Kratos is so light that having thousands if not tens of thousands of tonnes falling on your body cannot be spoken for, what about the friction of such a force? and Kratos' friction, surely he would have been pushed through Cronos' hands sideways like trying to grab soap.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixI stated even though he lost his immense size he always from then on had the power to kill the gods at the game progresses as he gets stronger as each game progresses. Think next time mccfly.
You've changed your points so much you have no idea you've changed them in the first place. 😂
First you tell me that Kratos had the power of the PB in 2 & 3. Then you tell me that he was always strong enough to kill the Gods after God of War 1. Then you tell me that he loses his powers and regains them back, and now you're telling me that he loses his powers and then becomes stronger.
drylaughNot really. I clearly stated what was the actual case, whereas you stated what was the case in only two of the games, but not the case in the other two. Try to think a little before you type something. Or simpler still; proof-read, and use the EDIT button.
By massive troops I assume you mean the weaker fodder enemies? Yeah, that's just in gameplay i.e. a gameplay restriction/limitation. Try again.
Bosses, sure. Is Raziel nearly as the strong (strength) as the gods though? You keep side-stepping the question, and bringing up laem bull-crap like "oh he's portrayed as someone who can beat tonnes of enemies." Won't work here.
WAT? The Reaver is never called the Soul Reaver, not unless it has Raziel inside it. There is no lower level to the actual Soul Reaver, at least none that would still make us call it the Soul Reaver. If the Soul Reaver lacks Raziel's soul, it is the Blood Reaver, which is remarkably different from the Soul Reaver. Are you really this obtuse?
The Wraith Blade can be considered the Soul Reaver, but it lacks the Blood Reaver part, which is why it isn't the actual Soul Reaver.The hell? "some wraith blade?" The Wraith Blade is the actual name of his weapon you fool.
It is a form of the Reaver (which is why it can kill Kain), and is nearly identical to the actual Soul Reaver, but it still isn't the actual Soul Reaver. BT said the same thing.When did I act like it's some worthless weapon? You resorting to such childish arguments shows me how desperate you are. Grow up, and try to actually make an argument.
True.
However, while it could be possible that Raziel's Spirit Reaver could harm the EG, I doubt he could actually defeat the EG. Besides, it was Kain's destiny to defeat the EG, so yeah, I agree with you.That said, you agree that Raziel does not wield the actual Soul Reaver?
Pretty much. The centaur thing is non-canon. As for weaker enemies, it is much like weak enemies actually hurting Dante, Vergil & Nero in gameplay.
My only problem with the Centaur scenario is that Kratos does not have a wound after the stab. Couple that with the fact that he does not possess regeneration in his mortal form afaik. Unless he actually possesses insta-regeneration, I say that the centaur thing is non-canon.This is not even a debate. quanchi112 can never debate because he simply does not know how to debate. He states opinions and his own thoughts as an argument (e.g. Reaver hurting Kratos because it's the baddest weapon in the LOK series).
Rarely ever does he provide proof, and when he does, it is always accompanied by a severely biased statement.
Nearly everyone who debates against him is convinced he is a biased troll, mentally deficient, or both.
In all three games does he get more powerful enough at the beginning of the following game does he lose it. This is again me simply stating a fact which you seem incapable of understanding.
So the game is setting you to to believe these characters can't hurt or damage him? You don't get how these games or characters are portrayed and will instead take a few feats and dismiss 99 percent of all other situations the characters are in to spin it your way. Busiek and myself deal with your kind all the time.
Both are soulreavers in a sense and when combined it is truly the soulreaver at it's most powerful. Rziel is the essence of the sword and yet you tried saying he didn't wield the reaver. Raziel wielded the only weapon that can kill Kain when he wields the soulreaver. Kain isn't unkillable in the game unless he has the sword. Think mccfly.
No, Bt said you were wrong and you are. It is the soulreaver not a combined soulreaver at it's most powerful. You're wrong all the time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I stated even though he lost his immense size he always from then on had the power to kill the gods at the game progresses as he gets stronger as each game progresses. Think next time mccfly.In all three games does he get more powerful enough at the beginning of the following game does he lose it. This is again me simply stating a fact which you seem incapable of understanding.
So the game is setting you to to believe these characters can't hurt or damage him? You don't get how these games or characters are portrayed and will instead take a few feats and dismiss 99 percent of all other situations the characters are in to spin it your way. Busiek and myself deal with your kind all the time.
