The General Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
he knows his own strategy, you're aware of that, he knows that you're aware of it. you know that he knows you're aware of it. and he knows that you know that he knows...well point is it appears you are determined to find water in a stone.

^^This right here is bullshit. The "plenty of sensible people discuss it" is irrelevant when the loudest voices spew bullshit. When the most powerful man in the world spews this.

But shit Trump lies about a crowd size and it's time to meltdown.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
he knows his own strategy, you're aware of that, he knows that you're aware of it. you know that he knows you're aware of it. and he knows that you know that he knows...well point is it appears you are determined to find water in a stone.

Originally posted by Surtur
How many nice ass comments does it take to get the the sexual harassment?

Originally posted by Scribble
That man is taking part in an ongoing example of men harassing women.

You said context, I'm giving you it. A single lone man says nice ass one time. How many times does he need to further utter it before it is sexual harassment?

I mean I dunno, it depends on how many women you know and how well you know them. I know many women who deal with this kind of shit to varying extremes on the reg. Some of them have been attacked or threatened. So to me, "Nice ass" is just another part of a big problem that affects real people on a day-to-day basis.

Originally posted by Scribble
Yeah idefk at this point

Except he knows, and you should know, what *he* is spewing is bullshit. I never argued nobody is sensible over this. I am talking about people like Obama saying it. I am talking about other people that people actually listen to saying these things.

I give two shits if some random feminist is sensible about it when Barack Obama is running his mouth in front of millions about it.

Sorry if that bothers you, but it's utter bullshit. It never gets called out in the way it should, they keep their mouths closed.

Originally posted by Surtur
You said context, I'm giving you it. A single lone man says nice ass one time. How many times does he need to further utter it before it is sexual harassment?

Originally posted by Surtur
Except he knows, and you should know, what *he* is spewing is bullshit. I never argued nobody is sensible over this. I am talking about people like Obama saying it. I am talking about other people that people actually listen to saying these things.

I give two shits if some random feminist is sensible about it when Barack Obama is running his mouth in front of millions about it.

Sorry if that bothers you, but it's utter bullshit. It never gets called out in the way it should, they keep their mouths closed.

Originally posted by Scribble
How many times does he say it per day, and to how many women? Is it his first time saying it? Does he say it to every woman with a nice ass that he sees? If so, he's a harasser. And most men who say it probably do say it regularly or semi-regularly. A man who doesn't say it normally would have to see a genuinely heavenly butt to randomly blurt it out.

It's one man. He sees a woman. Says nice ass. She doesn't even respond. As she is walking, how many more nice ass comments is he allowed before it becomes harassment? Lets say hes never done it before to her or anyone.

Originally posted by Scribble
But you're still more concerned about this than you are women being assaulted and harassed. I can tell this because of how much you focus on the one thing and not the other.

I'm concerned about it all, but you seem to be saying it's irrelevant bullshit is spewed because some women still suffer.

That's a big No.

I want people to call out the obvious lies with the same passion they whine over Trump lying about a crowd size.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's one man. He sees a woman. Says nice ass. She doesn't even respond. As she is walking, how many more nice ass comments is he allowed before it becomes harassment? Lets say hes never done it before to her or anyone.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's one man. He sees a woman. Says nice ass. She doesn't even respond. As she is walking, how many more nice ass comments is he allowed before it becomes harassment? Lets say hes never done it before to her or anyone.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm concerned about it all, but you seem to be saying it's irrelevant bullshit is spewed because some women still suffer.

That's a big No.

I want people to call out the obvious lies with the same passion they whine over Trump lying about a crowd size.

Originally posted by Scribble
If it's the first time that he's said it then hopefully he doesn't continue, else he'll become a part of an ongoing example of self-entitled straight male harassment

Okay I literally gave you context, you still haven't given me a number.

It's not a rape culture, but it sure as hell seems to be a sexual harassment culture, and that's only a few steps away from a rape culture. It shouldn't be overblown but it also shouldn't be diminished.

Originally posted by Scribble
I'm saying that prioritising safety is more important and should be the main priority. Yes you should call out bullshit, but not in a way that trivialises the issue at hand.

I never said trivialize it. But it never gets called out like it should. And frankly it's god damn insulting to women who live in *actual* rape cultures.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay I literally gave you context, you still haven't given me a number.

Originally posted by Scribble
It's not a rape culture, but it sure as hell seems to be a sexual harassment culture, and that's only a few steps away from a rape culture. It shouldn't be overblown but it also shouldn't be diminished.

I didn't diminish it. Saying "we're not a rape culture" doesn't diminish it.

I could easily take a handful of anecdotal experiences from men and say we live in a "lie about rape" culture too. Since we have multiple instances of women lying about being raped and suffering no consequences.

Originally posted by Scribble
It doesn't need a number. Things like this aren't easy enough to just slap a number on. Why is a number important, more important than the full context I've given you?

Lol before you implied the number of times it is done is a factor. I think it's fair to ask how many.

i was sexually assaulted twice between the ages of 17-19. i think that's what it's called when a girl grabs your penis without consent. as far as i remember, neither girl had great wealth nor power (like trump), so they obviously had no inherent right to just grab onto my weewee like that. i guess that means that i just proved feminism is bad and rape culture is moot, coz reasons.