Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo BB can't take the godblast and live but thor can't take a scream and live.
Black Bolt blood lusted would increase in power etc. but his main threat the voice, can be taken by Thor because of his powers.His energy, matter manipulation, are trumped by Thor's own versatile power set.
Going all out, with the Odin Force etc. Thor should win this fight.
Abilities like the God Blast are still viable options and as powerful as Black Bolt is, I doubt he could take a full out God Blast from Current Thor and survive, or at least be conscious.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus😂 BB's higher end voice would destroy thor.
As close to instantaneous as it comes. It happens from Thor spinning his hammer around himself, and he has been able to spin his hammer around at speeds faster than light if I recall.Even without his mystical vortex, Black Bolt will be hard pressed to put Thor down, even with his voice.
And how does thor overcome BB's shields?And hes fast too so can can fly and evade the godblast.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHow does that have anything to due with hitting BB?
True, Black Bolt is extremely fast but Thor being to execute the attack should not be any problem with his abilities and power.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusBlack bolt could use his shields so the storm wouldn't hit him.Even a savage hulk has had to pound away at it for a while to break.
True he could, but with his ability to create Force Field's, energy and matter manipulation abilities, Black Bolt would be able to gain some footing.Of course Thor can create storms of incredible power. On a planetary scale even, so they will be able hold back Black Bolt for as long as Thor needs him to be held back.
Originally posted by Kasper Gutman😂
Thor wins this. Thor just beat a more powerful Blackbolt. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned it yet as it just happened. Bor versus Thor. Bor went nuclear, for lack of a better word, and would have destroyed the planet if Thor hadn't stopped him. Bor's power mimicked what BB's scream looked like on panel but was vastly more powerful. Thor took it, advanced on Bor and killed him. That says a lot, Bor was a skyfather level "hero" who may have been tougher in melee combat then either Odin or Thor. BB goes down hard in this fight. The Bor fight shows on panel evidence that Thor walks through BB's scream and kills him. I hate typing that, I'm a BB fanboy.
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Originally posted by jalek moyeBB has taken lots hit hits from savage hulk who is physically stronger then thor but BB can't take 2-3?
classic one would be really close. But now i dont think blackbolt could really more then maybe 2-3 hits from thor unless he amped for like an entire day.but it i could see some wins going to blackbolt if he screams before thor throws mjolnir into his little antenna on his head.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeNo its not.If anything its underrated.Rage thinks thor can take BB's scream....
Yup, I was gonna say.Black Bolt's scream is pretty overrated, and Smurph is his number 1 fan.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeFar?Not by a chance.
And how the hell does that make him capable of taking on Thor w/odinforce?The only "top tier herald" he "dropped" was Gladiator with a sneak attack, and that was temporary. No matter how strong you think Black Bolt is, Classic Thor's offensive output far trumps his.
Originally posted by jalek moyeAnd lightning might not work because of BB's shields.
thors lightning isnt as powerful as he is phsycally against most foes. and aside from the godblast he knew his energy attacks would really do much.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeThat was a skrull.
Yup, hence why I'm claiming that Thor has more power output feats.Also, Black Bolt screamed against Apocalypse 🙂
Originally posted by h1a8Thor can take a whisper but a scream?No way in hell.
The question is can Thor resist a BB scream (or whisper).
Good sense says no.Another question is can Thor do anything before BB utters a word.
Good sense says no.So how can Thor win any?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSo thor can god blast in the time it takes BB to open his mouth?
Thor can use the God Blast before that.In all seriousness though, Thor can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light. He can put up a vortex before Black Bolt screams.
Thor is one of the few people who can take what Black Bolt has to dish and keep on coming. Black Bolt even with his voice would be hard pressed to put Thor down. He could but he would be hard pressed.
Either way, I see this is an incredible fight, where both opponents are top tier but I see Thor coming out on top.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt takes mabye a hundred miliseconds for you to open your mouth and scream.MM can scream before thor can do anything but run.
He has created his vortex in moments before. Mere moments. He has a chance of doing that before Black Bolt screams. All he has to do is spin his hammer around if I recall.It's plausible.
If Black Bolt screaming from the beginning is viable, then Thor being able to use the God Blast is viable as well. From what I understand, he can do the God Blast in moments. He just speaks a great deal before using it as when he is done talking it attacks instantaneously.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIts plausible but not likely.
