Black Bolt vs Thor

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus23 pages

Originally posted by Mekrob
How Thor can do a 5 second Godblast before BB can open his mouth.

Or how just because Thor can swing his hammer at lightspeeds, that he can create a vortex to defend (which his vortex's take more time than screams).

What Thor can do however, is put his hammer straight out to defend it, or swing it around like he does to block bullets. He's not doing anything fancy before BB screams... that's ridicerous.

He has created his vortex in moments before. Mere moments. He has a chance of doing that before Black Bolt screams. All he has to do is spin his hammer around if I recall.

It's plausible.

If Black Bolt screaming from the beginning is viable, then Thor being able to use the God Blast is viable as well. From what I understand, he can do the God Blast in moments. He just speaks a great deal before using it as when he is done talking it attacks instantaneously.

Clock how long it takes you to open your mouth and yell.

Unless you have some physical or mental defect, it should be a fraction of a second.

Originally posted by Mekrob
Well... nevermind.

Why do you argue about things you have no understanding of, or have never seen before?

I must have somewhere missed that Thor has taken a direct blast from Destroyer. If so then please show me so that my ignorance can end.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He has created his vortex in moments before. Mere moments. He has a chance of doing that before Black Bolt screams.
how long do you define 'mere moments'?

and how long do you think it takes for black bolt to open his mouth?

Originally posted by Mindset
Clock how long it takes you to open your mouth and yell.

Unless you have some physical or mental defect, it should be a fraction of a second.

I know it happens very quickly but it's still plausible that Thor can create a vortex to protect himself. He just has to spin his hammer around himself, and he can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light if I recall.

If he stops with all the great speeches that he usually does and just goes directly to it. It is plausible.

Originally posted by h1a8
I must have somewhere missed that Thor has taken a direct blast from Destroyer. If so then please show me so that my ignorance can end.

It happened in "Thor Vol.3 #5".

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He has created his vortex in moments before. Mere moments. He has a chance of doing that before Black Bolt screams. All he has to do is spin his hammer around if I recall.

It's plausible.

If Black Bolt screaming from the beginning is viable, then Thor being able to use the God Blast is viable as well. From what I understand, he can do the God Blast in moments. He just speaks a great deal before using it as when he is done talking it attacks instantaneously.

MOMENTS!
lol, that's a long time for something quicker than a scream.

He has to focus to use the Godblast...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know it happens very quickly but it's still plausible that Thor can create a vortex to protect himself. He just has to spin his hammer around himself, and he can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light if I recall.

If he stops with all the great speeches that he usually does and just goes directly to it. It is plausible.

And then Thor creates a light duplicate, before BB screams.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor can use the God Blast before that.

In all seriousness though, Thor can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light. He can put up a vortex before Black Bolt screams.

Thor is one of the few people who can take what Black Bolt has to dish and keep on coming. Black Bolt even with his voice would be hard pressed to put Thor down. He could but he would be hard pressed.

Either way, I see this is an incredible fight, where both opponents are top tier but I see Thor coming out on top.

Then you know nothing of Thor. True he can whirl the hammer faster than light (probably speed of light since can't time travel anymore) but it takes him a long time to build up enough speed to do this. Thor has never in his entire history executed a God blast, vortex, or anything else that is super exotic before someone can utter a word.

Originally posted by h1a8
I must have somewhere missed that Thor has taken a direct blast from Destroyer. If so then please show me so that my ignorance can end.
I wouldn't have to show you the scan though, if you have ever even glanced at the battle.

You're arguing about things you have no knowledge of, and demanding everyone to prove everything they say. Do some damn research before you start typing. Everyone else does.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Thor vs the Destroyer



Also, the above battle is exactly what I was saying before of what Thor could do. He's not creating anything fancy, but he can deflect the attacks.
An actual wind vortex that he creates takes a lot longer than simply spinning his hammer would.

Originally posted by Mekrob
MOMENTS!
lol, that's a long time for something quicker than a scream.

