silver surfer (Exiles 87) vs superman, thor, hulk, gladiator

Started by quanchi11210 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry I don't go by what characters say in comics when I know better. Glads wasn't shown to be greatly harmed to me. He seemed very much to be able to continue the fight. But nonetheless this is moot and you are avoiding the real problem here. Surfer can't stop all three at the same time. Once he's hit then it is over.
You already admitted that you didn't read the comic.

Originally posted by h1a8
Glads can still fight. Being [b]slightly blistered (this is a correction since there was another bad exaggeration by a fanboy) proves that Surfer's blasts can do nothing to three on the team. [/B]

Pay attention:

Clearly, Gladiator's wound was pretty blistered up. Secondly, this team could not do what Surfer did in the scans I posted - assuming this is Classic Thor. And since they can't, Surfer's obviously more powerful and wins.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Clearly, Gladiator's wound was pretty blistered up. Secondly, this team could not do what Surfer did in the scans I posted - assuming this is Classic Thor. And since they can't, Surfer's obviously more powerful and wins.

2 things. This is an alternate glads who's obviously weaker (and has NO feats except losing...especially considering some nobody also got hit with the board and wasn't cut in half.)

If Glads powers up with confidence..I would imagine being blistered up by a blast would hardly have him in a winning mentality in the 1st place. 😉

Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry I don't go by what characters say in comics when I know better. Glads wasn't shown to be greatly harmed to me. He seemed very much to be able to continue the fight. But nonetheless this is moot and you are avoiding the real problem here. Surfer can't stop all three at the same time. Once he's hit then it is over.

Evry post get more and more nonsensical .lmao at u knowing better than the comics themselves. what of cases like against Tyrant where no visible injury was shown AT ALL on either surfer or glads from his blasts? Yet from their reactions we could see they were hurt greatly? We should assume tht they were unharmed and just acting that way right? 😱

Further im not avoiding anything. In one of my above posts, i already mentioned that with surfers board being far faster than anyone here, he could use it for an initial blitz and then come with his personal attacks (such as weakness exploitation)etc after they are all weakened from the board blitz(some dead).

Originally posted by Avlon
2 things. This is an alternate glads who's obviously weaker

There's no proof of that.

Originally posted by Avlon
If Glads powers up with confidence..I would imagine being blistered up by a blast would hardly have him in a winning mentality in the 1st place. 😉

He seemed fine, confidence-wise, when he spouted off his righteous crap and attempted to punch Norrin.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Pay attention:

Clearly, Gladiator's wound was pretty blistered up. Secondly, this team could not do what Surfer did in the scans I posted - assuming this is Classic Thor. And since they can't, Surfer's obviously more powerful and wins.

Gladiator's chest seemed fine to me. I don't know why you posted those scans, I've already seen them. Gladiator's confidence got shot to hell after his fist was blocked and he seen the board coming. And we all know how weak Gladiator can be when his confidence dwindles.

And you still haven't defeated my main point. Surfer can't defend himself against the whole team at the same time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Gladiator's chest seemed fine to me.

Then you need a new prescription for your glasses. You can clearly tell his chest is blistered and effected. Its shown three times.

Originally posted by h1a8
And you still haven't defeated my main point. Surfer can't defend himself against the whole team at the same time.

Except you don't have a 'main point.' You have baseless assumptions that are totally fictitious and centered around your ignorance of not having read the actual arc to have the background knowledge to intelligently comment on Exiles Surfer and what he can and can not do.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Evry post get more and more nonsensical .lmao at u knowing better than the comics themselves. what of cases like against Tyrant where no visible injury was shown AT ALL on either surfer or glads from his blasts? Yet from their reactions we could see they were hurt greatly? We should assume tht they were unharmed and just acting that way right? 😱

Further im not avoiding anything. In one of my above posts, i already mentioned that with surfers board being far faster than anyone here, he could use it for an initial blitz and then come with his personal attacks (such as weakness exploitation)etc after they are all weakened from the board blitz(some dead).

