Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I liked Independence day. It had some corny moments, but I thought it was good.
Me too. Siskel and Ebert gave it a shitty score. They whined about a dog fight in the Grand Canyon being ridiculous because these aliens had super technology and a dog fight was absurd. And I think it is absurd that they assume that an alien species will be far far superior to our technologies in every category compared to humans. They obviously don't know what an anthropomorphism is, much less being guilty of characterizing everything to an anthropomorphic standard...even in a fictional movie about aliens.
I'm quite sure there is some alien species out there that would laugh at how retardedly crude our energy technologies are while our media interfaces are very advanced.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
I don't understand how anyone can possibly hate Independence Day.That's the problem with America. We praise bullshit like "There Will be Blood" and "No County for Old Men", but hate on good quality movies like ID4 and Punisher: Warzone?
Ridiculous.
😂 You meant that ironically, right?
You cant have meant it seriously, as Im certain you have an IQ of more than five.
Now I've spoke up for ID4's fine points (the beginning, basically) but
"There will be blood" and "No Country" knock ID4 into the bargain bin, where it (comparitively) belongs, man.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
😂 You meant that ironically, right?
You cant have meant it seriously, as Im certain you have an IQ of more than five.Now I've spoke up for ID4's fine points (the beginning, basically) but
"There will be blood" and "No Country" knock ID4 into the bargain bin, where it (comparitively) belongs, man.
I didn't see "There Will Be Blood."
I did so "No Country for Old Men" and it was satisfying. However, I thought it failed in many places. It felt as though the last 30 minutes or so was done very hastily. In addition, it felt like the writer/direct were trying to hard at metaphor that it created a too much of two "genres" in the movie. I can't articulate what I'm meaning...but, it looks like they messed up the last third of the movie and missed the boat. That may have been the intention all along, and they may have been going somewhere else with the interpretation, but it just fell apart. The story kept building and building. It was utterly fascinating, every moment that Javier did on screen. (I loved just about every moment with him on the screen. It was very fun in a sick kind of way.), but I felt his ending scene with a certain someone didn't play out in dialogue very well and a certain wife's dialogue seemed much to intelligent (meaning, out of character) to fit right. Of course, plenty of time had passed, it appeared, and maybe the writer was trying to convey that this lady had thought long and hard about it beforehand, but it seemed like they were trying to hard while exploring the Sheriff's metaphor.)
Still, I give it a 6 out of 10. I love it when the bad guy wins.
It matches the pace/events of the book apparrently, the Coens were just being authentic, is what I hear.
People dont fit right in life too.
Refreshing to see a non dumb-bi*ch in place of the generic wife/girlfriend in movies, if you ask me, besides I thought it made the end work well.
Her accent work was amazing, see her in "Trainspotting" in her natural accent, to see what I mean.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It matches the pace/events of the book apparrently, the Coens were just being authentic, is what I hear.People dont fit right in life too.
Refreshing to see a non dumb-bi*ch in place of the generic wife/girlfriend in movies, if you ask me, besides I thought it made the end work well.
Her accent work was amazing, see her in "Trainspotting" in her natural accent, to see what I mean.
If that's the case, then I bump the movie up to an 8 out of 10. The whole major dilemma with the Sheriff makes much more sense if it was originally a book. That type of stuff works much better in written entertainment, IMO. It can work well in movies, but not all the time.
I was talking about her being a typical "stupid southern redneck wife", and then all of a sudden being an expert police negotiator and superbly executing dialogue with a potential killer. However, like I said, they may have given that to her because she had time to think about it. She even said, "I knew you'd eventually come." I then I lol'd. 😐 LOL, but no, really. I thought it was out of character, relative to her previous lines.
I did not like that fact the bad guy got to beat everyone. I really liked that he did win...but come on, they should have let mr. slick pants live. The really really really smart guys shouldn't get offed like that. It's...like a crime or something. lol
Oh I see. 🙂 Fair play on the dialogue.
Well Chigur didnt beat everyone, the gang killed the main man and got pretty messed up in that car crash too..
The whole film is a study of death and the way it permeates or lives, and how do we react when faced with it...?
Mr.Slick tries fooling it/escaping it, Woody Harrelson tries to reason with it, the wife tells "it up yours" and refuses to play its game and attempts to take control, and Tommy Lee Jones fears it etc and
Chigur is the main allegory for death.
And Slick's death was an example of the unexpectedness and how it sideblinds you in real life.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Punisher: Warzone is a future classic. 🙁
Originally posted by Robtard
I liked the scene right before that, where he literally punched in said argumentative *******'s son's face in.You paid to watch that shit movie though? lol.
Right. He literally punched his face in. 😄 People say it...but he actually did it. (In the movie.)
Yeah..it was....a little pathetic. There were great parts about it, but I gave it a 4 out of 10.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
All I am saying is that if a lowly cable TV guy here on Earth can figure out how to lower their shields, surely the Empire has a mind or two that will figure it out also.And we are forgetting that the Empire has shields too. How will the ID4 fleet destroy the second Death Star, or even a star destroyer? We also dont even know if the ID4 landing craft's shields can survive one or even multiple death star blasts. We see the ID4 ships deflecting weapons from OUR universe, NOT plasma blasts and planet destroying blasts.
Really!? You guys asking if the empire ever develop a weapon to lower shields!!??
Well, the answer is yes. The empire had a weapon able not only to lower enemy's shields but to neutralize entire ships. The only problem is that at that time the Empire was called the Separatists. That was back then at the Clone wars. The name of the weapon was the Malevolence, which actually was a cruiser and General Greivous flag ship.
The malevolence was able to not only to neutralize Venator type ships, but also to make them useless.
So, going back to the question. The Empire would win. If they were able to develop such a weapon in the clone wars (10-30 years before the Empire was formed) I am pretty sure they can make it once again.
Regarding the topic. I've already seen Independence day 2, and I am well informed on the Star Wars story and movies.
Considering what i saw in the movie independence day, and the information I know about Star Wars, I am pretty confidence to say that the Empire would definetly win. Both ships have shield, so this factor cannot be quite used to determine which one would win. But, I know the Empires arsenal, and they got enough firepower to destroy words without even having to invade them. On the other hand, the aliens in ID had to dock their mothership in the world, and destroy their core in order to 'destroy' this, whereas the Empire just needed to shoot a single blast with the death star to erradicate all life on the planet.
In conclusion, the Empire has more probabilities of winning.