I know it happens very quickly but it's still plausible that Thor can create a vortex to protect himself. He just has to spin his hammer around himself, and he can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light if I recall.If he stops with all the great speeches that he usually does and just goes directly to it. It is plausible.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIts probably when hes talking that hes gathering the power to use the godblast.
All he has to do is spin Mjolnir around him and he can do that at speeds faster than light. I don't see why it isn't plausible.He just talks a great deal before he uses the God Blast from I recall. The attack happens nearly instantaneously after he stops talking. As long as the hammer is facing Black Bolt, and he doesn't give a speech describing his actions, it should be an instantaneous attack as well.
It was only the time against the Celestials that Thor uttered some long lost words.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThor isn't using the GB before BB speaks.It takes mabye a second at most to say something.
I know nothing of Thor?I certainly know a great damn more than you. He was able to spin his hammer at speeds twice as fast as light instantly after he stopped talking.
If it wasn't for his speeches he would be able to produce the God Blast instantaneously. It happens instantly after he stops talking.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus😂
Thor isn't the same person he was in his Classic incarnation. His attitude proves that.Either way, it's not as if Thor cannot take Black Bolt's scream. He certainly can and Black Bolt would be hard pressed to put him down at all.
I give this win to Thor.
Thor has no chance of taking a scream.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAnd what exactly is the null bomb?Post scans.
Thor with Odin Force > Classic ThorThor's hammer absorbs energy on a scale beyond Black Bolt's power. "If"he can absorb Black Bolt's scream, then even though his hammer's width is so small, it would absorb his scream entirely. It did it to the Null Bomb.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusPost thors best non PIS durability feat.
Based on Thor's durability feats.
Originally posted by psycho gundamSo BB's coming out in a series called war of kings?How do you guys get this info but not me?And no thors not getting 10/10.CIS on i'd give thor 5.5/10.10/10 is just ridiculous.
thor for the definite win at the moment, after war of kings comes to a close it will definitely show what blackbolt WILL do under stress so the result of this particular might change a bit. but thor is still no matter what holding the odin power to some extent, took a desintigrator shot and carried on, and killed bor, so he can't lose a majority to bb, maybe lose some depending on the bb's attitude.bb has a ton of options, but thor has at least double the offensive and defensive options bb has, which is a lot. and thor's durability is too high for anything but a scream or a series of shouts to compromise, and even that's dubious due to odin force. but you have to give bb the benefit of the doubt, in war of kings his power's will most likely be on full display.
thor 10/10. assuming bb goes balls to the walls thor 6-8/10.
Originally posted by Original SmurphSmart rhino is still an idiot.
Bloodlusted Rhino is still an idiot.
Originally posted by MekrobIts still canon.Bad writing doesn't make it non-canon or PIS.I mean if cap beat thor its PIS.But rulk would be on thors level.
No we don't. Loeb is an idiot.
Originally posted by Original SmurphWhy would he not scream when on bloodlust?He only doesn't talk for fear of killing his opponent.Bloodlusted yeah he would talk.
Touchy? Nah, just rude.CIS for BB?
If Black Bolt's bloodlusted, he may become less prone to using his myriad of extra abilities. Recently he took on Glads in h2h combat because he was pissed, and he probably could have done a number of things instead that would have been more effective.
Even with bloodlust, Black Bolt's still not gonna unleash a scream. Not against Thor, anyways. BB's never been stated to have screamed in his entire canon career. I doubt he'll start now.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWouldn't the god blast kill BB?I won't deny that a direct hit will kill him.But a scream will kill thor too.
Speak? That is a possibility.Are you suggesting that Thor cannot do the God Blast or something along those lines?
I highly doubt that. Classic Thor rarely used it, and Current Thor had only one challenge, and that was Bor, since his resurrection.
Thor's brand new attitude shows that he is wiser, and less arrogant, but more willing to do what is necessary. In my opinion it is more likely he will utilize his exotic power set, and use the power at his disposal such as the Odin Force more so than before.
Thor using the God Blast, is a valid option.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusA single hammer throw isn't KOing BB.Its gonna hurt him but not KO him.
I was asking to clarify.Who ever said that?
If Thor put his power in his hammer, and whips it at Black Bolt at faster than light speeds(Desak the Destroyer style.), it would be a quick win but that isn't likely. Probably not before Black Bolt can speak.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG01: City buster
Hmmm. How would you all rate these attacks:1) Black Bolt's whisper.
2) Black Bolt's spoken word.
3) Destroyer's disintegration beam.
4) Bor's unleashed godpower.
