see that Crisis Core video again and turn your Fanboy Mode off.

It was sarcasm. I don't believe any Link even comes close to having Hulk's strength. And I know what Hulk is capable of (he took on the Avengers and gave them a fight they would remember).

Buckle means to wear your seatbelt. Duh.

You can be incredibly strong and durable but still be normal weight. See Kratos.

A Hylian is not an elf. Pointed ears =/= Elf.

Ignore the lame intro.
YouTube video

The sword was made to defeat Evil. It protects Link from evil magic, leveling the playing field against Ganondorf who otherwise could mop the floor with Link.

Zant teleports and attacks directly out of it. Link has no more time to react to that first hit from Zant than he would any of Sephiroth's. We know he beat Zant. Link can deal with that speed.

That video was win. Hulk lifted Thor's hammer anyway. Win.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
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Ignore the lame intro.
YouTube video

That's Dangoro, the Goron I mentioned at least twice.

Yay, now I'm an ass.

That's my ADD. It read "tripping Dangoro by pulling his chains."

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yay, now I'm an ass.

That's my ADD. It read "tripping Dangoro by pulling his chains."

You got mixed up with Fyrus.