Originally posted by HewhoknowsallVader's demonstrated the ability to Force choke someone he has direct communication with. Sidious 66 has told us before that he choked Xizor I think it was from the other side of the galaxy. And in Galactic Battlegrounds he choked and killed the governor of Reytha, Antes Beladar despite the man not being present (you hear his death rattle over the comlink).
So does Obama speaking on TV make him vulnerable to the force? Is there something about TVs that makes anybody "on" them vulnerable to being choked by Vader? It must be so, or otherwise he wouldn't just choked Luke when he was in his X-wing.
Originally posted by radu1234I doubt Vader's that incompetent. Anakin was a brilliant mechanic, he has quite a bit of skill and knowledge of a galaxy's worth of alien technology that far exceeds our basic television sets. He'll recognize it as a screen, read the simple "power" button, and I think he'll know what "channel" and "volume" mean.
how would he know how to use the remote ? j/kThat considering he atked a city. But how would he know what a TV is and look for it . It's kinda far fetched, but it might work with some luck...maybe he accidentaly sees some turned on TV's in a store a kills the guy in the monkey suit >.>
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Vader's demonstrated the ability to Force choke someone he has direct communication with. Sidious 66 has told us before that he choked Xizor I think it was from the other side of the galaxy. And in Galactic Battlegrounds he choked and killed the governor of Reytha, Antes Beladar despite the man not being present (you hear his death rattle over the comlink).
So then this IS a spite...only against Earth, because Vader could just call a meeting w/all of the world's leaders for "negotiations" and then just choke all of them.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Your thread, simply enable the Negotiations option.
I never said that negotiations WEREN'T allowed, and since this is war diplomacy is very important so therefore it is assumed to be allowed.
And if the Empire wins that easily, then why did you blame me and yell at me and hate me for making this a spite (or, as you say, "not admitting that this is a spite and being too stubborn"😉?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I never said that negotiations WEREN'T allowed, and since this is war diplomacy is very important so therefore it is assumed to be allowed.And if the Empire wins that easily, then why did you blame me and yell at me and hate me for making this a spite (or, as you say, "not admitting that this is a spite and being too stubborn"😉?
btw... Either you or Radu said that the earthlings would keep on fighting, even without their leaders.
so the empire doesn't win by killing of world leaders, as I had pointed out earlier
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallWhat are you talking? the Empire doesn't win here.
I never said that negotiations WEREN'T allowed, and since this is war diplomacy is very important so therefore it is assumed to be allowed.And if the Empire wins that easily, then why did you blame me and yell at me and hate me for making this a spite (or, as you say, "not admitting that this is a spite and being too stubborn"😉?
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallDon't be glib. Vader can't stretch his will over 6.5 billion people. Especially if he can't see them all. He only has so many eyes.
But can't Vader just choke all of us?Or he could modify google earth so that it also shows people and then take a look at the globe on a computer, thus choking everyone.
This would fail. No world leader would accept direct negociations with an invading force, only through representatives.
And even if this happened via telecomunication(considering the leaders would actually accept direct negociations this way), as soon as someone would start to choke, they would intrerupt the transmission and take everybody out of there.
And third, if the leader of a nation dies, the vice-president, prime-minister, secretary of state, w/e would take over until a new "head" is chosen.
This things are though over already because, during a war, the leader of the fighting nation could be assasinated, so everybody has a back-up plan.
It wont work, however you take it, the Empire loses. Sry Hewh.
Originally posted by radu1234
K, in all of the battle scenarios, we would win because of number superiority and not so lame weaponry.But what if they actually used their heads rather than their weapons?mainly Vader use his head.
Scenario 1: He lands right on top of the white house. He easly gets to the president with mind tricks:
Vader:"I'm not here!"
Security dude 1:"Ur not here. *@-|* " .
Security dude 2:"Who are you talking to ? *@-|* "Then he mind tricks the president to give orders(and the codes) to shot all the nuclear rockets they have at the entire world(hit the largest cities of the world) except Russia and China in... the time it takes him to get to Moscow with a passanger plane(he mind tricks the airport security into letting him pass). He gets to Moscow(when he gets there, US starts shooting...), to the prime minister again through mind tricks all the way and mind tricks him into shooting Russias entire nuclear arsenal at the whole world except China and US. (again at the worlds major cities)
Everybody will think the 2 of them are together and want to take over the world...
In the meantime the rest of Vaders forces will land somewhere in China(3rd nuclear power) and Vader again will take a plane from Russia to China.
And the nuclear bombardment starts. The entire world will turn against US and Russia and start a world war thinking they made a pact and try to take over the world while the 2 still hate each other and wont help each other. Vader, that got to China mind tricks Chinas president into staying neutral. After the war ends, with massive dmg over the entire world, China ...with Vader as underground ruler takes over the remaining world. Nobody will dare atk China when they're neutral cause nobody will want to have to face the 3rd most powerful nuclear country along with what they already have to face. The basic idea is that everything will start suddenly and end when all the nukes are shot... just as sudden creating a total chaos in which nobody knows what actually happened. About 80% of the planet will be in ruins and China will easly take over whats left...
Thats how Vader,using his brain would be able to defeat us
Unless you can find something to bring down this scenario(it's kinda exagerated, but possible), this is the Empire's only chance.
PS: It's late so i'm off to sleep now, i'll be checking the thread again in like ... 12 hours (my sleep time when nobody wakes me up 😛 ). Good night !