Sephiroth vs Link

Started by ScreamPaste104 pages

Yeah, and he was falling the entire way. 😐 It didn't KO, or even hurt him. The horse moment is totally inconsistant.

I don't remember any such fall in the intro?

He gets pulled by the horse, falls off and that is when gameplay starts?

You run after the horse in gameplay for a second, because Nintendo always allows the player to play out action sequences, then it cuts back to a cut scenes, and Link falls several hundred feet, totally unhurt.

He falls, gets warped, and after the warp, falls like twenty feet.

Yeah, dude naw.

Even falling twenty feet is falling farther than four feet off of a horse calf. So, yeah, it happens immediately after and totally contradicts the horse thing. 😬

Also, the warp was gradual and in no way affected momentum, he'd still be moving at terminal velocity, hell, we never even see a warp. That tunnel could be a physical joint between the two dimensions. We don't know. The only thing that makes it look like a warp is the presence of some shapes floating around for a second, which happens a lot in Zelda games anyway.

Oh, that part, I thought that flower broke most of the fall. If there was even that much of a fall.

Also, when he lands it barely ruffles the flower.

Link was falling for a couple seconds, no flower will break a fall that long. It was a foot thick at best. Even if it acted as some sort of cushion, Link was under a lot more force than when he fell of of his horse. That one P.I.S. moment with him falling off of epona is inconsistant, and not worth bringing up again.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link was falling for a couple seconds, no flower will break a fall that long. It was a foot thick at best. Even if it acted as some sort of cushion, Link was under a lot more force than when he fell of of his horse. That one P.I.S. moment with him falling off of epona is inconsistant, and not worth bringing up again.

But it is a special deku...or whatever flower!

Links head was apparently under more force when he fell of the horse.

Yes it is, Nintendo could have easily added in something much more epic to incapacitate Link if he was in fact as durable as you think he is.

No, it's a P.I.S. moment.

No, his head was not under more force, that would be impossible. When Link stopped moving, he stopped moving suddenly, the flower was far too thin to ever absorb all of his impact, or even half of it, and he stopped instantly. The inertia in his head would instantly be transferred down his spinal column, and if he was as frail as you like to claim due to bias, he'd be KO'd. He was totally unhurt. The horse instance was totally inconsistant.

It's proven to be P.I.S.

Compared to falling four feet off of a horse calf, it's obvious the fall from the cliff was the greater force. |:

But why did Nintendo make him get knocked out so easily then? They could have EASILY added in something different to knock him out if your belief of his durability was true.

I disagree with you, it barely looked like he had been falling far, and he didn't seem to create much of an impact on the flower, ergo there wasn't much impact force.

You want an N64 game to have an accurate physics engine? No. The impact force, as he had been free falling for several seconds, would be terminal.

You're in denial of the P.I.S. because of your own bias. I'm going to laugh at any future mentions of the horse incident, sir.

You don't need accurate physics engines in cutscenes. What? No.

You're in denial of Links real durability, because of your own bias. I am going to just laugh at Link in general.

Also, why aren't you answering my question on why Nintendo would do that when according to you Link is CLEARLY more durable then they showed?

Your argument regarded how the cutscene looked, and in order for the cutscene to behave in that way, yes, it would need a physics engine.

No, the moment you're describing is P.I.S. and totally inconsistant with everything else to ever happen.

And because it's a moot point. The answer to that doesn't affect anything. The moment was still P.I.S. And the answer is probably laziness. They couldn't have a combat section, because if Link lost there'd be no reason for him to survive and the rest of the game to happen.

Like I said Paste. The fall off the cliff as a disclaimer to the previous ko from being bucked off the horse has no grounds to be called such.

And just as I said, your argument that it does make the latter P.I.S. would not hold ground here on KMC at all.

He fell far sure, but he fell on a flower that clearly by the developers' intention was meant to cushion his fall. The horse bucking ko stands. Nothing before or after that scene has shown that Young Link shouldn't be prone to being out cold from being thrown off a horse.

(And needless to say, the 'moon busting durability feat' has become entirely discardable.)

Still, this is all young Link. Adult Link would not be prone to such weak showings, especially TP Link.

CC, I disagree entirely.

There's no reason to suspect the flower was a cushion at all.

The horse bucking could only be P.I.S. because it contradicts everything else.

There is reason because it acted entirely as that in the cutscene and moments before that cutscene he was simply knocked out cold in another from a mediocre fall from horseback. lol.

That argument doesn't hold any water.

The horse was the P.I.S. moment, so that's moot, you can't use a P.I.S. moment to back a claim. The flower, even if it did acxt as a cushion, could not possibly halt his fall with Link taking less force than when he fell off of the horse. The horse was a simple P.I.S. moment.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Your argument regarded how the cutscene looked, and in order for the cutscene to behave in that way, yes, it would need a physics engine.

No, the moment you're describing is P.I.S. and totally inconsistant with everything else to ever happen.

And because it's a moot point. The answer to that doesn't affect anything. The moment was still P.I.S. And the answer is probably laziness. They couldn't have a combat section, because if Link lost there'd be no reason for him to survive and the rest of the game to happen.

To move vertices, one does not need to use physics.

It seems very consistant to me, as I haven't seen Link survive anything more in an actual canon event.

No, clearly you have no imagination at all, the fairies could have induced a sleep state on Link or they could have just quickly stolen his Ocarina, there are many ways in which Nintendo could have done it but they done it this way.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Still, this is all young Link. Adult Link would not be prone to such weak showings, especially TP Link.

Are you sure? How much more durable would Links head get the older he gets?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
CC, I disagree entirely.

There's no reason to suspect the flower was a cushion at all.

The horse bucking could only be P.I.S. because it contradicts everything else.

Yes there is, as it clearly does cushion his fall.

= /

So you're claiming a /flower/ ended a descent at terminal velocity, with no force at all being exerted on Link?

You're only latching onto CC's words to keep your bias afloat.

That argument makes no sense at all.

Furthermore: CC brings up a good point. We're not discussing Link as a child in this thread anyway, so that one P.I.S. moment is rendered even less valid.