Both are soulreavers in a sense and when combined it is truly the soulreaver at it's most powerful. Rziel is the essence of the sword and yet you tried saying he didn't wield the reaver. Raziel wielded the only weapon that can kill Kain when he wields the soulreaver. Kain isn't unkillable in the game unless he has the sword. Think mccfly.
No, Bt said you were wrong and you are. It is the soulreaver not a combined soulreaver at it's most powerful. You're wrong all the time.
a) You never said anything about size.
b) What you are stating here is remarkably different from what you first stated, which was that he had the power of the Box throughout the 2nd and third game.
Okay, so let me get this straight. First it's "in every single game you start out with a lot of energy and lose it in some fashion only to power yourself up throughout the course of the game with magic and weapons."
Then you move onto "In 2 and 3 you do." after I point out the stupidity in that point.
Now your point is saddled with language that is nearly incomprehensible. Seriously, how are you not in a padded cell yet?
The only reason I am "incapable" of understanding these facts (which I am perfectly aware of) is because what you previously stated makes no sense at all. Yes, Kratos loses his powers in the beginning of 2 & 3, but that is not what you first stated. Keep denying it, it only adds more points to the notion that you're mentally deficient.
This isn't comic-dom where feats are both low-end & high-end ones and are casually strewn all over the place. This is a different medium. With a character like Kratos, or Dante (DMC), his feats typically get better as time passes. You acting like previous incidents are still relevant is completely lulzy. Only a fool such as yourself would believe that feat-related events in GoW 1 would be relevant to GoW 3 Kratos, even though GoW 3 Kratos largely eclipses GoW 1 Kratos.
Right, because you are in the same league as Busiek. You don't have the mental capabilities to be a writer like Busiek. Hell, I doubt you have the capabilities to be a fiction writer in the first place. Instead, you have the mental capabilities to be a failed director like Uwe Boll. Even though I'm sure Boll is nowhere near as idiotic as you are.
Lulz. First I was just insulting you, but now I'm actually convinced you are mentally deficient.
Where was BT saying I am wrong about the Soul Reaver?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That said, you agree that Raziel does not wield the actual Soul Reaver?
Originally posted by Burning thought
No he does not, he wields the wraith blade. I can see how it can be confused as being called the "soul reaver", but the actual "soul reaver" is the completed sword that Kain wields at the end of Defiance, Blood omen 2 and SR 1.
This isn't him saying I am wrong.
He's actually agreeing with me here, 😐 and he's far more knowledgeable about the LoK series than yourself.
Oh wait, you probably think that agreeing = disagreeing. Or do you not understand an answer unless someone says 'No' or 'Yes'? Yeah, that's probably it, given your level of intelligence.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Yes I think he did, it was near the very end of the game, he had the purified final version.Centaurs regrowing their legs is not as scripted as the animation that has Kratos hacking them off or being impaled. And the event that caused the ripping off of the leg is scripted, but failing it is not.
I'll check out the cutscene. If it's the one right when Moebius is killed by Kain, then no, he doesn't actually strike EG with the Spirit Reaver.
They don't regrow their legs actually. My bad. They just instantly get them back. I think it's right when Kratos is thrown back, which is included in the whole scripting.
Originally posted by BloodRain
IMO legs coming back is a gameplay thing. Without legs the beast is useless and would make it not important if you failed the QTE or not, that and its off a basic enemy[not a boss] so it does that to make it a challenge instead of having a legless creature bleeding to death.Made a post about the Leviathan thing, no idea where it is though. 'b' goes to the Spiderman getting gutted and living thing.
Its normal hits arnt that threatening, well not that far from lower creatures attacks, but not that one attack.If ya did make it I'll just have to hope the bait is taken 😛
The legs coming back is still a result of the whole failed QTE though, as are actual wounds disappearing and what not. Then Kratos has to cause the actual wound again.
That's why I think the whole failed QTE angle is a little hazy and shouldn't be taken seriously. IMO It's just there because they had to include another scenario that happens should the player fails a QTE, and most of the time, it makes no sense. Somewhat like joke moves.
The Leviathan thing is still a durability feat as he takes the hit. I don't know if the leg could impale Kratos or not like CC says, but it's still a durability feat.
Meh.
b) Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that like an old game where such a thing would be really hard to program correctly? I don't recall such an instance happening in the Spider-man 2 movie game.
Sure, this is a strawman argument, but Kratos has been gutted before, and he somewhat resisted it (BoO), considering the circumstances. Even Zeus has survived being gutted, but whereas he is implied to possess regeneration, Kratos isn't.