I am not saying that if a character doesn't show injury then they are not greatly injured. I'm saying that if a character doesn't both show that he is greatly physically injured and through expressions of their face then the character is not greatly injured and is still able to fight.

I disagree that the board is faster than Supes and Glads. At least it is not faster than their reflexes. A 100mph baseball is faster than me yet I can still catch or dodge it. Surfer killing or harming one is not going to make him win here. If any one the team hits him once it is over. He can't stop all from hitting him when they are blitzing him ftl.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Then you need a new prescription for your glasses. You can clearly tell his chest is blistered and effected. Its shown three times.

Except you don't have a 'main point.' You have baseless assumptions that are totally fictitious and centered around your ignorance of not having read the actual arc to have the background knowledge to intelligently comment on Exiles Surfer and what he can and can not do. [/B]


I think you need glasses. I've seen many humans with 1st and 2nd degree burns. Their skin look like Freddy Kruger's. This is nowhere close. His chest seems almost unharmed with the exception of a little blistering. Again, this is a KMC fight and not a comic one. That means that Glads and Supes will use ftl speed and not just stand there and let Surfer do what he wants. That means Thor would pop his arse with the hammer and not just sit there and watch Surfer kill him.

Originally posted by h1a8
I am not saying that if a character doesn't show injury then they are not greatly injured. I'm saying that if a character doesn't both show that he is greatly physically injured and through expressions of their face then the character is not greatly injured and is still able to fight.

I disagree that the board is faster than Supes and Glads. At least it is not faster than their reflexes. A 100mph baseball is faster than me yet I can still catch or dodge it. Surfer killing or harming one is not going to make him win here. If any one the team hits him once it is over. He can't stop all from hitting him when they are blitzing him ftl.


Can you think of an instance of Supes or Glads reacting to something moving at Surfer's top speeds? If so, when?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Can you think of an instance of Supes or Glads reacting to something moving at Surfer's top speeds? If so, when?

I can ask the same of Surfer and add three attacks with it.

Originally posted by h1a8
I am not saying that if a character doesn't show injury then they are not greatly injured. I'm saying that if a character doesn't both show that he is greatly physically injured and through expressions of their face then the character is not greatly injured and is still able to fight.

Rubbish. In that scenario we had a painful facial expression from gladiator,physical injury to his chest, and statements from characters regarding his well being and you still choose to ignore it. Pure nonsense.

I disagree that the board is faster than Supes and Glads. At least it is not faster than their reflexes. A 100mph baseball is faster than me yet I can still catch or dodge it. Surfer killing or harming one is not going to make him win here. If any one the team hits him once it is over. He can't stop all from hitting him when they are blitzing him ftl.

Please show an instance of supes and glads reacting to something comparable to surfers board top speed. if not ur analogy is just as of off key and nonsensical as the rest of ur argument.

Originally posted by h1a8
I can ask the same of Surfer and add three attacks with it.

When he reacted to Glad's bullrush.

Besides, I'm not making any definitive claims for Surfer, you on the other hand ARE making a very specific claim in regards to Supes and Glads...

Originally posted by h1a8
I am not saying that if a character doesn't show injury then they are not greatly injured. I'm saying that if a character doesn't both show that he is greatly physically injured and through expressions of their face then the character is not greatly injured and is still able to fight.

I disagree that the board is faster than Supes and Glads. At least it is not faster than their reflexes. A 100mph baseball is faster than me yet I can still catch or dodge it. Surfer killing or harming one is not going to make him win here. If any one the team hits him once it is over. He can't stop all from hitting him when they are blitzing him ftl.

Surfer's board travels at hundreds and thousands of times the speed of light, when has Supes and Glads reacted to something moving at those speeds?

Originally posted by Naija boy
Rubbish. In that scenario we had a painful facial expression from gladiator,physical injury to his chest, and statements from characters regarding his well being and you still choose to ignore it. Pure nonsense.
His expression was more like "Motherfu*ker, you ruined my beautiful uniform." Doesn't matter since he was still able to fight. Remember it is 4 against 1 and three have comparable speed to his.


