Lizard vs. The Thing

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StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by KingD19
But Wolverine can heal from being dropped in molten steel, and being fried down to a skeleton. I doubt Lizard can heal to that extent. Plus, Logan has claws that can cut through anything, I doubt Lizard can do that either, he can barely cut through concrete.

The Thing couldn't tag Logan 😐 Lizard is faster than him. Do the math. And his recuperative abilities are good enough, just ask namorsubby.

Claws that can cut through anything... yes, that's a huge advantage. But even without adamantium Wolverine did extremely well against Skrull Thing. Hell, he stalemated him.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Skrull's are a lot weaker than the original. Skrull Black Bolt's full scream barely even slowed down WWH, I guarantee you the real Bolt's full scream would have done much more damage. In a new series when Vulcan and the Imp Guard attack the Inhumans, Gladiator was about to die from a Bolt scream, but they cut off his voice.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Thing couldn't tag Logan 😐 Lizard is faster than him. Do the math. And his recuperative abilities are good enough, just ask namorsubby.

Claws that can cut through anything... yes, that's a huge advantage. But even without adamantium Wolverine did extremely well against Skrull Thing. Hell, he stalemated him.


good point stillman i see you are still enjoying my thread im enjoying that =D. caus eits my first one but anyway thnks for backn my homeboy lizard up =D

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If the Thing gets his hands on the Lizard, or lands a clean hit, he wins.

first of all not true lizard would regenerate from any thing he fell off a building and took many cuts and injuries to his neck and had his arm ripped off and he didnt die instead he yelled in agony and jumped down the sewer to regenerate and fight another day. and if you didnt know lizards have rubbery bones.
Originally posted by KingD19
But Wolverine can heal from being dropped in molten steel, and being fried down to a skeleton. I doubt Lizard can heal to that extent. Plus, Logan has claws that can cut through anything, I doubt Lizard can do that either, he can barely cut through concrete.
and he can regenerate to that extent he can regenerate limbs and ripped off body parts stabs woulds to the neck and having his neck broken like when he fell off a building on his head.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by KingD19
Skrull's are a lot weaker than the original. Skrull Black Bolt's full scream barely even slowed down WWH, I guarantee you the real Bolt's full scream would have done much more damage. In a new series when Vulcan and the Imp Guard attack the Inhumans, Gladiator was about to die from a Bolt scream, but they cut off his voice.

True, Skrulls are much weaker.

BC Wolverine has beaten Hercules, though. That just proves that intelligent fighting tactics and exploiting vulnerabilities are enough to take down hard targets, so called heavy hitters.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

True, his bones are rubbery, and true, he can regenerate, but when a guy whose Class 100 gets a full strength, clean hit to your head, you're not getting up. And he can't regenerate from everything that Thing can do to him, like rip him in half. Hell, if Thing does any major damage, he still wins the fight, even if Lizard heals.

As for Wolverine beating Hercules, it's nothing special, he takes down heavy hitters all the time, he's f*ckin Wolverine.

I'd like to see Lizard take down Thing in the sewers with, no way to hurt him except try to gouge his eyes out.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by d3str0ya10
good point stillman i see you are still enjoying my thread im enjoying that =D. caus eits my first one but anyway thnks for backn my homeboy lizard up =D

Yeah, it's a good thread. You see, Lizard is a criminally underrated villain. Not many Spidey rogues has that good track record.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by KingD19
I'd like to see Lizard take down Thing in the sewers with, no way to hurt him except try to gouge his eyes out.

You realize he could try to drown Ben? All he has to do is damaging some major pipes. Of course it depends how deep in the sewers the fight takes place. Thing is good at swimming, but Lizard's better... he'd be ready for Ben when he finally makes his way out of the water. He'd hide in the shadows and wait for the right moment to strike.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by KingD19
True, his bones are rubbery, and true, he can regenerate, but when a guy whose Class 100 gets a full strength, clean hit to your head, you're not getting up. And he can't regenerate from everything that Thing can do to him, like rip him in half. Hell, if Thing does any major damage, he still wins the fight, even if Lizard heals.

As for Wolverine beating Hercules, it's nothing special, he takes down heavy hitters all the time, he's f*ckin Wolverine.

I'd like to see Lizard take down Thing in the sewers with, no way to hurt him except try to gouge his eyes out.


well there is one other way to hurt him he could summon a whole bunch of other lizard that spit acid and melt his rocks down enough to get a considerably hard hit on him plus with those claws of his if the other lizards burn off enough of rock he could clear out with a bite and severly infect the thing.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

WEll, considering in the comics he can't summon lizards who spit acid, that plan is a no go. And I don't think there is an acid strong enough to eat through Thing's skin. And a considerably hard hit from someone in Lizards strength class is nothing to Ben. Video games don't work here.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by KingD19
True, his bones are rubbery, and true, he can regenerate, but when a guy whose Class 100 gets a full strength, clean hit to your head, you're not getting up. And he can't regenerate from everything that Thing can do to him, like rip him in half. Hell, if Thing does any major damage, he still wins the fight, even if Lizard heals.