Hell, this whole Centaur failed QTE thing can be attributed to gameplay >__>.
Doubt he'd do it after reading this thread though. 😛 Then again, he is mentally deficient and biased enough.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos cannot be cut by anything because we all know that Theseus's spear and Perseus's sword only bounced off his skin 🙄
Perseus just uses regular sword strikes that are like the sword strikes of the fodder enemies. I don't think he actually impales Kratos in a failed QTE.
Theseus on the other hand, can actually impale him in a failed QTE, much like the Centaur.
Also, I never said he's uncuttable, foo' estahuh
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix1.a) Why would I?
a) You never said anything about size.
b) What you are stating here is remarkably different from what you first stated, which was that he had the power of the Box throughout the 2nd and third game.Okay, so let me get this straight. First it's "in every single game you start out with a lot of energy and lose it in some fashion only to power yourself up throughout the course of the game with magic and weapons."
Then you move onto "In 2 and 3 you do." after I point out the stupidity in that point.
Now your point is saddled with language that is nearly incomprehensible. Seriously, how are you not in a padded cell yet?The only reason I am "incapable" of understanding these facts (which I am perfectly aware of) is because what you previously stated makes no sense at all. Yes, Kratos loses his powers in the beginning of 2 & 3, but that is not what you first stated. Keep denying it, it only adds more points to the notion that you're mentally deficient.
This isn't comic-dom where feats are both low-end & high-end ones and are casually strewn all over the place. This is a different medium. With a character like Kratos, or Dante (DMC), his feats typically get better as time passes. You acting like previous incidents are still relevant is completely lulzy. Only a fool such as yourself would believe that feat-related events in GoW 1 would be relevant to GoW 3 Kratos, even though GoW 3 Kratos largely eclipses GoW 1 Kratos.
Right, because you are in the same league as Busiek. You don't have the mental capabilities to be a writer like Busiek. Hell, I doubt you have the capabilities to be a fiction writer in the first place. Instead, you have the mental capabilities to be a failed director like Uwe Boll. Even though I'm sure Boll is nowhere near as idiotic as you are.
Lulz. First I was just insulting you, but now I'm actually convinced you are mentally deficient.
Where was BT saying I am wrong about the Soul Reaver?This isn't him saying I am wrong.
He's actually agreeing with me here, 😐 and he's far more knowledgeable about the LoK series than yourself.Oh wait, you probably think that agreeing = disagreeing. Or do you not understand an answer unless someone says 'No' or 'Yes'? Yeah, that's probably it, given your level of intelligence.
b.)He had the power needed to kill the gods and was built up in each game to do so. This is a fact.
When the opposition clings to personal insults it'd due to insecurity not debating. Try and stay on topic.
You denied he loses his energy after some traumatic event that takes place in both 2 and 3. It's you who can't accept reality and screams pis when you don't like something, huh?
Why aren't they relevant again? You pick and choose with each character what counts what doesn't count. It's impossible to debate with someone like yourself.
Busiek and I laugh at your kind. I put up the explanation because you are that spiderman fan who thinks he juggles buicks and that 90 percent of his appearances are pis.
Like I said raziel wields the soulreaver as does Kain. It becomes fully powered and completed at the end of the game. I was right and you were wrong.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Growing legs or not having a wound, both things don't happen during the QTE, they happen after making them part of gameplay not a QTE thing.
Last post, point 2. Its a strength feat.
Eh an '04 game, oldish. 2:50.
IMO what happens 'during' the QTE is a legit possibility, anything after is down to gameplay.
I'll get my chance one day 313
Originally posted by quanchi112
1.a) Why would I?b.)He had the power needed to kill the gods and was built up in each game to do so. This is a fact.
When the opposition clings to personal insults it'd due to insecurity not debating. Try and stay on topic.
You denied he loses his energy after some traumatic event that takes place in both 2 and 3. It's you who can't accept reality and screams pis when you don't like something, huh?
Why aren't they relevant again? You pick and choose with each character what counts what doesn't count. It's impossible to debate with someone like yourself.
Busiek and I laugh at your kind. I put up the explanation because you are that spiderman fan who thinks he juggles buicks and that 90 percent of his appearances are pis.
Like I said raziel wields the soulreaver as does Kain. It becomes fully powered and completed at the end of the game. I was right and you were wrong.
a) facepalm2
"I stated even though he lost his immense size he always from then on had the power to kill the gods at the game progresses as he gets stronger as each game progresses..." implies that you had earlier mentioned his immense size. That is clearly not the case as I pointed out to you.
