Originally posted by Mekrob
I wouldn't have to show you the scan though, if you have ever even glanced at the battle.You're arguing about things you have no knowledge of, and demanding everyone to prove everything they say. Do some damn research before you start typing. Everyone else does.
Also, the above battle is exactly what I was saying before of what Thor could do. He's not creating anything fancy, but he can deflect the attacks.
An actual wind vortex that he creates takes a lot longer than simply spinning his hammer would.
That scan is bs. It contradicts the majority of comics. Therefore it is PIS. A destroyers blast can and will disintegrate Thor on contact. Unless that wasn't the Destroyer's disintegrating beam but rather a less powerful one.
The Destroyer had telegraphed the attack (his visor gleamed). This gave Thor time to prepare to swing his hammer. Mjolnir didn't block the attack but rather absorbed it. This is because a simple blast from the Destroy can split the hammer easily. And that would make comics contradict themselves. Thus he didn't swing it faster than light as you thought but rather was creating a field to absorb the attack.
BB's scream takes on a larger area. So even if Thor does manage to spin his hammer before the voice reaches him then it wouldn't stop all the surrounding voice.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusDid you miss how he was describing what exactly he does?
Again, he talks a great deal before he uses it.If he stopped talking, and just used the attack, it should happen incredibly quickly.
Either way, like I said earlier in this thread, the Vortex should be his main defensive weapon and like I said earlier against Starscream, with the ability to create vortex's, the execution time of all his attacks, shouldn't be a problem.
The God Blast should still be a viable attack as it seems he doesn't need to constantly spin his hammer to keep it up. Meaning he can stop spinning and then use the God Blast.
Either way...
No, because he has to become with his hammer first... it's not like he simply points and fires it.
Because that's what Thor always does... use a vortex. But it is, because it doesn't happen nearly as fast as screaming.
The Godblast is never a viable attack. It takes time to do, and he has to unite with his hammer... even said to be agonizing as well.
Fancy attacks certainly are faster than opening your mouth. As well as opening his mouth doesn't take away his ability to move slightly to the left...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAlso, ignoring everything that surrounds the G-blast, did you miss where CIS was in effect on the forum?
If he stopped talking so much, and just used the attack, it would be a valid form of attack.
Originally posted by h1a8Right, you didn't see the scan before I showed it to you. All I proved was that you argue about things you know nothing about.
That scan is bs. It contradicts the majority of comics. Therefore it is PIS. A destroyers blast can and will disintegrate Thor on contact. Unless that wasn't the Destroyer's disintegrating beam but rather a less powerful one.The Destroyer had telegraphed the attack (his visor gleamed). This gave Thor time to prepare to swing his hammer. Mjolnir didn't block the attack but rather absorbed it. This is because a simple blast from the Destroy can split the hammer easily. And that would make comics contradict themselves. Thus he didn't swing it faster than light as you thought but rather was creating a field to absorb the attack.
BB's scream takes on a larger area. So even if Thor does manage to spin his hammer before the voice reaches him then it wouldn't stop all the surrounding voice.
Also, to answer this post (I only quickly glanced over the first part, and am not going to re-read anything...), Thor is more powerful. It contradicts nothing.
Originally posted by Mekrob
Did you miss how he was describing what exactly he does?No, because he has to become with his hammer first... it's not like he simply points and fires it.
Because that's what Thor always does... use a vortex. But it is, because it doesn't happen nearly as fast as screaming.
The Godblast is never a viable attack. It takes time to do, and he has to unite with his hammer... even said to be agonizing as well.
Fancy attacks certainly are faster than opening your mouth. As well as opening his mouth doesn't take away his ability to move slightly to the left...
Inside his Vortex, the God Blast would be a viable attack as he would have all the time he wants.
He can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light and has shown to do it instantly as he has shown. He completely covered himself in a vortex instantly. It's a valid form of defense.
Originally posted by Mekrob
Also, ignoring everything that surrounds the G-blast, did you miss where CIS was in effect on the forum?
Thor isn't the same person he was in his Classic incarnation. His attitude proves that.
Either way, it's not as if Thor cannot take Black Bolt's scream. He certainly can and Black Bolt would be hard pressed to put him down at all.
I give this win to Thor.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeYes.
Do you know how fast the godblast travels?I don't.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusInside his vortex? It was describing that he actually builds up speed faster and faster to create the shield vortex to encompass the 1/5 universe destroying blast...
Inside his Vortex, the God Blast would be a viable attack as he would have all the time he wants.He can spin his hammer at speeds faster than light and has shown to do it instantly as he has shown. He completely covered himself in a vortex instantly. It's a valid form of defense.
Right... anyway, CIS is on.
Before it gets said, there's a difference between attacks that Thor has to concentrate on and never creates, and BB simply opening his mouth more of an attack he uses regularly.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusRight... his current incarnation's attitude has never created a Godblast, or a mystical vortex.
Thor isn't the same person he was in his Classic incarnation. His attitude proves that.Either way, it's not as if Thor cannot take Black Bolt's scream. He certainly can and Black Bolt would be hard pressed to put him down at all.
I give this win to Thor.
OK. I never said anything about that, or who wins.
Originally posted by Mekrob
Inside his vortex? It was describing that he actually builds up speed faster and faster to create the shield vortex to encompass the 1/5 universe destroying blast...
At least I'm glad we have Thor now taking cover so he can use his Godblast... as well as a more powerful Thor using methods that he would never use to defeat Black Bolt. Guess Black Bolt is pretty tuff.
Thor has created a vortex around himself instantly in the past and did while spinning his hammer at speeds twice the speed of light and he did from the get go.
Black Bolt is pretty tough but Thor is tougher.
Originally posted by Mekrob
Before it gets said, there's a difference between attacks that Thor has to concentrate on and never creates, and BB simply opening his mouth more of an attack he uses regularly.
Okay then.
thor for the definite win at the moment, after war of kings comes to a close it will definitely show what blackbolt WILL do under stress so the result of this particular might change a bit. but thor is still no matter what holding the odin power to some extent, took a desintigrator shot and carried on, and killed bor, so he can't lose a majority to bb, maybe lose some depending on the bb's attitude.
bb has a ton of options, but thor has at least double the offensive and defensive options bb has, which is a lot. and thor's durability is too high for anything but a scream or a series of shouts to compromise, and even that's dubious due to odin force. but you have to give bb the benefit of the doubt, in war of kings his power's will most likely be on full display.
thor 10/10. assuming bb goes balls to the walls thor 6-8/10.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWhat instance? Would this be when he teleports?
Thor has created a vortex around himself instantly in the past and did while spinning his hammer at speeds twice the speed of light and he did from the get go.Black Bolt is pretty tough but Thor is tougher.
Okay then.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYa, and hasn't shown the attitude to create a Godblast, or a vortex. Irrelevant.
His current incarnation has had an attitude change compared to his classic incarnation. He talks less and kicks ass more.
Originally posted by psycho gundamthere isn't enough showings of thor's durability lately to put him that high.
and thor's durability is too high for anything but a scream or a series of shouts to compromise, and even that's dubious due to odin force.
sure, taking the destroyer blast was impressive, but then he was beaten badly by Rulk.