He has to focus to use the Godblast...

All he has to do is spin Mjolnir around him and he can do that at speeds faster than light. I don't see why it isn't plausible.

He just talks a great deal before he uses the God Blast from I recall. The attack happens nearly instantaneously after he stops talking. As long as the hammer is facing Black Bolt, and he doesn't give a speech describing his actions, it should be an instantaneous attack as well.

It was only the time against the Celestials that Thor uttered some long lost words.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then you know nothing of Thor. True he can whirl the hammer faster than light (probably speed of light since can't time travel anymore) but it takes him a long time to build up enough speed to do this. Thor has never in his entire history executed a God blast, vortex, or anything else that is super exotic before someone can utter a word.

I know nothing of Thor?

I certainly know a great damn more than you. He was able to spin his hammer at speeds twice as fast as light instantly after he stopped talking.

If it wasn't for his speeches he would be able to produce the God Blast instantaneously. It happens instantly after he stops talking.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If it wasn't for his speeches he would be able to produce the God Blast instantaneously. It happens instantly after he stops talking.

or perhaps, just perhaps, he has an opportunity to speak because the godblast requires some charge up?!

oh, that can't possibly be it!

Originally posted by Starscream M
or perhaps, just perhaps, he has an opportunity to speak because the godblast requires some charge up?!

oh, that can't possibly be it!

Have you actually read the comics where he does the God Blast?

After his description of his actions, it happens instantaneously. Either way, it's not as if it's the only thing Thor can do to defend himself so this is pointless.

Unbelievably, i have to agree with Starscream here. Thor cant create a fancy vortex befoe BB screams. his best bet would be to do his hammer spinning thing. (assuming that works)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
All he has to do is spin Mjolnir around him and he can do that at speeds faster than light. I don't see why it isn't plausible.

He just talks a great deal before he uses the God Blast from I recall. The attack happens nearly instantaneously after he stops talking. As long as the hammer is facing Black Bolt, and he doesn't give a speech describing his actions, it should be an instantaneous attack as well.

It was only the time against the Celestials that Thor uttered some long lost words.

Because when he creates vortex's it takes longer than opening your mouth and screaming. 😬

He has to focus first, and he has to become one with his hammer...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_vol2-514-012-32-33.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_vol2-514-012-34.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg

This one especially:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial2.jpg

Not looking for the Juggy one, but I know that one took a while too.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Unbelievably, i have to agree with Starscream here. Thor cant create a fancy vortex befoe BB screams. his best bet would be to do his hammer spinning thing. (assuming that works)

Why wouldn't hammer spin work?

Vortex doesn't take long either.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Have you actually read the comics where he does the God Blast?
have you? because it's pretty clear to anyone who has read any of the godblast scans that it's nowhere near 'instantaneous'.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Why wouldn't hammer spin work?

Vortex doesn't take long either.

I never said it wouldnt work. Now that i think about it, it should work as ive seen thor defelct even air waves with his hammer spinning. I was just leaving room for argument.

and yes the vortex doesnt take that long but he would definitely take more damage than neccesary if he goes for that first. Hammer spin will suffice.

Originally posted by Mekrob
Because when he creates vortex's it takes longer than opening your mouth and screaming. 😬

He has to focus first, and he has to become one with his hammer...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_vol2-514-012-32-33.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_vol2-514-012-34.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg

This one especially:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial2.jpg

Not looking for the Juggy one, but I know that one took a while too.

Again, he talks a great deal before he uses it.

If he stopped talking, and just used the attack, it should happen incredibly quickly.

Either way, like I said earlier in this thread, the Vortex should be his main defensive weapon and like I said earlier against Starscream, with the ability to create vortex's, the execution time of all his attacks, shouldn't be a problem.

The God Blast should still be a viable attack as it seems he doesn't need to constantly spin his hammer to keep it up. Meaning he can stop spinning and then use the God Blast.

Either way...