runner vs black racer

Started by xJLxKing7 pages
xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Naija boy
Ehem Ehem, are u blind? 😛 Its Naija boy 😠

My bad, my bad!! I always mistake your name for ninja

It's up for debate because Flash recently stated that Death can't go lightspeed.

His opinion 😠 😈 😮‍💨

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by xJLxKing
His opinion 😠 😈 😮‍💨

Unless I'm mistaken, he called it a little known fact(or something to that effect).

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Unless I'm mistaken, he called it a little known fact(or something to that effect).

What issue is that?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What issue is that?

I'm not sure, I've just sen the scan(though now that I think of it I need to check that issue out). Ask Eny, I'm pretty sure he's the one who posted it.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What issue is that?

FC #3

kgkg Vigilante

Another important note is that flash were escaping The Black Racer by running so many thousand times faster than "sound".

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
Another important note is that flash were escaping The Black Racer by running so many thousand times faster than "sound".


Isn't that just the start after the saw the bullet? They kept increasing speed.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's up for debate because Flash recently stated that Death can't go lightspeed.
False because he did go beyond light speed it.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Isn't that just the start after the saw the bullet? They kept increasing speed.
Yes. They escaped by accelerating toward the speed of light.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
False because he did go beyond light speed it.

When was he clocked at FTL speeds?

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
Yes. They escaped by accelerating toward the speed of light.

I never saw them escape. He was going for DS.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
When was he clocked at FTL speeds?
I posted the scans he breached the sigularity as did the Flashes that = flt

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
I posted the scans he breached the sigularity as did the Flashes that = flt

Or it equals an abstract concept of death that can fly, turn intagible, and "always gets his man" not being affected by the gravity, or a writer just not thinking things through. You're using conjecture to prove that he CAN go FTL when it was outright STATED that he couldn't. It's not a very strong case for you...

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Or it equals an abstract concept of death that can fly not being affected by gravity, or a writer just not thinking things through. You're using conjecture to prove that he CAN go FTL when it was outright STATED that he couldn't. It's not a very strong case for you...
Yeah ok goober the scan speaks for it's self Barry states they were running faster than they ever had and Wally says he's still gaining then they ALL breach the singularity it's right there on panel. I guess my case is weak if you want to ignore all of what was said and done on panel but whatever your just as stubborn as me 😬

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member
Originally posted by darthgoober
Or it equals an abstract concept of death that can fly, turn intagible, and "always gets his man" not being affected by the gravity, or a writer just not thinking things through. You're using conjecture to prove that he CAN go FTL when it was outright STATED that he couldn't. It's not a very strong case for you...

This is often true...

iceman24567 Senior Member

Except Wally and Barry gave us "the readers" the impression that they were moving FTL 😐

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Black Racer, ftw.

As far as I'm aware, there's no evidence that Runner is capable of breaching time itself, and running to a point in time where everything (in the literal sense) ceases to exist. That said, what the hell is Runner going to do? Because he certainly won't be replicating Wally's feat.

Here's another little 'Flash Fact' for ya: It was stated that BF/BR's mere presence in 'our' dimension completely mucks with time itself. Thus, anyone who isn't well adept with the speed force, slows to an absolute stop.

Also, it certainly seems to me like the Flashs'/BR/BF were moving at superluminal speeds:

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah ok goober the scan speaks for it's self Barry states they were running faster than they ever had and Wally says he's still gaining then they ALL breach the singularity it's right there on panel. I guess my case is weak if you want to ignore all of what was said and done on panel but whatever your just as stubborn as me 😬

I'm not making any claims in regards to Black Racer/Flash's speed, I've already pointed out that I haven't even read the issue yet. I answered why it was up for debate and you said that I was wrong. I asked when he was clocked at FTL speeds and you gave what you interpreted as evidence that PROVED I was wrong(which is funny because all I did was answer as to what everyone else was debating) so I gave a couple of other potential scenarios.

As far as I'm concerned, one way or another you're disregarding what's been portrayed as being canon. Feel free to disregard whichever writer you want depending on your own personal taste and opinion, but saying that people are outright "lying", "wrong", or "unreasonable" just because they've chosen to acknowledge the work of another writer from the same damn arc seems more than a little arrogant no matter WHICH side you agree with.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007

Also, it certainly seems to me like the Flashs'/BR/BF were moving at superluminal speeds:

They say they have to reach superluminal speeds, which means they are at max, lightspeed in the scan, and BR is going slower than that.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mindset
They say they have to reach superluminal speeds, which means they are at max, lightspeed in the scan, and BR is going slower than that.
The Flashs' had to reach superluminal speeds to accomplish their goal. They accomplished their goal. They were going superluminal. Black Racer's daggers were nearly touching them in the fourth panel. He was going superluinal as well. End of story.

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