Secondly, once he drained his powers into the BoO (lost his immense size much earlier), he was not strong enough to challenge Zeus and the other gods, despite your point suggesting otherwise.
Why do you think Gaia sent him on that little quest to reach Typhon, and then the Sisters of Fate? 😐
b) Yes, but it's also a fact that that was not your original point. I'm not denying your current point, but I am repeatedly pointing out the idiocy of your first point concerning Kratos losing his powers.
I am staying on topic, but I'm also having a little fun at your expense. If I stuck to only debating with you, I wouldn't have been half as persistent as I have been right now. I'm also pretty sure that I would never have learned that you are indeed mentally retarded and a biased fool.
I denied he loses his energy in 2 games? Prove I did.
You on the other hand, first stated that he loses his energy in every single GoW game. Nice try mcfly doped
They aren't relevant anymore since his power-set has changed for the most part. Not to mention, GoW 3 Kratos is largely > GoW 1 Kratos in most areas, barring magic. But you probably will ignore this explanation and once I've pwned you repeatedly, you'll accuse me of saying something else in the future drylaugh
Actually, sane people would rather debate with a person like myself, rather than with a person such as yourself.
You're deluding yourself again, but that's a given. That explanation isn't even relevant anyway, since I don't think 90% of his character's appearances are PIS, nor do I think Spider-man can juggle Buicks. 😐
You on the other hand, think that Thanos, or indeed any character you like, can beat characters who are well beyond their league. Double Standard much?
Humanity & I laugh at you.
What happened to BT saying I was wrong, huh? 🙄
Raziel wields the Wraith Blade which isn't the 'True' Soul Reaver. Kain first wields the 'True' Soul Reaver, but he loses it in SR. In Defiance, Kain only wields the Blood Reaver, until Raziel willingly enters the Blood Reaver to give Kain the Soul Reaver.
No, you were wrong this time.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Growing legs or not having a wound, both things don't happen during the QTE, they happen after making them part of gameplay not a QTE thing.Last post, point 2. Its a strength feat.
Eh an '04 game, oldish. 2:50.
IMO what happens 'during' the QTE is a legit possibility, anything after is down to gameplay.I'll get my chance one day 313
It still makes the failed QTEs thing look stupid though. Lazy programming most likely, but they were included since the devs had to keep an extra scenario in case the player failed. But fair enough, you have a point.
And as for Kratos not getting a wound, it's part of the failed QTE, not gameplay, since his 'regen' happens during the QTE 😛 (which ends when Kratos gets to his feet and enters his characteristic stance)
Yes, but like CC said (and Scream quoted), you can't have a massive strength feat, without having some sort of durability to withstand the force. He'd get blown apart if he were only strong, and not durable.
Actually, at that point (2:50), Octopus (the guy who is attacking Spidey) isn't impaling him, but he's grabbing him with his mechanical limbs. Play it back slowly, and you should see the plier like thing grasp Spidey instead of impale him.
It's actually the way the thing is used on people in the movie as well.
EDIT: never mind, the thing in question was at 2:55 most likely, and not at 2:50. Isn't that just attributed to gameplay though?
Well, hopefully you don't. No one deserves to be put through that much stupidityfacepalm2
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenixa)concession accepted.
a) facepalm2"[b]I stated even though he lost his immense size
he always from then on had the power to kill the gods at the game progresses as he gets stronger as each game progresses..." implies that you had earlier mentioned his immense size. That is clearly not the case as I pointed out to you.
Secondly, once he drained his powers into the BoO (lost his immense size much earlier), he was not strong enough to challenge Zeus and the other gods, despite your point suggesting otherwise.
Why do you think Gaia sent him on that little quest to reach Typhon, and then the Sisters of Fate? 😐b) Yes, but it's also a fact that that was not your original point. I'm not denying your current point, but I am repeatedly pointing out the idiocy of your first point concerning Kratos losing his powers.
I am staying on topic, but I'm also having a little fun at your expense. If I stuck to only debating with you, I wouldn't have been half as persistent as I have been right now. I'm also pretty sure that I would never have learned that you are indeed mentally retarded and a biased fool.
I denied he loses his energy in 2 games? Prove I did.
