Originally posted by h1a8
brakes lines cut? I don't understand what you are saying.
Superman and Glads aren't just going to sit there and let Surfer exploit them. They all attack him fast and hard. He's toast easily.
Not at all. Surfer cuted Gladiator in half with his board. Imagine what he would do if he put heart in the ass kickin'
Originally posted by h1a8
You know well I didn't mean the character's were made of paper. My point is that the durability of those could be less than their counterparts.Prove that this Surfer has energy blasts that can affect someone of the likes of Superman, Gladiator, and Thor. All three can easily survive in the core of a star which can disintegrate a planet instantly. So prove that this Surfer can input much more power than the core of the Sun in a blast.
Its 4 against 1. Two have faster than light speed (Supes and Glads) and 1 have light speed attacks (Thor). There is no way in hell Surfer is going to stop all these characters at once. Thor alone will pop his arse with the hammer while Supes and Glads speedblitz him.
Huh? Are u seriously questioning if surfer can hurt superman gladiator or thor with his blasts?. Note that im only arguing what would happen if we equate alternate gladiators powerlevel to 616 glads. In that case exiles surfer would easily be able to hurt 616 glads/thor/superman with his blasts. He greatly injured exiles gladiator with only one casual blast. So much so that gladiators wife knew hed die if he kept fighting. He will definitely be hurting the team badly with his blasts.Superman will get taken out via weakness exploitation while gladiator gets dismembered like his alternate counterpart. Classic thor is also vulnerable to attacks from the board.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Huh? Are u seriously questioning if surfer can hurt superman gladiator or thor with his blasts?. Note that im only arguing what would happen if we equate alternate gladiators powerlevel to 616 glads. In that case exiles surfer would easily be able to hurt 616 glads/thor/superman with his blasts. He greatly injured exiles gladiator with only one casual blast. So much so that gladiators wife knew hed die if he kept fighting. He will definitely be hurting the team badly with his blasts.Superman will get taken out via weakness exploitation while gladiator gets dismembered like his alternate counterpart. Classic thor is also vulnerable to attacks from the board.
Exiles marvel have nothing to put them on there 616 counterparts level, and besides exiles SS doesn't even have the myriad of feats to put him above his 616 iteration either. Exiles SS is rather a pain to debate with IMO for this very reason, and even assuming he was at his 616 self it still wouldn't mean he has what it takes to bring this team down.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Not at all. Surfer cuted Gladiator in half with his board. Imagine what he would do if he put heart in the ass kickin'
Originally posted by Naija boy
Huh? Are u seriously questioning if surfer can hurt superman gladiator or thor with his blasts?. Note that im only arguing what would happen if we equate alternate gladiators powerlevel to 616 glads. In that case exiles surfer would easily be able to hurt 616 glads/thor/superman with his blasts. He greatly injured exiles gladiator with only one casual blast. So much so that gladiators wife knew hed die if he kept fighting. He will definitely be hurting the team badly with his blasts.Superman will get taken out via weakness exploitation while gladiator gets dismembered like his alternate counterpart. Classic thor is also vulnerable to attacks from the board.
Surfer didn't greatly injure Glads with a blast. What are you talking about? Such lies to try to win the debate. He merely burned his uniform with a minor burn to his chest. And that was a concentrated blast. An omnidirectional one would be far weaker. Also you are forgetting that Surfer won't have a chance to respond to all three attackers here. Once he's hit it is over. Combo rocking will pursue.
Originally posted by Enyalus
facepalmWhat makes you say this when Exiles Surfer is multiple times faster than light?
So are two on the team with Thor having light speed attacks. But traveling fast doesn't equate to battle reflexes. It only gives a lower bound to them. Also stopping one attack is not the same as stopping three at the same time.
Originally posted by h1a8
Which would do anything but be mere light to them.
Originally posted by Enyalus
He's vaporized multiple mid-heralds at the same time with those blasts. Would you please bother reading Exiles 87-88 before making ridiculous comments like this? Its perfectly fine that you don't read everything you comment on. I'm sure most people don't. But making blatantly stupid assertions when you don't know what the hell you're talking about is not fine.
He didn't vaporize Glads with a highly concentrated blast (which is much greater than an omnidirectional one). He merely burnt his uniform with a slight burn to his chest. Supes and Thor's energy durability is at least greater than even Glad's. I don't even think this Surfer can input a blast more powerful than the core of a star (something that can disintegrate a planet instantly). And those on the team can survive the core of stars without hesitation.
Originally posted by h1a8The board slices them in half. He easily wrecked Glads and the opposition. It was all of them against him.
No need to read exiles for I have already seen all the relevant scans on Surfer's respect page.He didn't vaporize Glads with a highly concentrated blast (which is much greater than an omnidirectional one). He merely burnt his uniform with a slight burn to his chest. Supes and Thor's energy durability is at least greater than even Glad's. I don't even think this Surfer can input a blast more powerful than the core of a star (something that can disintegrate a planet instantly). And those on the team can survive the core of stars without hesitation.