As for Wolverine beating Hercules, it's nothing special, he takes down heavy hitters all the time, he's f*ckin Wolverine.

I'd like to see Lizard take down Thing in the sewers with, no way to hurt him except try to gouge his eyes out.


well there is one other way to hurt him he could summon a whole bunch of other lizard that spit acid and melt his rocks down enough to get a considerably hard hit on him plus with those claws of his if the other lizards burn off enough of rock he could clear out with a bite and severly infect the thing.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Telepathic control over reptiles is within Lizard's powerset.

Currently NYC sewers aren't occupied by lizardmen, though.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by KingD19
WEll, considering in the comics he can't summon lizards who spit acid, that plan is a no go. And I don't think there is an acid strong enough to eat through Thing's skin. And a considerably hard hit from someone in Lizards strength class is nothing to Ben. Video games don't work here.

awww man hehe well still he can call lizards and other reptiles in a 1 mile perameter and we are in the sewers here so there more chance that more lizrads will come to his aid and pile the thing and the lizard could flood the sewer and drown the thing since he is really heavy and would sinks straight down but then again the lizard is 550 pounds but the differnce is that he can actually swim well.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

I know he can telepathically control Lizard's, Ive always known that. But, like you said, there are no Lizardmen, and none of the ones he can summon, even infected Lizardmen, can spit acid, that's the point I was getting across.

And he can control lizards in a 2 mile radius. Plus, tiny lizards piling on Thing would do nothing but get themselves killed.

If Lizard flooded the sewers, Thing could just swim out, he can hold his breath for an incredibly long time(Probably longer than Lizard), and he can still swim despite his form. Plus he he sees a wall, he can bust it to help drain the water.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Telepathic control over reptiles is within Lizard's powerset.

Currently NYC sewers aren't occupied by lizardmen, though.


well we will be in one sewer where there are lizard men lol.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

So summoning Lizardmen who are weaker than him will help Lizard how? Besides being distractions, they will still get killed. And continuing to add help for Lizard, and trying to make it harder for Ben, shows how much out of his range he is don't you think?

BTW, Ben is what's known as a team wrecker, one of those people whose so strong, he tanks everyone whose not as strong as him, considering how weak the Lizard is in comparison, the only difference it his defeat will take longer.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by KingD19
I know he can telepathically control Lizard's, Ive always known that. But, like you said, there are no Lizardmen, and none of the ones he can summon, even infected Lizardmen, can spit acid, that's the point I was getting across.

And he can control lizards in a 2 mile radius. Plus, tiny lizards piling on Thing would do nothing but get themselves killed.

If Lizard flooded the sewers, Thing could just swim out, he can hold his breath for an incredibly long time(Probably longer than Lizard), and he can still swim despite his form. Plus he he sees a wall, he can bust it to help drain the water.


WOW you are formidible man well his tail is thick and he can whip it at a speed at 70 miles per hours and i dont think the thing has the reflexes to catch his tail going fast and even if the thing could catch his tail the lizard could go low and sweet his legs from under him then command the lizards to pile him will hes on the ground and the lizard men did spit acid as far as i know they did it in all the games and they can do it here. so they all would be combining there acid and concentrating it on the things skin and soon it would melt off and when the thing finnally kills them it will be lizard vs. the thing (with extremly damaged skin leaving him vunerable) then when there barely any left or it gets too damaged the lizard could pierce through his body.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by KingD19
So summoning Lizardmen who are weaker than him will help Lizard how? Besides being distractions, they will still get killed. And continuing to add help for Lizard, and trying to make it harder for Ben, shows how much out of his range he is don't you think?

BTW, Ben is what's known as a team wrecker, one of those people whose so strong, he tanks everyone whose not as strong as him, considering how weak the Lizard is in comparison, the only difference it his defeat will take longer.


it would help him becase of quantity man im not talking about a measly 3 if thats what your talking about im talking about a good 60-90 of them swarming and jumping on him while hes down.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Yes, they can spit Acid in the games, we all know this, but this is the Comic VS forum, not the Game VS forum. If you want them to spit acid, you'll have to take this to the Game forum, capiche?

And true, Lizard swinging his tail can break concrete, but I don't see it knocking Ben off his feet.

Even if he did fall, and then the Lizardmen dog piled him, he could easily throw them off. Plus, them swarming Ben, means that Lizard can't get at him without going through his own group.

And like I said, even if they did have Acid, it wouldn't be concentrated enough, or powerful enough to melt the Thing's skin.

d3str0ya10 Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If the Thing gets his hands on the Lizard, or lands a clean hit, he wins.

first of all not true lizard would regenerate from any thing he fell off a building and took man cuts and injuries to his neck and had his arm ripped off and he didnt die instead he yelled in agony and jumped down the sewer to regenerate and fight another say. and if you didnt know lizards have rubbery bones.