Lizard vs. The Thing

Started by KingD1914 pages

I don't think if Connors let the lizard out all the way, he could simply regain control like that.

Originally posted by KingD19
^But while he's going for Ben's eyes, he's leaving himself open to get thrashed. Considering Ben's fighting skill, I say you're underrating him.
it's not as if his eyes are llizard's only option. lizard does have sufficient power:

here he demolishes a city street:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/SpectacularSpider-Manv21308.jpg

not only that, but how could ben expect to hit him, when johnny is having a hell of a hard time doing so here?:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/Asmv1077-13.jpg

Originally posted by KingD19
I don't think if Connors let the lizard out all the way, he could simply regain control like that.

Yes, he could. Read Paul Jenkin's Lizard's Tale.

Ben's taken harder hits than that and come up no worse for wear. Imagine what a Hulk punch would have done to that street.

And I'm not saying Ben just pummels on him relentlessly, but he does get some hits in, and those are the ones that count.

Originally posted by namorsubby
not only that, but how could ben expect to hit him, when johnny is having a hell of a hard time doing so here?:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/Asmv1077-13.jpg

Wow, haven't seen that. Awesome.

Originally posted by KingD19
Ben's taken harder hits than that and come up no worse for wear. Imagine what a Hulk punch would have done to that street.

And I'm not saying Ben just pummels on him relentlessly, but he does get some hits in, and those are the ones that count.

How could he get some hits in? He has a really hard time tagging Wolverine or Blade... The Lizard is faster than both.

Originally posted by d3str0ya10
therefore this is the finally answer if the thing happens to get his hands on the lizard which is a 3/10 chance and crushes the lizard he regenertaes the crushed bones and he howls for his companions and they smother the thing till lizard heals and then he pile on top of that and they kill the thing with there acid spitting.

You mentioned that the fight is taking place in the sewers, but adding Lizardmen over which The Lizard has telepathic control is just a cruelty.

But saying he never hits him is ridiculous. Thing has some pretty decent agility feats.
Getting in front of an arrow fired from close range - http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/466/thingarrowuv5.jpg
Thing climbing straight up a metal shaft as fast as Iron Man is flying - http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9769/benworkoutchains1vn4.jpg

Originally posted by KingD19
But saying he never hits him is ridiculous.

Why? The fight ain't gonna last forever. Sooner or later Ben would tire or get his eyes gouged out or throat blocked up by Lizard's severed arm. Although I admit, the last one is pretty hardcore and insecure strategy.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Funny thing is that Reed would probably reverse Lizard back to Curt, but he wouldn't do the same for Thing.

He tried, as hard as he could, but failed.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
He tried, as hard as he could, but failed.

I think we both know that he's just a s.o.b. 🙂

[QUOTE=11780116]Originally posted by BUSTER1
[B]He tried, as hard as he could, but failed. Its a case of he COULDN'T cure Ben not WOULDN'T cure him

Going by that logic, I could say sooner or later Lizard's going to get tired and Ben pops his head like a melon. Going by the fights they've had, Ben has more stamina. He's fouhght Champion, Namor, Thor, Hulk, and held his own for long amounts of time. He's not getting tired first. And for the record, he's actually beaten Namor underwater, where he's strongest.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I think we both know that he's just a s.o.b. 🙂

He tried, as hard as he could, but failed. Its a case of he COULDN'T cure Ben not WOULDN'T cure him

Originally posted by KingD19
Going by that logic, I could say sooner or later Lizard's going to get tired and Ben pops his head like a melon. Going by the fights they've had, Ben has more stamina. He's fouhght Champion, Namor, Thor, Hulk, and held his own for long amounts of time. He's not getting tired first. And for the record, he's actually beaten Namor underwater, where he's strongest.

I don't know who has greater stamina.

The fight is taking place in the sewers. NYC sewers I guess. It's basically Lizard's kingdom. He could retreat only to come up with a surprise attack later.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
He tried, as hard as he could, but failed. Its a case of he COULDN'T cure Ben not WOULDN'T cure him

I know, I know. Just kiddin'. Relax.

OK Stiltman, I'll let you off off.

If he retreats, it gives Ben a chance to rest as well.

And think about it, Lizard routinely fights Spider-Man and other heroes/villains around that level. Ben fights Class 100+ bruisers like Hulk, Namor, Hercules, Colossus. What do you think is more draining?

Wailing on Spider-Man, or fighting guys whose fist knock over buildings?

Ben has the advantage in raw power for sure. But raw power isn't everything. Not when you have some weak points which could be exploited.

I wasn't just talking about raw power, I was talking about stamina as well. Each of Ben's fights is roughly 10 times more strenuous than Lizards. Plus Ben's only real weak point is his eyes, and his eyelids are just as tough as the rest of him, close his eyes, problem solved.

Plus, if Connor's is in control, his fighting will be terrible, the whole reason Lizard is a good fighter if because of his animalistic savagery, if Connor's is in control, he doesn't have that, and his fighting skills are sub par at best. While Ben is an accomplished boxer and street fighter.

Originally posted by KingD19
I wasn't just talking about raw power, I was talking about stamina as well. Each of Ben's fights is roughly 10 times more strenuous than Lizards. Plus Ben's only real weak point is his eyes, and his eyelids are just as tough as the rest of him, close his eyes, problem solved.

Plus, if Connor's is in control, his fighting will be terrible, the whole reason Lizard is a good fighter if because of his animalistic savagery, if Connor's is in control, he doesn't have that, and his fighting skills are sub par at best. While Ben is an accomplished boxer and street fighter.

👆 With you all the way on that bud. Ben would destroy him.