Griffin versus Nightcrawler.....

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't be an ass with that, as I obviously have.

The guys Griffon drops as shark feed were already dead, that is irrelevant though, if he jumps NC into the water, NC can teleport out, it's not like he's going to be able to jump him directly in a sharks mouth.

Griffon's ability to jump buses and cars is also not going to help him, NC avoids gun fire from multiple opponents, Secret Service agents to be exact, so avoiding a bus isn't going to be a problem.

When it comes to short range jumping or teleporting in regards to performing an attack, NC's White House scene was far more impressive than the Coliseum, cave lair or any other scene from Jumper.

Put Griffon in the White House scene; he's going to get shot in the Oval Office part. /the end

And you can honestly say that NC jumps faster that Griffin?

How is Griffin faster?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And where is NC gonna teleport to? If he is in the damn ocean, far under the water, how is he gonna escape? NC has to see where he is jumping too.

And you can honestly say that NC jumps faster that Griffin?

He can teleport up and out. Sharks are not deep water hunters. He doesn't have to see, just not seeing he runs the risk of teleporting into something solid and dying.

Yes, that White House seen he did several teleports/attacks in just as many seconds, he definitely has the speed, agility and fighting skill advantage here. That WH scene was far more impressive than anything Griffon did.

Originally posted by Robtard
He can teleport up and out. Sharks are not deep water hunters. He doesn't have to see, just not seeing he runs the risk of teleporting into something solid and dying.

Yes, that White House seen he did several teleports/attacks in just as many seconds, he definitely has the speed, agility and fighting skill advantage here. That WH scene was far more impressive than anything Griffon did.

His farthest jump was probably when he caught Rogue when she fell out of the X-jet, that should be sufficient.

And about how far was that?

400 miles

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK answer this. How far did NC jump each time? Just guesstimate it.

As Mindset said above, Rogue was sucked out of the jet, and by the time he jumped out to get her and jumped back in, that jet was probably several miles away, considering it was traveling at a high rate of speed.

That is going to be more than enough to TP close enough to Griffin multiple times and kick is ass. If Griffin wants to attack him, he's going to stay close too.

Edit: I'd have to watch the movie again, but I think NC can TP to anywhere he's been before/knows it's safe. Regardless, this fight is going to be them TPing close to each other and attacking, NC with his fist, feet and tail, Griffin with whatever he can get his hands on. NC would win with his superior skills.

Originally posted by Robtard

Edit: I'd have to watch the movie again, but I think NC can TP to anywhere he's been before/knows it's safe.

Originally posted by Mindset
400 miles

Well there you go, a few miles.

You already knew the answer 🙂

NC can also keep teleporting in the air to travel across something like the sea.

Totally irrelevant, but just wanted to point that out.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Pretty sure he cant. Lemmee know when you find out.

Not sure I'll watch that movie again/soon. But where was he hiding when Xavier found him with Cerebro? As it wasn't long after the attack on the President that that happened.

And Griffin cant?

Heres the deal, as they face off, they dont know where the other is jumping to. If Griffin jumps to his lair and comes back with a flamethrower, NC has no idea where Griffin will appear. Likewise, Griffin has no idea where NC will be upon his return. Seeing as Griffin is likely not gonna go h2h with NC, all he would have to do is keep jumping around until he has a clear shot. Hell, he could jump somewhere, grab a rifle, jump back and unload on NC. NC dodged pistols shots, not a full auto machine gun or a flame thrower.

Only way NC wins is if he is lucky enough to catch Griffin up close, and that aint gonna happen.

And again, Griffin knocked Sam Jackson through a frigging stone wall.

Griffin jumps faster, this is painfully obvious, youtube it. And he also can jump a FAR greater distance.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure I'll watch that movie again/soon. But where was he hiding when Xavier found him with Cerebro? As it wasn't long after the attack on the President that that happened.

Another thing: NC had issues with jumping through a wall to save X, didnt he? Well, even Rice Bowl could jump through a wall.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not a good point, hours could have passed.

Another thing: NC had issues with jumping through a wall to save X, didnt he? Well, even Rice Bowl could jump through a wall.

Why does he need to jump through a wall?

The only problem is he doesn't know whats on the other side. I'm sure Griffin wouldn't end well either if he teleported inside a wall .

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Griffin cant?

Heres the deal, as they face off, they dont know where the other is jumping to. If Griffin jumps to his lair and comes back with a flamethrower, NC has no idea where Griffin will appear. Likewise, Griffin has no idea where NC will be upon his return. Seeing as Griffin is likely not gonna go h2h with NC, all he would have to do is keep jumping around until he has a clear shot. Hell, he could jump somewhere, grab a rifle, jump back and unload on NC. NC dodged pistols shots, not a full auto machine gun or a flame thrower.

Only way NC wins is if he is lucky enough to catch Griffin up close, and that aint gonna happen.

And again, Griffin knocked Sam Jackson through a frigging stone wall.

Griffin jumps faster, this is painfully obvious, youtube it. And he also can jump a FAR greater distance.

He can also tp/jump, that isn't the issue.

Flamethrower isn't going to tag NC if multiple guns couldn't, if anything, NC would TP out of the flames path and use that as an opportunity to attack Griffin while he's busy flaming away.

Why do you assume Griffin wouldn't attack up close with a bat, knife or other handheld weapon, as he did it many a time in the film?

Sam Jackson has nothing on NC. NC would have just tp'd out of Griffin's grasp before the wall slamming.

No, that White House scene is faster and more skillful than anything in Jumper. Watch it.

Originally posted by Placidity
Why does he need to jump through a wall?

The only problem is he doesn't know whats on the other side. I'm sure Griffin wouldn't end well either if he teleported inside a wall .

Just saying that is a weakness he has that Griffin doesnt.

Originally posted by Robtard
He can also tp/jump, that isn't the issue.

Flamethrower isn't going to tag NC if multiple guns couldn't, if anything, NC would TP out of the flames path and use that as an opportunity to attack Griffin while he's busy flaming away.

Why do you assume Griffin wouldn't attack up close with a bat, knife or other handheld weapon, as he did it many a time in the film?

Sam Jackson has nothing on NC. NC would have just tp'd out of Griffin's grasp before the wall slamming.

No, that White House scene is faster and more skillful than anything in Jumper. Watch it.

And Griffin can TP around like a madman taking the flamethrower with him.

Griffin isn't gonna attack NC with a bat or a knife, he isn't stupid, he'd realize he is outclassed h2h and use other tactics.

The white house scene was more skillful h2h, yes. But this fight wouldnt be h2h, unless NC gets extremely lucky and gets in close on Griffin. And if he does, or if Griffin decides to go h2h, he will see in a few seconds his mistake, jump away, and return with a bus or some shit to throw at NC. And if NC dodges, big deal, Griffin jumps away, FAR away, farther than NC can dream of, and returns with something else. Eventually NC would get hit, HARD.

Griffin can jump farther and faster, I keep saying this, the proof is in the movies. And the scene where Griffin tosses Sam through a stone wall shows he is as strong if not stronger than NC.

Any argument saying NC is a faster jumper than Rice Bowl and Griffin is futile, the jumpers in Jumper are on another level.

Originally posted by Mindset
How is Griffin faster?