Tom Hardy is going to nail this roll. Gotham...This is your liberation.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Tom Hardy is going to nail this roll. Gotham...This is your liberation.
I just can not get excited for this movie 🙁
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Does anyone have a link to the new footage they showed at the MTV movie awards? I heard it was awesome.
i saw the footage and yes it was..
Fuuuudge!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10101516909168686
This looks incredible.
Some guy who apparently hates movies gave it the highest score he ever did for one. a solid 9/10.
I've been wanting to bring this up for a while now but never did. I guess the best moment to do so in now before the movie is out.
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that Bruce retires for 8 years in TDKR? To me, this completely destroys the whole character arc he had in TDK. TDK was about him coming to the realization that Batman is who he is and that he needs to be Batman forever (no pun intended) in order for Gotham to stay truly incorruptible. His original plan in Batman Begins was to be Batman for a few years until he he fixed Gotham and then his job would be finished and he'll hook up with Rachel. At the end of TDK, he realizes this will never be possible for him. Batman is who he is and who he always has to be. So doesn't him retiring from being Batman destroy all the character development and message Bruce went through and learned? Rachel herself even said she would have never been with him anyways because deep inside, they both knew he would never be able to give up Batman.
Plus, I don't see Batman retiring at the age of 31 (his age in TDK; he turns 30 in BB during his birthday party and it's stated in TDK that Batman appeared a year ago; TDKR takes place 8 years later, which means he will be 39). I can only see Bruce retiring as Batman due to old age.
So is anyone else really bothered by this? Or is it just me?
It is a radical departure from the comics, but I can forgive it. Nolanverse Bruce Wayne isn't as f***king crazy as most versions of Bruce are(excuse my language), and he doesn't want to spend the rest of his life punching people in the face in dark alleys. He wants a normal life, and he honestly believes the justice system can work on it's own when it isn't corrupt. To be fair also, the Nolanverse isn't nearly as filled with dangerous lunatics as the DCU is, so that also give this Bruce an excuse to relax a bit.
But even if you were to ignore the fact that it's a radical departure from the comics, the idea still doesn't work because it contradicts elements from The Dark Knight. It contradicts the message and development/character arc that Bruce had to learn and go through. So even if this movie wasn't an adaptation of Batman, it would still be a flaw. It would be a continuity error. If I was a movie critic, I would have criticized TDKR for going against everything Bruce learned and went through in TDK.
I might be wrong. I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't say for sure that this contradicts TDK. They might have found a way to make it work and for it to make sense without contradicting the last film. We'll have to wait and see but till then, it doesn't sound like a good idea to me (at least on paper).
He was on the run at the end of tdk. Taking the blame for two faces crimes in order to protect Dent. Dent inspired the public and the police force that wasn't corrupt to stand up to the criminals just like Batman did. So after the jokers capture and what I'm guessing the major round up in the mafia, Gotham was in peaceful times, which there was no need for Batman, plus Batman did have lots of injuries sustained during his year of crime fighting.
Oh and I watched Anne Hathaway's interview on Letterman, and he has seen a screening of the film, the douche says "and Batman dies at the end, nooo I'm joking."
Anne looked shocked for a moment but then recovered and started laughing.
Originally posted by thornthorn
Oh and I watched Anne Hathaway's interview on Letterman, and he has seen a screening of the film, the douche says "and Batman dies at the end, nooo I'm joking."Anne looked shocked for a moment but then recovered and started laughing.
Well Im not excited for this movie but personally I HIGHLY doubt batman will die. WB has said even though the nolan verse is ending they wanted the fans to feel like it's still continuing and that it is open to for more weather more would ever come or not. Bale even said he would do a 4 if nolan would. So Im pretty sure he wont die. Although, if batman does die in this movie I would hate it. That would kill the entire trilogy for me. I have read a lot of rumors about Joesph Gordon Levitt's character taking up the mantle after bruce dies and I think that would be really stupid also.
