Scathan vs. Tiamut

I didn't write the book good friend

Two brothers did

Marvel: The End to me is still silly to believe. But it happened. Just like Sue 'killing' Exitar

The Brothers tale have the Fulcrum All knowing and All powerful. Who else is he. TOAA has appeared in FF and Spider-Man(homeless man)
Seems now as the Fulcrum. woot

Now u know, I am a Celestial fan and its a good day when the book came out 😄

And the whole Eternity created the Celestials through mediation been debunked just as Starlin had Thanos used the Heart to kill Ziran. The Brothers wrote Celestials cannot be killed only contained

Its always up to the writers and editors

Tiamut = The Fulcrum will be talked about for years. Mystery again only adds to the Celestials mystique

Good Morning and goodnite. I'll read ur response when I get to work

Originally posted by Xplosive
If Fulcrum would be TOAA, then he wouldn't say such nonsense for Tiamut to rival his own power. No way.

Only power to say it was TOAA within the MU and that was Thanos with THOTI and we know what Thanos was doing with it.

I haven't seen close doing for Tiamut to win against Scathan. I have to see more from him to assume that he can defeat Scathan and to live up to words.

I read the line about him being 'proven a power equal to my own' as him finally gaining his own free will and conscience, and in that sense he had the same power (ability) as TOAA. Not that he's equal in power to TOAA. Otherwise, why would he have needed help in dealing with the Horde?

Anyway, probably Scathan. Though I like Tiamut more.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I read the line about him being 'proven a power equal to my own' as him finally gaining his own free will and conscience, and in that sense he had the same power (ability) as TOAA. Not that he's equal in power to TOAA. Otherwise, why would he have needed help in dealing with the Horde?

Anyway, probably Scathan. Though I like Tiamut more.

This is exactly how I viewed what was said. He had power enough to BREAK THE BOND and thus in that respect rival the Fulcrum's power in that particular sense not in a overall power sense. I mean come on now that's like saying SS = Galactus his creator. There is no way Tiamut is equal to TOAA and we don't even know that Fulcrum is the One above all. Boasting and such has happened over and over again. I'll wait till we see who fulcrum really is but I highly doubt hes the TOAA. Lastly, again I viewed that scan gaining free will and conscience not power that is kinda silly to think it's power if it's really the TOAA

I do think the Fulcrum is TOAA. I think it was in the previous issue that Tiamut states the Fulcrum is all powerful and all knowing. And had ignored his request for assistance.

...Perhaps that was in this issue. But w/e. If a celestial talks about something being 'all powerful and all knowing' I think it should be taken seriously, considering the nature of the Celestials themselves.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I do think the Fulcrum is TOAA. I think it was in the previous issue that Tiamut states the Fulcrum is all powerful and all knowing. And had ignored his request for assistance.

...Perhaps that was in this issue. But w/e. If a celestial talks about something being 'all powerful and all knowing' I think it should be taken seriously, considering the nature of the Celestials themselves.

Yes but hasn't Eternity been given such references? Thanos with the IG was given much similar references. Shoot even Galactus has been given countless hyperbolic references. However, when they are called God's, all powerful etc etc we don't consider them the TOAA or rival "it" in power do we?

Thanos doesn't need the IG to be all powerful, Kurupt. Don't make me pimpslap you.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos doesn't need the IG to be all powerful, Kurupt. Don't make me pimpslap you.

LOL LOL. Very true my friend.

Thanos has a brain in each of his cell, and a chin that rivals no other

Originally posted by Enyalus
I read the line about him being 'proven a power equal to my own' as him finally gaining his own free will and conscience, and in that sense he had the same power (ability) as TOAA. Not that he's equal in power to TOAA. Otherwise, why would he have needed help in dealing with the Horde?

Anyway, probably Scathan. Though I like Tiamut more.

Tiamut looks way cooler, therefore, he wins. It's that simple.

woot

got scans? i'm not up to date on my celestials lol.

Originally posted by KillAll
got scans? i'm not up to date on my celestials lol.

Tiamut:

Hence my initial reply:

Originally posted by Galan007
Tiamut looks way cooler, therefore, he wins. It's that simple.

👆

Originally posted by KillAll
got scans? i'm not up to date on my celestials lol.

Its official Tiamut became new spirit of vengeance.

The scan Galan posted shows that he views Tiamut as an equal because he question him and other didn't. Well that's what I think he meant

Gaiman's run

The Fulcrum is not TOAA. (there's no proof of any kind that even alludes to this notion)

In fact, by him stating Taimut rivals him in any sense of the word certifies this.

TOAA doesn't deal with his drawings (the Omniverse and its inhabitants)
in that fashion either.

The Fulcrum is indeed obviously very powerful,
but the Fulcrum is just another drawing of TOAA's.

I came to this conclusion due to the nature of the Fulcrum's conversation with Taimut,
in comparison with TOAA's talk with the FF, Spidey and Supreme.

That is exactly my point. Fulcrum can't be the TOAA and certainly a celestial can't rival him in power. TOAA is the pen behind everything and that certainly can't be said about any celestial whether it's Tiamut or anybody. It's quite clear to me and others what Fulcrum meant was that he was equal in power because he questioned things will others didn't. That is one particular aspect of power. I see nothing to suggest that all of a sudden Tiamut can create anything or do anything it chooses. Where you guys get that from is beyond me.