Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Ok so SBP could stop juggernaut from moving forward maybe and possibly push him back. Still doesn't help him win the fight in 12 hours, unless BFRing is allowed. You should post the scan where Juggs takes a full blast of thors godblast and it doesn't even phase him.
SBP kills Juggs
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm unaware of any instance that suggests that Juggernaut requires momentum for his unstoppability to be in effect except for the movie version in X-Men: The Last Stand. From a slow paced walk, he's literally trampled over people like Masterson Thor, etc.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's not generous. It appears to be more logical to me in all respects. If he was being pushed back, than the force wouldn't be driven downward, a force strong enough to destroy even the fortified foundations of the X-Mansion.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Adamantium shards shooting out from tanks, helicopters and modified BFG's are propelled with far more penetrating force than Wolverine could ever muster.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
There are several points where you see his rage increase substantially before Worldbreaker mode: (i) when Ironman rains napalm on him and it reminds him of Caiera burning to ashes, he goes nuts; (ii) after being repelled from his mind the first time, Dr. Strange comments how much angrier he gets upon defeating Reed and the FF and confronting the Champions; (iii) after he overcomes Dr. Strange's attempts and goes ballistic confronting General Ross, his perrenial arch-nemesis; (iv) when Miek impales Rick Jones and he starts pounding him.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I was comparing the power of the godblast to both War Hulk's and World War Hulk's feats. Mindless Hulk kicked the crap out of the Avengers, but basically evenly matched classic Thor. I'm not knocking Mindless Hulk, since I consider that to be more of a testament to classic Thor's unfettered power.
IMO even though he didn't have many feats, Worldbreaker Hulk is the strongest Hulk - over War Hulk, WWH, and Red Hulk. So I think we're in agreement there: Worldbreaker would wipe the floor with Juggernaut and War Hulk.
Out of curiosity, what do you make of Warrior Madness Thor only being able to stalemate Savage Maestro Hulk in Hulk 440?
Shosu-whatever your name is.... Juggernaut's abilities are mystical in nature yes, but just because they're magic based, doesn't mean that he uses magic. He was granted extreme strength and durability through magical means, but no ones ever been like, I'm immune to magic Juggernaut, so your punches don't work on me.
Originally posted by shokosugi
Magic is useless against SBP and without magic Juggernaut is useless.get that through your greasy heads.
Juggernauts strength is increased by magic. Superman doesn't negate magic. It just doesn't hurt him. Juggernauts not going to be hitting him with magical fist, he's going to be hitting him with class 100+ fist. You seem to be the only person who doesn't understand that. And either way it doesn't matter, as has been stated 1,000 of times already, juggernaut is invulnerable to physical harm.
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Juggernauts strength is increased by magic. Superman doesn't negate magic. It just doesn't hurt him. Juggernauts not going to be hitting him with magical fist, he's going to be hitting him with class 100+ fist. You seem to be the only person who doesn't understand that. And either way it doesn't matter, as has been stated 1,000 of times already, juggernaut is invulnerable to physical harm.
stated 1000 times? a picture is worth 1000 words 🙂
KingD19,
This is what he did to Black Adam. another one of those mystically/magically-enhanced characters.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/superman%20prime%20vs.%20black%20adam/Saturn695/scan0021-1.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/superman%20prime%20vs.%20black%20adam/Saturn695/scan0022-1.jpg
Originally posted by shokosugi
KingD19,This is what he did to Black Adam. another one of those mystically/magically-enhanced characters.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/superman%20prime%20vs.%20black%20adam/Saturn695/scan0021-1.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/superman%20prime%20vs.%20black%20adam/Saturn695/scan0022-1.jpg
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So wait in these scans you have Black Adam, who's magical, but not magically invulnerable. You then have him smacking superman around for a bit, then getting backhanded. So you proved absolutely nothing?
Black Adam's invulnerability comes from Magic. that's the "S" in Shazam.
S for the stamina of Shu
Using Shu's endurance, Black Adam can withstand and survive most types of extreme physical assaults. Additionally, he does not need to eat, sleep, or breathe and can survive unaided in space.
Originally posted by shokosugi^ wiki much?
Black Adam's invulnerability comes from Magic. that's the "S" in Shazam.S for the stamina of Shu
Using Shu's endurance, Black Adam can withstand and survive most types of extreme physical assaults. Additionally, he does not need to eat, sleep, or breathe and can survive unaided in space.
Originally posted by shokosugi
what for? if Onsluaght can do that to him SBP can do much worse.
You're not getting it. Onslaught(Nearing god hood, and being mostly psionic in nature) ripped the Gem of Cytorrak from Cain's chest, then sent him flying. Removing the gem(the source of his power), allowed him to hit him like that. And SBP can wail on Cain all he wants, his power is invulnerability to harm. All SBP can do is punch and use heat vision, or whoop de doo. Juggs stands there, takes it, and probably gets a few good hits in for a laugh.
At best, you can make the case for SBP being immune to offensive magic cast his way. Seeing as how he shrugged off magical attacks.
Juggernaut's invulnerability is a defensive quality. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that SBP somehow negates his invulnerability because you think he's totally immune to magic.