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer didn't greatly injure Glads with a blast. What are you talking about? Such lies to try to win the debate. He merely burned his uniform with a minor burn to his chest. And that was a concentrated blast. An omnidirectional one would be far weaker. Also you are forgetting that Surfer won't have a chance to respond to all three attackers here. Once he's hit it is over. Combo rocking will pursue.
lulz lies? I dont know how u take urself seriously. He blasted gladiator once and we saw that he was visibly injured up to the point were his wife knew he would die if he continued. If surfers blasts wouldnt harm him as u foolishly claim why would there be any worry? Get ur idiocy outta here. 616 glads have survived a solar sytem destroying blast with no injury at all. If his exiles counterpart is comparable to him, and was still visibly injured by a single blast from exiles surfer then it will certainly hurt him as well. Further where did u get the nonsense of an omnidirectional blast being at all weaker let alone "far" weaker? Why do u continuously make up nonsense? Soon u will be comin with inane calculations. An omnidirectional blast is not at all weaker as it involves him outputting more energy than he would be for the straight blast. Further there wont be any "comboing" or whatever ur talking about. He can use the same method as 616 surfer to take out superman(weakness exploitation) after the initial blitz with his board which mind u is far faster than them all.
Originally posted by h1a8
No need to read exiles for I have already seen all the relevant scans on Surfer's respect page.He didn't vaporize Glads with a highly concentrated blast (which is much greater than an omnidirectional one). He merely burnt his uniform with a slight burn to his chest.
He also disintegrates Ronan the Accuser, Superskrull, and Captain Marvel with the same blast. Beaten and killed the Imperial Guard, all the Kree, Shi'ar and Skrull champions, plus Galactus....and, uh, Power Princess too. Yeah!
Originally posted by Naija boy
lulz lies? I dont know how u take urself seriously. He blasted gladiator once and we saw that he was visibly injured up to the point were his wife knew he would die if he continued. If surfers blasts wouldnt harm him as u foolishly claim why would there be any worry? Get ur idiocy outta here. 616 glads have survived a solar sytem destroying blast with no injury at all. If his exiles counterpart is comparable to him, and was still visibly injured by a single blast from exiles surfer then it will certainly hurt him as well. Further where did u get the nonsense of an omnidirectional blast being at all weaker let alone "far" weaker? Why do u continuously make up nonsense? Soon u will be comin with inane calculations. An omnidirectional blast is not at all weaker as it involves him outputting more energy than he would be for the straight blast.
Sorry, but a mere chest burn equating to death if continuing to fight is hogwash. The same hogwash when Spidey said Sentry stalemated Galactus.
If Surfer can output a certain amount of energy from his being then it is common sense that he will do more damage in a single blast vs. an omnidirectional one (where energy is wasted in places where the enemies are not).
Originally posted by EnyalusGlads can still fight. Being slightly blistered (this is a correction since there was another bad exaggeration by a fanboy) proves that Surfer's blasts can do nothing to three on the team.
That 'slight burn' severely hurt Glads, and he says as much. It also was badly blistered. And yes, Gladiator swims through million-mile wide stars without issue and tanks supernovae blasts, so apparently Surfer can indeed output energy that's more powerful than stars.
This is a KMC fight and not a comic one. Comic battles only count when someone is fighting at their best.
He also disintegrates Ronan the Accuser, Superskrull, and Captain Marvel with the same blast. Beaten and killed the Imperial Guard, all the Kree, Shi'ar and Skrull champions, plus Galactus....and, uh, Power Princess too. Yeah!
Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry, but a mere chest burn equating to death if continuing to fight is hogwash. The same hogwash when Spidey said Sentry stalemated Galactus.If Surfer can output a certain amount of energy from his being then it is common sense that he will do more damage in a single blast vs. an omnidirectional one (where energy is wasted in places where the enemies are not).
lulz yup lets just ignore what the comics said and follow ur own idiotic theories. How could i have epected anything else. We have seen guys like thor ,surfer,glads etc greatly harmed by attacks without any physical injury being shown at all. In these cases however we should ignore the obvious comic portrayal and assume they were hardly affected right? Once more get such idiocy outta here. Ur laughable comparison between clear on panel portrayal and spidys statement about sentry and galactus is absolutely retarded. they have no relationship whatsoever.
That is just false. The only way that would be true is if surfer was outputting the same amount of energy for both blasts. That however is not usually the case with omnidirectional blasts. The overall energy output is usually much more.
Originally posted by Naija boy
lulz yup lets just ignore what the comics said and follow ur own idiotic theories. How could i have epected anything else. We have seen guys like thor ,surfer,glads etc greatly harmed by attacks without any physical injury being shown at all. In these cases however we should ignore the obvious comic portrayal and assume they were hardly affected right? Once more get such idiocy outta here. Ur laughable comparison between clear on panel portrayal and spidys statement about sentry and galactus is absolutely retarded. they have no relationship whatsoever.That is just false. The only way that would be true is if surfer was outputting the same amount of energy for both blasts. That however is not usually the case with omnidirectional blasts. The overall energy output is usually much more.
Sorry I don't go by what characters say in comics when I know better. Glads wasn't shown to be greatly harmed to me. He seemed very much to be able to continue the fight. But nonetheless this is moot and you are avoiding the real problem here. Surfer can't stop all three at the same time. Once he's hit then it is over.