Black Bolt vs Thor

yeah, no CIS and bloodlusted are totally different things.

bloodlusted just means...basically they are just that, out for blood. they might kill their opponent in rage without even intending to do so, it just happens due to a savage beating. most of the time, bloodlusted characters fight sloppier than normal, the only thing is that they won't stop pounding/slashing you till your ground beef.

CIS off is just the character using their abilities and fighting like they were fighting game characters controlled by a logical person, personalities are thrown to the wayside since a win asap is the goal.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Bloodlusted Rhino is still an idiot.

bloodlusting rhino likely wouldnt even change his tactics much, if at all

whereas bloodlusting BB and thor would likely change their fighting options greatly

Originally posted by Starscream M
sure, taking the destroyer blast was impressive, but then he was beaten badly by Rulk.

rulk > bor. what have you been reading?

Originally posted by Mekrob
And then you realize that Loeb is an idiot. Doesn't count.

Originally posted by Mekrob
Which means they're trying to kill each other... and likely taking away from the abilities they use in a clear mind.

bloodlust kind of screws with cis though

quote: (post) Originally posted by Naija boy CIS isnt on in this match is it? I mean isnt it bloodlusted? Bloodlusted Rhino is still an idiot.

bloodlusted just means...basically they are just that, out for blood. they might kill their opponent in rage without even intending to do so, it just happens due to a savage beating. most of the time, bloodlusted characters fight sloppier than normal, the only thing is that they won't stop pounding/slashing you till your ground beef. CIS off is just the character using their abilities and fighting like they were fighting game characters controlled by a logical person, personalities are thrown to the wayside since a win asap is the goal.

ORiginally i thought this as well but in the MM vs WWH thread i asked Bada

So does being bloodlusted mean that we then argue powersets? I thought it meant that the characters would go for the kill using the most lethal tactics they have been shown to use in comics. I didnt know it referred to characters using outrageous strategies which they would never use in comics regardless of their mental state.

and he answered

Originally posted by Badabing
If the thread starter states bloodlust, then all bets are off. If not then it falls back to in character.

Originally posted by Starscream M
loeb may be an idiot, but rulk beating thor still happened. until the new thor gets more durability feats so that we can either accept or dismiss the rulk incident as PIS, we have to put it into consideration when discussing thor's durability.

Originally posted by Mekrob
No we don't. Loeb is an idiot.

That's what I thought.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how is that relevant to thor or bb?

bloodlusting rhino likely wouldnt even change his tactics much, if at all

whereas bloodlusting BB and thor would likely change their fighting options greatly

They're still stupid.

I would have thought that was obvious, but I forgot you were still posting in this thread. My apologies.

cis still impairs bloodlust imo.

when thor was in warrior madness mode, he was just attacking anything that moved, and he was just slugging it out and using electrical attacks.

it's like an injured beast fighting, not tacticle at all.

the only exeptiones imo are batman, punisher and other guys who can appearantly focus their rage without going totally berserk. those guys even when totaly enraged can still fight just as they could before, only just that more damaging.

shit, punisher's been bloodlusted since the seventies.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
The point is that Character Induced Stupidity doesn't go away just because someone's mad.

They're still stupid.

I would have thought that was obvious, but I forgot you were still posting in this thread. My apologies.

so what is an example of CIS for BB?

I understood CIS as meaning BB wouldn't normally unleash his more powerful attacks (ie scream) because he prefers nonmortal combat...but with bloodlust on, even his deadliest attacks become viable options at battle's start.

^ not really, but i'll let smurph tackle that one.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
cis still impairs bloodlust imo.

when thor was in warrior madness mode, he was just attacking anything that moved, and he was just slugging it out and using electrical attacks.

warrior madness is a different state of mind whereas bloodlust simply means one's moral barriers are gone.

hence, bloodlust would make no difference on a character like Doomsday since he goes for the kill anyways whereas it would impact a character like Superman, who normally holds back for the sake of not killing or seriously injuring his opponent.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ not really, but i'll let smurph tackle that one.

warrior madness is the asgardian name for bloodlust. it's when an asgardian loses themselves in the throws of battle, and they stop holding back their strength.

Originally posted by Starscream M
whoa...touchy aren't we?

so what is an example of CIS for BB?

I understood CIS as meaning BB wouldn't normally unleash his more powerful attacks (ie scream) because he prefers nonmortal combat...but with bloodlust on, even his deadliest attacks become viable options at battle's start.

CIS for BB?

If Black Bolt's bloodlusted, he may become less prone to using his myriad of extra abilities. Recently he took on Glads in h2h combat because he was pissed, and he probably could have done a number of things instead that would have been more effective.

Even with bloodlust, Black Bolt's still not gonna unleash a scream. Not against Thor, anyways. BB's never been stated to have screamed in his entire canon career. I doubt he'll start now.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
warrior madness is the asgardian name for bloodlust. it's when an asgardian loses themselves in the throws of battle, and they stop holding back their strength.

For example, when Wolverine goes berserker, he is in bloodlust mode.

But if in a Wolverine thread on KMC, we stipulate him to be bloodlusted...that doesn't mean we are stipulating him to be in berserker rage mode.

Bloodlust simply means that a character has no qualms about killing when used in a versus thread.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Touchy? Nah, just rude.

CIS for BB?

If Black Bolt's bloodlusted, he may become less prone to using his myriad of extra abilities. Recently he took on Glads in h2h combat because he was pissed, and he probably could have done a number of things instead that would have been more effective.

Even with bloodlust, Black Bolt's still not gonna unleash a scream. Not against Thor, anyways. BB's never been stated to have screamed in his entire canon career. I doubt he'll start now.

I took bloodlust not necessarily to imply combatants are actually blind with rage during the fight, but just that their usual qualms for holding back are removed.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, I guess my understanding of bloodlust differs from yours

I took bloodlust not necessarily to imply combatants are actually blind with rage during the fight, but just that their usual qualms for holding back are removed.

Thor with bloodlust isn't going to stark breaking out the hundreds of powers he's been shown to have just because he's now not holding back.

CIS and Bloodlust are not mutually exclusive.