Please show an instance of supes and glads reacting to something comparable to surfers board top speed. if not ur analogy is just as of off key and nonsensical as the rest of ur argument.

I can ask the same of Surfer and add three attacks with it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
When he reacted to Glad's bullrush.

Besides, I'm not making any definitive claims for Surfer, you on the other hand ARE making a very specific claim in regards to Supes and Glads...

Surfer's board travels at hundreds and thousands of times the speed of light, when has Supes and Glads reacted to something moving at those speeds?

Who's to say that Glad's was moving at his top speed when Surfer reacted? I've seen Glad's travel many light years too in like no time yet only fought at subsonic speeds. I've seen Spidey dodge machine gun fire yet get hit by attacks going under 100mph. I've seen Surfer react to light speed attacks yet get hit by some fists that aren't known for speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Who's to say that Glad's was moving at his top speed when Surfer reacted? I've seen Glad's travel many light years too in like no time yet only fought at subsonic speeds. I've seen Spidey dodge machine gun fire yet get hit by attacks going under 100mph. I've seen Surfer react to light speed attacks yet get hit by some fists that aren't known for speed.

Stop trying to sidestep the issue because again, I'm not the one saying that speed's necessarily going to determine the outcome of this fight, you are. When has Supes or Glads reacted to something that was moving hundreds(let alone thousands) of times lightspeed?

And thanks for the concession in regards to Surfer reacting to lightspeed attacks, I'll be sure to save your quote for future use...

Originally posted by h1a8
His expression was more like "Motherfu*ker, you ruined my beautiful uniform." Doesn't matter since he was still able to fight. Remember it is 4 against 1 and three have comparable speed to his.

Please show an instance of supes and glads reacting to something comparable to surfers board top speed. if not ur analogy is just as of off key and nonsensical as the rest of ur argument.

lol. we could see he was clearly in pain from the initial blast and then this is supported by further comments made about it as wel as the physical injury . If u seriously think that he was reacting mainly to his uniform than im sorry but u must be mentally impaired. it just shows the idiocy of ur argument. The point was never that he was unable to fight, but rather that Surfer CAN indeed hurt the members of the team(contrry to ur erroneous claims) with regular blasts and therefore his more poerful blasts would be even more devastating.

I can ask the same of Surfer and add three attacks with it.

He reacted to glads rush and even then it doesnt matter since surfers board has the considerable speed advantage and is controlled mentally. As well as the fact that neither gladiator or superman are likely going to attack at full speed first while exiles surfer will have no problems doing so.

Originally posted by Naija boy
lol. we could see he was clearly in pain from the initial blast and then this is supported by further comments made about it as wel as the physical injury . If u seriously think that he was reacting mainly to his uniform than im sorry but u must be mentally impaired. it just shows the idiocy of ur argument. The point was never that he was unable to fight, but rather that Surfer CAN indeed hurt the members of the team(contrry to ur erroneous claims) with regular blasts and therefore his more poerful blasts would be even more devastating.
Come on man have a heart. You of all people should know when intelligent people are joking. With that said, Glads was still able to fight. What are you talking about?


He reacted to glads rush and even then it doesnt matter since surfers board has the considerable speed advantage and is controlled mentally. As well as the fact that neither gladiator or superman are likely going to attack at full speed first while exiles surfer will have no problems doing so.
Surfer will have his mind tied up in the first nanosecond to even think about how to navigate his board. Now it may be true that Glads is not likely to attack at his full speed but certainly the team will if Surfer does. Most of Surfer's history contradicts him attacking at his full speed yet I consider it. So we must consider the team to do the same only to be fair.

Originally posted by Avlon
2 things. This is an alternate glads who's obviously weaker (and has NO feats except losing...especially considering some nobody also got hit with the board and wasn't cut in half.)

If Glads powers up with confidence..I would imagine being blistered up by a blast would hardly have him in a winning mentality in the 1st place. 😉

How is he obviously weaker? How?

Who else was hit by the board?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who else was hit by the board?

Check the third scan I put up. Another Guardsmen got struck by it. It impaled him, but didn't go all the way through.