Silver Surfer vs Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by Philosophía
Whether Superman truly should/should not be capable of catching Thor's hammer like that is irrelevant, like I said. My point is that he had a very high showing against a character that is supposed to be in the same class and thus what I said about having another showing against a similar character (Surfer) in a similar comic wouldn't be that far fetched. Now arguing the details of the attack ("He should be exactly in the same position and react the same as Bill thus it wouldn't work!"😉 is a pointless discussion.

Rematch time.

Can Surfer take on, Bill with no limiters?peaches

http://h.imagehost.org/view/0737/brb_03_14
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0137/brb_03_15
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0137/brb_03_15
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0347/brb_03_16
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0738/brb_03_17

Ahhh! what happens after that??? O_O show! show!

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Ahhh! what happens after that??? O_O show! show!

Originally posted by id369
Rematch time.

Can Surfer take on, Bill with no limiters?peaches

Yes, all SS really needs to do is last until BRB goes critical and BOOM! SS wins. 🙂

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Yes, all SS really needs to do is last until BRB goes critical and BOOM! SS wins. 🙂

Since this is KMC, and not Marve Comics. One could always claim, that Storm Breaker could absorb and channel the excesses amount of energy. stoned

Originally posted by id369
Since this is KMC, and not Marve Comics. One could always claim, that Storm Breaker could absorb and channel the excesses amount of energy. stoned

Originally posted by darthgoober
If it absorbed the excess energy, wouldn't BRB be able to reap the benefit's of the initial amp?

You missed the part where the energy gets channeled. You know for productive purposes such as, blasting the Surfer.crackers

And it gets multpied 10 times for extra bang. uhuh

BAMpeaches

Originally posted by id369
You missed the part where the energy gets channeled. You know for productive purposes such as, blasting the Surfer.crackers

And it gets multpied 10 times for extra bang. uhuh

BAMpeaches

Cept that, at the end of the scan, he's lost his arms and legs. Besides, this amp was done when he was in his BRB form, not his Thor form, it can be argued that he is unable to do this in his Thor form since he has never done it in that form.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Cept that, at the end of the scan, he's lost his arms and legs. Besides, this amp was done when he was in his BRB form, not his Thor form, it can be argued that he is unable to do this in his Thor form since he has never done it in that form.

Not while he is holding Storm Breaker. That energy gets absorbed and channeled through contact. He wont face going into critical mass, just recycle the accesses amount energy in a productive manner. Like blasting Surfer shiny smirk 10 times over.grumpy

Anyhow, I think its within reason for Beta Ray Bill, to have his limiters removed even if he wields Storm Breaker. The reason is because, he is still a Cyborg (albeit an Enchanted Cyborg). This is clearly shown, when he took damage from Nemesis in “Storm Breaker”.

http://h.imagehost.org/view/0459/Stormbreaker_6_16-17

Originally posted by id369
Not while he is holding Storm Breaker. That energy gets absorbed and channeled through contact. He wont face going into critical mass, just recycle the accesses amount energy in a productive manner. Like blasting Surfer shiny smirk 10 times over.grumpy

Anyhow, I think its within reason for Beta Ray Bill, to have his limiters removed even if he wields Storm Breaker. The reason is because, he is still a Cyborg (albeit an Enchanted Cyborg). This is clearly shown, when he took damage from Nemesis in “Storm Breaker”.

http://h.imagehost.org/view/0459/Stormbreaker_6_16-17

Hehe, I think that if he had access to this ability before, he would have been able to use it on that very scan. After all, he was going all out there and didn't care about himself. If he had a suicide ability, that wouldn't have killed him in the first place (as he would have "absorbed" the excess energy), he would have used it on Nemesis in "Storm Breaker". 😉

Nah I wouldn’t go that far. We are talking about Marvel here. It’s limiter falls into a conjured DEM, in efforts to progress the plot.

I can see Silver Surfer winning 6/10 or so. An argument could be made for Beta Ray Bill though.

Their recent fight isn't enough to dictate whose more powerful though from what we saw. Off panel fights rarely do.

Wouldn't it be awesome if BRB released his limiters and channelled the powaaaa through Stormbreaker?

Now THAT'S a godblast!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can see Silver Surfer winning 6/10 or so. An argument could be made for Beta Ray Bill though.

Their recent fight isn't enough to dictate whose more powerful though from what we saw. Off panel fights rarely do.

Nah. Surfer 10/10. 😄

BRB already lost on-panel before the fight went off-panel.

Basically, Surfer is faster and while his energy blast and melee attacks might be matched/defended against by BRB, Bill has little against a long-range physical attack that moves at many times FTL that can attack from a different direction (board blitz).

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Nah. Surfer 10/10. 😄

BRB already lost on-panel before the fight went off-panel.

Basically, Surfer is faster and while his energy blast and melee attacks might be matched/defended against by BRB, Bill has little against a long-range physical attack that moves at many times FTL that can attack from a different direction (board blitz).

Silver Surfer 10/10? Don't be silly.

How did he lose on panel before it went off panel? That doesn't make sense. Did we read the same issue? He punches Beta Ray Bill with an amped strike and next thing we see, is Beta Ray Bill being contained. What the hell happened? Is there a reason Beta Ray Bill didn't simply absorb the energy or break out, outside of plot?

So what if his faster? As shown Beta Ray Bill can handle it just fine. They were going faster than light, and Beta Ray Bill still knocked him on his ass.

Really? Are we forgetting that Beta Ray Bill, didn't see the attack coming from behind and he wouldn't be as unprepared again? Are we forgetting that Beta Ray Bill can create Force Fields to basically protect himself from such an attack making it pointless, like he did in that issue?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Silver Surfer 10/10? Don't be silly.

Prove me wrong. 😛

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How did he lose on panel before it went off panel? That doesn't make sense. Did we read the same issue? He punches Beta Ray Bill with an amped strike and next thing we see, is Beta Ray Bill being contained. What the hell happened? Is there a reason Beta Ray Bill didn't simply absorb the energy or break out, outside of plot?

Bill was already getting thrashed on panel before it even proceeded off panel.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, that is NOT a force bubble that he can break out of/absorb. Those are his own energies that was simply fizzling out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So what if his faster? As shown Beta Ray Bill can handle it just fine. They were going faster than light, and Beta Ray Bill still knocked him on his ass.

And that did HOW much damage to the Surfer? None. FYI, the Surfer's been thrown off his board before, doesn't really mean he's been injured by it.

While when Surfer punches BRB, he bleeds all over the place.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? Are we forgetting that Beta Ray Bill, didn't see the attack coming from behind and he wouldn't be as unprepared again? Are we forgetting that Beta Ray Bill can create Force Fields to basically protect himself from such an attack making it pointless, like he did in that issue?

Um, he deflected/absorbed the energy attacks with his hammer, true. But nothing there shows that he could deflect the board as it comes or that he could even react to it. The fight lasted too short for them to be using a wide range of powers.

Thing is, short fights with a decisive winner = ownage.

The fight in the comic was okay. Though, I don't see SS winning every time using an attack from the back. I'd say SS wins 7-8/10 vs BRB

since bill has never shown the exotic use of his powers that thor has, ss wins the healthy majority--i'd say 8/10.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Wouldn't it be awesome if BRB released his limiters and channelled the powaaaa through Stormbreaker?

Now THAT'S a godblast!