Raziel vs Kratos

Started by Burning thought10 pages

I think context sensitive animations are important in gauging Kratos' strength and durability. Normal enemies striking him and harming him is indeed just gameplay mechanics however simply to make the game more than just a quick stomp, it has to have some content/difficulty.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Well, considering it is the only non-boss enemy type shown impaling Kratos outside of a gameplay-related grab/normal attack, I'd say that it very well could be strong. Or since this entire thing is non-canon, it shouldn't even be considered in the first place. 313
Whatever happened to that calculation you and BT were working on?

Oh, it was an attack somewhat like Dante's Helm Breaker attack.

Sorry, I didn't quite understand the last part of this statement >__>

a) Right, because refuting your points = conceding 😐
No wonder you never concede 🙄

Nahh. He was able to fight Zeus when Zeus himself wielded the BoO, which was the sword that contained all of Kratos' energies.
Yeah, had he tried to fight Zeus just after Zeus killed him, he'd have been b****-slapped back to Hades. I thought this was obvious but I guess you missed it.

b) I never made any errors here. You were the one making errors when you stated that Kratos loses his powers near the beginning of every game 😐

When did I admit I was incorrect here? I only did that with the Hydrogen-Water analogy. It was the correct thing to do since I knew I was incorrect. You on the other hand don't even realize when you are wrong. Once someone points out that you were incorrect, you try to side-step it by changing your point, or by acting like a troll; & you call me a sore loser. drylaugh You have a knack for ridiculous Irony.
You're more focused on trying to say I'm incorrect when I'm not, rather than actually debating. Shows me how desperate you are to satisfy your ridiculously large ego.

If I wanted to personally insult you, I'd resort to insulting your looks, your sexuality, your parents, your family, the way you dress etc, but those factors are completely irrelevant in a debate. I'm only insulting your intelligence since it is the only relevant factor in a debate.
Not only am I insulting you, but I'm telling you the truth when I call you 'mentally retarded'. Let's face it, you really are, given by the way your arguments are choc full of hideous double-standards and retarded logic...if it can even be called logic in the first place. What makes it even funnier is that you don't even realize this to be the case.

Portrayals = not counted on KMC debates.
Shall I type this in larger letters to ensure you can read this better next time? Or is reading comprehension your Achilles Heel?

The only reason I bring up Thanos is to show you how deluded and biased you are. In no way am I attacking Thanos. Notice how I said "any character you like...?" Of course not. Reading comprehension isn't your friend anyway.
You always side-step, try to change your stance, and troll when you feel cornered (which is pretty much always), but let's try and remain civil here and just admit you were pwned, k?

No, Kain only wields the Soul Reaver, Raziel doesn't. In Defiance, one wields the original form of the Reaver. The other wields the Wraith Blade which is similar to the actual Soul Reaver, but the WB still isn't the actual Soul Reaver.
There's a big difference between the Reaver, the Wraith Blade and the True Soul Reaver. Not a shocker that you haven't realized this yet.
Also, it's rather funny that you switched from "Raziel wields the Soul Reaver" to 'Raziel wields a weaker version of the Soul Reaver, that needs to be combined to form the stronger Soul Reaver'. 😐
Nice to see your classic stance-switching-when-pwned method take place again.

a)When did you refute any of my points?

Yes, because Kratos came out of nowhere and took him by surprise when he recovered coming through a thread of time. Kratos was powered back up enough and almost killed him with the sword but Athena saved him.

b)I said the powers he achieved in the previous game he loses them at the start of the next one. So in part 1 he was as he is so he didn't achieve awesome powers until the end so I obviously only referred to the beginnings the sequels.

So you say calling someone a troll or stupid isn't an insult? See you don't even know what the word means. How can you bring my family or any of these others factors into it when we don't know each other online. When you figure out an insult is calling someone stupid or a troll get back to me. I am right yet again while you just proved you can't even master simple definitions.

How the characters is portrayed is how we take into account how badass these characters are not just using a few feats while undermining how the character is portrayed 90 percent of the time. You wouldn't make busiek smile.

Quit bringing up other characters who have nothing to do with video games it's trolling and another personal attack on me. Stick to the topic at hand.

Both Kain and Raziel both wielded it. Raziel didn't wield the physical fully combined reaver just like Kain didn't until he went into his sword because he is the soulreaver you nincompoop.

Both wielded the soulreaver just not the fully combined soulreaver just like I said.

This thread has gone pointlessly off-topic. Raziel blinds Kratos and then takes his soul with the wraith blade or the spiritual form of the reaver.

You mean that blade that can't hurt Kratos?

Kratos cannot resist his soul being reaved. Hades technique is completly different to the reavers.

The wraith blade does physical damage to enemies and cannot pierce Kratos' skin.

Yes a blade of spiritual energy does "physical" damage lol.....go and reconsider your lack of logic plez?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Yes a blade of spiritual energy does "physical" damage lol.....go and reconsider your lack of logic plez?
lol Raziel FTW 💃

Originally posted by Burning thought
This thread has gone pointlessly off-topic. Raziel blinds Kratos and then takes his soul with the [b]wraith blade or the spiritual form of the reaver. [/B]
Not likely to happen. Kratos wins all ten. He's more skilled, stronger, more durable, and an all around badass while Raziel isn't.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You mean that blade that can't hurt Kratos?
The blade can definitely hurt Kratos don't be naive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not likely to happen. Kratos wins all ten. He's more skilled, stronger, more durable, and an all around badass while Raziel isn't.

Kratos wont see Raziels faster and more agile form as it jumps invisibly at him, uses the light reaver to blind him further and simply impales him from behind or takes his eyes.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kratos wont see Raziels faster and more agile form as it jumps invisibly at him, uses the light reaver to blind him further and simply impales him from behind or takes his eyes.
This is wishful thinking at best. Kratos has fought off multiple medusa's etc. and come out on top. Raziel is nowhere near as effective as you make him out to be. Kratos works for it but really beats the crap out of him.

Raziel is not faster than Kratos. Dude deflects lightning in GoW3.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Raziel is not faster than Kratos. Dude deflects lightning in GoW3.
Here we go with the slow lightning escuse again 👇 you FAIL once more

You're the one using an excuse. Lightning is not slow.

Shall I remind you of our Kratos vs Bayonetta conversation again 😎

You got crushed in that conversation, so go ahead. It amuses me.

lol you guys didnt crush me at back you guys into a corner then you guys started making corny jokes lol Lames i said GoW lightning is slow you said it was fast then you changed your entire statement saying it was slowed down so the player could react to it WHAT A FANBOY 🤪

facepalm Learn what "gameplay mechanics" are. They're the adaptation of the story to the game so a player can play it. A real man cannot react to lightning, so gameplay lightning is slower so he can, and thus he can make his character dodge.

It's still lightning, and thus, still fast.

LOL your same cop out LOSER

KEEP YOUR FACE IN YOUR PALM UNTIL YOU LEARN BETTER COP OUTS

It's not a cop out, it's a fact, this is infact how games work.