You on the other hand, first stated that he loses his energy in every single GoW game. Nice try mcfly dopedThey aren't relevant anymore since his power-set has changed for the most part. Not to mention, GoW 3 Kratos is largely > GoW 1 Kratos in most areas, barring magic. But you probably will ignore this explanation and once I've pwned you repeatedly, you'll accuse me of saying something else in the future drylaugh
Actually, sane people would rather debate with a person like myself, rather than with a person such as yourself.You're deluding yourself again, but that's a given. That explanation isn't even relevant anyway, since I don't think 90% of his character's appearances are PIS, nor do I think Spider-man can juggle Buicks. 😐
You on the other hand, think that Thanos, or indeed any character you like, can beat characters who are well beyond their league. Double Standard much?
Humanity & I laugh at you.What happened to BT saying I was wrong, huh? 🙄
Raziel wields the Wraith Blade which isn't the 'True' Soul Reaver. Kain first wields the 'True' Soul Reaver, but he loses it in SR. In Defiance, Kain only wields the Blood Reaver, until Raziel willingly enters the Blood Reaver to give Kain the Soul Reaver.No, you were wrong this time. [/B]
You're right about him losing his size but when he retained the sword he had the power to kill the gods as his powers was drained into that. Thanks for backing me up.
b)You finally agree with me. See you can admit your errors when I persist.
Here comes the insults after you admitted you were incorrect and I was right yet again. You seem like a sore loser to me. Stay on topic and quit with the insults it only makes you look emotionally unstable when it comes to arguing video game characters.
He retained his sword which has his energies in it and has realized throughout the course of the games the gods have exaggerated themselves and their power and he can kill them. I thought this was obvious but I guess you missed it.
This isn't about Spiderman it was just an example of people like you. Try and stay on topic you forget how Kratos is portrayed throughout the games and falsely represent him based on a few uber feats of his.
This also isn't about Thanos so quit trying to change the subject here. I know you do this when you feel cornered but try and remain civil here this is just about video game characters.
Both wield the soulreaver and only does it reach it's true power when it's combined just like I said. I was right you were wrong. Not a shocker.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Oh no I'm well aware that Kratos has high durability, if it was for Cronos I was saying that it was more strength then durability, not none. Its to what levels he resists blades is where I begin to question.
Aha timing was a tad off... Seems to be in the same category, its not a normal -mook uses attack, attack my hit him- as when it begins there's no stopping it. And the guy can't regen either.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Well it'd be a lame game if you end up dieing 'cause of one attack by a high-grunt >.> Nor do I expect them to draw and keep a wound up for it.Oh no I'm well aware that Kratos has high durability, if it was for Cronos I was saying that it was more strength then durability, not none. Its to what levels he resists blades is where I begin to question.
Aha timing was a tad off... Seems to be in the same category, its not a normal -mook uses attack, attack my hit him- as when it begins there's no stopping it. And the guy can't regen either.
Maybe that's because the whole thing is still gameplay, and never happened in canon? 😛
I think you have a valid point, but the whole failed QTEs angle still doesn't make sense at times. Some make sense, while some doesn't. But fair enough, let's say the Centaur can in fact pierce him. It either means that the Centaur is extremely strong, or that the weapon is highly enchanted + sharp.
Well, he does resists BoO swings and stabs from Zeus. Granted, he doesn't resist it with his torso, but his hands.
Even Zeus resists a downward attack with the BoO from Kratos (akin to a slower version of Dante's air T attack with Rebellion [name eludes me right now])
I dunno, I think you can still avoid the move. Unless the move only happens when Spidey is close to the grunt, in which case it's a grab, but a gameplay move nonetheless.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Palms being tougher may be a good reason for it but ya lost me on the.. whatever it is down move.
Tis a grab move yus, also I could of just crunched the number and found out how hard it is to stab him... feel to meh to work on that `-`;
Originally posted by BloodRain
All for saying that its a very strong beast, but not above many metahumans here. Size and rank, high strength but surprised it it'd get to the 100 tonner mark.Palms being tougher may be a good reason for it but ya lost me on the.. whatever it is down move.
Tis a grab move yus, also I could of just crunched the number and found out how hard it is to stab him... feel to meh to work on that `-`;
Well, considering it is the only non-boss enemy type shown impaling Kratos outside of a gameplay-related grab/normal attack, I'd say that it very well could be strong. Or since this entire thing is non-canon, it shouldn't even be considered in the first place. 313
Whatever happened to that calculation you and BT were working on?
Oh, it was an attack somewhat like Dante's Helm Breaker attack.