Originally posted by Starscream MExactly.BB was stated to be able to fly up to 500 MPH(but thats in a handbook that I have found multiple mistakes in).
has thor ever used godblast against a target as fast and mobile as Blackbolt?iirc, his only instances of godblast were against generally stationary targets
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Wouldn't the god blast kill BB?I won't deny that a direct hit will kill him.But a scream will kill thor too. A single hammer throw isn't KOing BB.Its gonna hurt him but not KO him. 1: City buster
2: Could probably level manhattan.
3: Very powerful.Stronger then a whisper and possibly talk but not scream.
4:Wish I knew who bor was. Exactly.BB was stated to be able to fly up to 500 MPH(but thats in a handbook that I have found multiple mistakes in).
the destroyers disintegration beam is probably a hundred times more powerful than a scream.
Bor is a skyfather.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusDidn't the godblast not even faze juggarnaut?
While extremely weakened, and in turn his God Blast (It was a narrow beam instead of the powerful force that encompassed once such as Galactus.), he was able to hit a charging Juggernaut, if I recall.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusOr on the forums in class? 🤨
I would double check but I'm in class right now.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThat third scan isn't a light speed blast.When pheniox fires it thor is behind someone and when it reaches them he is in front.Not even near light speed.
Thor can react [b]and act in between microseconds.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsMicroSecond.jpgThor can react and act in the space of one and one fifth of a second.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesShockwave.jpgThor can react and act fast enough to defend from a psychic blast from Phoenix. Telepathy in comics is traditionally instantaneous as stated. Speed of thought and all. This is a faster than light reaction feat. Thor's arms were down at his side after the blast was fired.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRachelPhoenix2.jpgDon't give me this bullshit that Thor can't react and act at extreme speeds.
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Uhuh.
And since I know you love numbers and math so much, I've taken the liberty to show you what's readily available to you in a few clicks.
Thanks ODG. It's way too late to write all that.
From zero to twice the speed of light in a panel. Without C.I.S. Thor won't make any large speeches.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SpinsMjolnir2xlight.jpgMjolnir can create barriers on it it's own instantaneously.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DeflectsOdinInfinityAttack.jpgAgain.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesVortexHuman.jpgMjolnir can whirl around opponents at the speed of light instantly as well.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsGrowingMan5.jpgThor creates a barrier around himself instantly once again.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/Mjolnir95.jpgMjolnir was thrown to the edge of the Galaxy and it returned to Thor. All of this happened in the span of 60 seconds. If it needs any time to accelerate, it's minimal.
In conclusion, GTFO out of here with this acceleration bullshit.
Translation:
"Moan, Moan, Moan."
I don't care what original rules this forum had. The current ones in place don't support your stupidity. So either oblige by them or hit the road.
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And 😂 at you counting instances that Thor's created vortexes in. You clearly don't read Thor comics.
The dumbest shit alive? The Irony. This is coming from the same nut job who came up with "Combo to KO!"
I'm going to bed. I have to wake at 9 to go Niagara Falls for Canada Day. [/B]
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusLike?I refuse to believe thor can take his scream and still be conscious or he will be dead.
It's not necessary. Worst case scenario, Thor tanks his scream. His tanked a lot worse.
Originally posted by BattleMageWell his voice travels at the speed of sound...if hes close enough no.Even then the max I see him absorbing is a whisper.
Can Thor's hammer obsorbe a full on sceam?
Originally posted by grimifyNon CIS i'll agree to that.Thor 5.5/10.
Thor wins, Black Bolt puts up a great fight, though.
Originally posted by amnesiaThor isn't taking a scream.Post thors best non PIS durability feat.
Thor would survive.Thor is faster, stronger and more versatile.
Originally posted by amnesiaI don't see him taking a scream.And define "planet busting attacks".Because whenever a planet is busted it never seems to be even near the size of earth.
Superman and Thor can take planet busting attacks.
Originally posted by iceman24567Just felt like responding...
Stop replying to Kris because he can't even defend his stance on the subject
Originally posted by iceman24567No.
👆 Both would likely tank the scream
Originally posted by iceman24567I've stopped
Stop replying to Kris because he can't even defend his stance on the subject
Originally posted by amnesiaHow strong is thors shield?No he wouldn't survive a scream.
BB's scream isn't touching Thor through the shield mjolnir creates.And yes he would survive a scream.
Originally posted by amnesiaSo the disintigration beam could destroy a few planets?
the destroyers disintegration beam is probably a hundred times more powerful than a scream.Bor is a skyfather.
