Originally posted by h1a8
Come on man have a heart. You of all people should know when intelligent people are joking. With that said, Glads was still able to fight. What are you talking about?
When it comes to u, its hard to differentiate between jokes and serious arguments. And once again the point is that glads was hurt by surfers blasts. So after the initial board blitz, Both superman and gladiator(assuming they survive) will be bomboarded with numerous energy blasts that will hurt them and be able to take them down.
Surfer will have his mind tied up in the first nanosecond to even think about how to navigate his board. Now it may be true that Glads is not likely to attack at his full speed but certainly the team will if Surfer does. Most of Surfer's history contradicts him attacking at his full speed yet I consider it. So we must consider the team to do the same only to be fai.
Surfers mind tied up? How so? He can certainly think before they will be able to attack mount an attack. And what u are forgetting is that this is exiles surfer who is ruthless and does not hesistate to kill. so he will not hesitate to attack them with all he has from the get go. they on the other hand wont be doing the same thing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
See it now. It killed him so what's the problem, the Surfer was multitasking.
Gladiator was Praetor in both universes. Clearly he's the most powerful Guard member in each universe.
That he gets cut in half while Surfer's attention is fully focused on him, whereas the other guy only gets impaled while he's fighting others, doesn't prove much.
Originally posted by EnyalusSurfer tore those elite members apart. They were nothing to him. Basically, if you have his full attention it is cutting you clean in half and if it hits you while he is fighting someone else you still die. Yeah, loved that two issue story by the way. They need to bring that Surfer back.
I know. I don't see a problem, either.Gladiator was Praetor in both universes. Clearly he's the most powerful Guard member in each universe.
That he gets cut in half while Surfer's attention is fully focused on him, whereas the other guy only gets impaled while he's fighting others, doesn't prove much.
Originally posted by Naija boy
When it comes to u, its hard to differentiate between jokes and serious arguments. And once again the point is that glads was hurt by surfers blasts. So after the initial board blitz, Both superman and gladiator(assuming they survive) will be bomboarded with numerous energy blasts that will hurt them and be able to take them down.Surfers mind tied up? How so? He can certainly think before they will be able to attack mount an attack. And what u are forgetting is that this is exiles surfer who is ruthless and does not hesistate to kill. so he will not hesitate to attack them with all he has from the get go. they on the other hand wont be doing the same thing.
I'm sorry but as much of a badass as Exiles Surfer was I don't see him stopping Superman, Glads, and Thor if they bullrush him at once. He has to get hit. This is spite in my book. I might give Surfer the win over any one on the team but certainly not these elite three. That's crazy. I'm not convinced when comics don't show characters fighting at their best.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm sorry but as much of a badass as Exiles Surfer was I don't see him stopping Superman, Glads, and Thor if they bullrush him at once. He has to get hit. This is spite in my book. I might give Surfer the win over any one on the team but certainly not these elite three. That's crazy. I'm not convinced when comics don't show characters fighting at their best.
Decided not to answer anything in my post i see.
Originally posted by h1a8Thor isn't that fast at all as the rest of them. We already saw how easily he can crush Glads with friends. This Surfer was a badass and has the tools and the mentality to beat the tar out of this team.
I'm sorry but as much of a badass as Exiles Surfer was I don't see him stopping Superman, Glads, and Thor if they bullrush him at once. He has to get hit. This is spite in my book. I might give Surfer the win over any one on the team but certainly not these elite three. That's crazy. I'm not convinced when comics don't show characters fighting at their best.
Originally posted by Naija boyHe wasn't hurt enough where he couldn't fight. And why would Superman and Glads even get hit with Surfer's blasts? Both Superman and Glads move ftl and have at least lightspeed reflexes. And even if Surfer manages to hit one or two on the team all it would take is for one to hit him. Then it is over.
And once again the point is that glads was hurt by surfers blasts. So after the initial board blitz, Both superman and gladiator(assuming they survive) will be bomboarded with numerous energy blasts that will hurt them and be able to take them down.
He can think before the bell but he certainly can't scan them before the bell. After the bell they will be on him in less than a nanosecond. He has no time to scan them and then blast them (assuming he can even hit any). He may not hesitate to try to kill them but they will certainly not hesitate to knock him the f*ck out.
Surfers mind tied up? How so? He can certainly think before they will be able to attack mount an attack. And what u are forgetting is that this is exiles surfer who is ruthless and does not hesistate to kill. so he will not hesitate to attack them with all he has from the get go. they on the other hand wont be doing the same thing.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Even if the alternate characters are as strong as their 616 counterparts, his best feat is killing Gladiator. When he met someone who had the power cosmic, he went down.
Originally posted by h1a8
He wasn't hurt enough where he couldn't fight. And why would Superman and Glads even get hit with Surfer's blasts? Both Superman and Glads move ftl and have at least lightspeed reflexes. And even if Surfer manages to hit one or two on the team all it would take is for one to hit him. Then it is over.