Sorry, I didn't quite understand the last part of this statement >__>
Originally posted by quanchi112
a)concession accepted.You're right about him losing his size but when he retained the sword he had the power to kill the gods as his powers was drained into that. Thanks for backing me up.
b)You finally agree with me. See you can admit your errors when I persist.Here comes the insults after you admitted you were incorrect and I was right yet again. You seem like a sore loser to me. Stay on topic and quit with the insults it only makes you look emotionally unstable when it comes to arguing video game characters.
He retained his sword which has his energies in it and has realized throughout the course of the games the gods have exaggerated themselves and their power and he can kill them. I thought this was obvious but I guess you missed it.
This isn't about Spiderman it was just an example of people like you. Try and stay on topic you forget how Kratos is portrayed throughout the games and falsely represent him based on a few uber feats of his.
This also isn't about Thanos so quit trying to change the subject here. I know you do this when you feel cornered but try and remain civil here this is just about video game characters.
Both wield the soulreaver and only does it reach it's true power when it's combined just like I said. I was right you were wrong. Not a shocker.
a) Right, because refuting your points = conceding 😐
No wonder you never concede 🙄
Nahh. He was able to fight Zeus when Zeus himself wielded the BoO, which was the sword that contained all of Kratos' energies.
Yeah, had he tried to fight Zeus just after Zeus killed him, he'd have been b****-slapped back to Hades. I thought this was obvious but I guess you missed it.
b) I never made any errors here. You were the one making errors when you stated that Kratos loses his powers near the beginning of every game 😐
When did I admit I was incorrect here? I only did that with the Hydrogen-Water analogy. It was the correct thing to do since I knew I was incorrect. You on the other hand don't even realize when you are wrong. Once someone points out that you were incorrect, you try to side-step it by changing your point, or by acting like a troll; & you call me a sore loser. drylaugh You have a knack for ridiculous Irony.
You're more focused on trying to say I'm incorrect when I'm not, rather than actually debating. Shows me how desperate you are to satisfy your ridiculously large ego.
If I wanted to personally insult you, I'd resort to insulting your looks, your sexuality, your parents, your family, the way you dress etc, but those factors are completely irrelevant in a debate. I'm only insulting your intelligence since it is the only relevant factor in a debate.
Not only am I insulting you, but I'm telling you the truth when I call you 'mentally retarded'. Let's face it, you really are, given by the way your arguments are choc full of hideous double-standards and retarded logic...if it can even be called logic in the first place. What makes it even funnier is that you don't even realize this to be the case.
Portrayals = not counted on KMC debates.
Shall I type this in larger letters to ensure you can read this better next time? Or is reading comprehension your Achilles Heel?
The only reason I bring up Thanos is to show you how deluded and biased you are. In no way am I attacking Thanos. Notice how I said "any character you like...?" Of course not. Reading comprehension isn't your friend anyway.
You always side-step, try to change your stance, and troll when you feel cornered (which is pretty much always), but let's try and remain civil here and just admit you were pwned, k?
No, Kain only wields the Soul Reaver, Raziel doesn't. In Defiance, one wields the original form of the Reaver. The other wields the Wraith Blade which is similar to the actual Soul Reaver, but the WB still isn't the actual Soul Reaver.
There's a big difference between the Reaver, the Wraith Blade and the True Soul Reaver. Not a shocker that you haven't realized this yet.
Also, it's rather funny that you switched from "Raziel wields the Soul Reaver" to 'Raziel wields a weaker version of the Soul Reaver, that needs to be combined to form the stronger Soul Reaver'. 😐
Nice to see your classic stance-switching-when-pwned method take place again.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Reading back, I got no clue what I said.. <.<
We got some figures in the air for Kratos' strength, how does Zeus match up to him? [Stronger, weaker, same?] That I know Zeus>Theseus, Perseus and a Centaur, that and them being human-speed stabs will be all thats left to do.
I cant recall the consistency with Kratos, how many things are animated by the developers to mandhandle him? how many context sensistive events are there in Gow 3 and in other GoW games that have him beaten by things far weaker than Cronos. Despite them not being canon, their relevant to gauging Kratos' strength/resistances overall. The Cronos example may be an inconsistency.
Originally posted by dev10n
Ok so when kratos climbed from the underworld those arms were non canon so he climbed from the underworld without so much as a (HEY STOP!!!! YOU CANT JUST LEAVE HELL)
I haven't played GoW, I was just telling you why they were saying that. If you have evidence of Kratos being cut in a cutscene, it would render most of this discussion moot.