IDK though anything could happen
Originally posted by spidermanrocks
I've been wanting to bring this up for a while now but never did. I guess the best moment to do so in now before the movie is out.Is anyone else bothered by the fact that Bruce retires for 8 years in TDKR? To me, this completely destroys the whole character arc he had in TDK. TDK was about him coming to the realization that Batman is who he is and that he needs to be Batman forever (no pun intended) in order for Gotham to stay truly incorruptible. His original plan in Batman Begins was to be Batman for a few years until he he fixed Gotham and then his job would be finished and he'll hook up with Rachel. At the end of TDK, he realizes this will never be possible for him. Batman is who he is and who he always has to be. So doesn't him retiring from being Batman destroy all the character development and message Bruce went through and learned? Rachel herself even said she would have never been with him anyways because deep inside, they both knew he would never be able to give up Batman.
Plus, I don't see Batman retiring at the age of 31 (his age in TDK; he turns 30 in BB during his birthday party and it's stated in TDK that Batman appeared a year ago; TDKR takes place 8 years later, which means he will be 39). I can only see Bruce retiring as Batman due to old age.
So is anyone else really bothered by this? Or is it just me?
I haven't been following the film, so I didn't even know that was the case.
TBH, that would ruin the movie for me...
Reviews are pouring in.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight_rises/
I've also heard that it's better than TDK. I hope that's the case. This means the "third movie curse"(in terms of superhero films) will be broken and shows what happens when a studio doesn't try to rush a film out by a certain time and when they back off and let the director do what he wants. Usually when a studio backs off is when the writing is better. WB has let Nolan have creative freedom right from the get-go. That's something Sony didn't give Raimi for Spider-man 3 and what would have been Spider-man 4 had Raimi stayed on. It's not a tug-of-war between the director and producers over which characters are in because they're popular and is what "the fans want."
WB wanted Riddler. They didn't force him in the movie. The late Heath Ledger's performance as Joker was critically acclaimed. WB didn't force Nolan to recast him. Hollywood is now 3D crazy, but Nolan hates 3D. WB didn't force 3D upon him. And had WB really wanted to cash in on TDK's sucess, they would have rushed this film out for last year, instead of this year.
97% on Rotten Tomatoes O__O
"The form of the storm is a creature called Bane, an immense hulk with an air of courtly menace and, to reduce his pain, a tubular mask that looks like a small creature from the original Alien permanently leeched onto his face. Long ago, Bane escaped from a deep Asian pit where tough men were left to wither and die. Now he is the muscle, and possibly the brains, of the League of Shadows from Batman Begins. And he has a master plan to free — read: enslave — Bruce’s city, employing the ability to cloud men’s minds by lightly touching their heads and, even more effective, a four-megaton nuclear device. “I’m Gotham’s reckoning,†Bane proclaims. “I’m the borrowed time you’ve all been living on.â€"
Sounds like Bane will have the Venom drug or something similar after all. This is a relief. I thought he would turn out to be just a muscular guy.
I'm still bothered by the fact that he gave up being Batman for 8 years, especially since he gives up being Batman right after the night Harvey died. No one else is bothered by this but me and Bat Dude? It completely undoes Bruce's character arc in TDK. It makes no sense that a great director and writer like Chris Nolan would do this either. I tried to ignore it but it really bothers me.
There are 3 ways you can look at TDKR. You can look at it as a Batman movie, as just a movie, and as a sequel to TDK. I have no doubt it will be a really good movie and maybe a good Batman movie (I don't like some of the liberties they seem to took based on the trailers but I prefer to remain optimistic till I see the film) but I don't think it will be a good sequel to TDK because of that plot element. I know many people will disagree with me.
It bothers me to but a lot about this movie does. Anyways on point....from what nolan has done with batman it's cool and can be praised as a good movie! I give him props on being creative and telling his take on batman. Heck his bat suit was really awesome in both look and in function! However I disagree with people that refer to this a comic book movie. I feel that it is at the most a VERY loosely based representation of batman. This trilogy is to be the "realistic" version of batman but comic books are in exact opposition to realism and not meant to be taken realistically. I strongly believe that it will have a great story to tell but not without it's aforementioned problem. I will see it and enjoy the story but I enjoy to watch my comic books jump onto the screen and out of the book. I don't really care to see them be placed in real life and then on screen.
Although, I will say for a "realistic" batman it is still pretty unrealistic. Though I still dis-like the idea of realism this trilogy is based in but it does have a nice solid story! I feel that the 8 year jump might mean TDK was a meaningless story in the trilogy thus ruining the trilogy for me.