My God facepalm. Is this blindness? Did u not read anything i wrote at all? Or are u being so recalcitrant for another reason?.Sigh Gladiator being hurt by the blast is the point contrary to ur nonsensical claims. Therefore if gladiator was affected by the blast then surfer will be able to put the people on the team down using those same blasts,provided that they get hit with enough of them. Further i already mentioned that surfer would begin the blasts an such after the initial board blitz. In other words he would attack after his board has at least done serious damage (and likely killed) to them. The team would be in no shape to orchestrate a joint FTL blitz on surfer at that point. And lol at any of them oneshotting him
He can think before the bell but he certainly can't scan them before the bell. After the bell they will be on him in less than a nanosecond. He has no time to scan them and then blast them (assuming he can even hit any). He may not hesitate to try to kill them but they will certainly not hesitate to knock him the f*ck out
Er, what? Scan them before the bell? What scanning? 🤨 What i said hed do is use his board (which is considerably faster than any of them) to blitz them. and then after they are damaged from that attack use his blasts to take them down. They wont try to use their superspeed to take him out in the first nanosecond or whatever(not tht it matterss cuz his boards much faster anyways). He however wont have any problems using his board to immediately dismember them from the get go.
Originally posted by Naija boy
My God facepalm. Is this blindness? Did u not read anything i wrote at all? Or are u being so recalcitrant for another reason?.Sigh Gladiator being hurt by the blast is the point contrary to ur nonsensical claims. Therefore if gladiator was affected by the blast then surfer will be able to put the people on the team down using those same blasts,provided that they get hit with enough of them. Further i already mentioned that surfer would begin the blasts an such after the initial board blitz. In other words he would attack after his board has at least done serious damage (and likely killed) to them. The team would be in no shape to orchestrate a joint FTL blitz on surfer at that point. And lol at any of them oneshotting himEr, what? Scan them before the bell? What scanning? 🤨 What i said hed do is use his board (which is considerably faster than any of them) to blitz them. and then after they are damaged from that attack use his blasts to take them down. They wont try to use their superspeed to take him out in the first nanosecond or whatever(not tht it matterss cuz his boards much faster anyways). He however wont have any problems using his board to immediately dismember them from the get go.
How is he going to blitz them when they are going to blitz him? They are not just standing there sitting still. He has to track the team which are moving at him from different angles at instantaneous speeds. If he manages to go for one then one of the others will pop him. Then the combo ensues.
The board is not faster than them in battle. His top speed is only used when traveling many light years away. He doesn't have the reflexes to navigate at his top speed in close vicinities (in battle) or the time to accelerate at those such speeds from rest. The team's speed and reflexes will be at least comparable to his in this battle. Saying otherwise shows a lack of objective thinking here (being too bias). Superman alone is fast as hell. He has instant speed (from the first nanosecond), Surfer doesn't. But to be objective let's say his battle speed and reflexes is comparable to the team's.
With that said, team wins but Surfer kills or severely injures one member in the process.
You saying that Surfer can kill the team without any of them landing even one blow is asinine.
Originally posted by h1a8
You know that Gladiator lost his confidence against Surfer by being burn by him. He lost some more when Surfer caught his fist. He lost even some more when he turned and saw the board coming at him. He probably was made out of jello by that time. Even Sue has knocked out Glads with her forcefield when his confidence slightly decreased.
Gladiator confidence doesnt go down simply because he is hurt by an oppoenent. His confidence goes down when he is seemingly failing against an opponent he believes not to be on his level. Gladiator new the power of surfer very well in that scenario. He wasnt Jello at all.lol
how is he going to blitz them when they are going to blitz him? They are not just standing there sitting still. He has to track the team which are moving at him from different angles at instantaneous speeds. If he manages to go for one then one of the others will pop him. Then the combo ensues.
Surfer doesnt need to track anyone. His board is fast enough to attack them before they mount any form of attack. Its much much faster than them.
The board is not faster than them in battle. His top speed is only used when traveling many light years away. He doesn't have the reflexes to navigate at his top speed in close vicinities (in battle) or the time to accelerate at those such speeds from rest. The team's speed and reflexes will be at least comparable to his in this battle. Saying otherwise shows a lack of objective thinking here (being too bias). Superman alone is fast as hell. He has instant speed (from the first nanosecond), Surfer doesn't. But to be objective let's say his battle speed and reflexes is comparable to the team's.
His board speed does not vary in or out of battle. surfer does not even need to be on it, so his personal reflexes are irrelevant here. He is mentally commanding his board. His board acceleration will also accelerate faster than them because not only does it have flat out faster acceleration speed(please show me this "instant speed of supermans"😉, but also superman and glads arent going to come out speeding from the get go looking to immediately take out surfer(not in character) while surfer will come out with evrythin he has from the get go trying to kill them. Hence immediate board bullrush dismemberment is a valid attack for him but them trying to take him out in the first second of the fight isnt valid for them.
With that said, team wins but Surfer kills or severely injures one member in the process. You saying that Surfer can kill the team without any of them landing even one blow is asinine
Not really. Given the fact that they arent going to come out instantly with guns ablazing in the same manner that he will, he is very likely to get the jump on them and succeed in taking them out before they can mount any useful offense.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer tore those elite members apart. They were nothing to him. Basically, if you have his full attention it is cutting you clean in half and if it hits you while he is fighting someone else you still die. Yeah, loved that two issue story by the way. They need to bring that Surfer back.
Funny... Lobo did the same thing in Jla vs Avengers. 🙂