RKT vs Spectre (DoV)

Originally posted by Martian_mind
As i said,when the magicians got their shit together they were tooling Spectre.

And what magicians are we talking about that were tooling Spectre? When you say tooling, you mean pounding him in a slugfest? Ok. He was getting tooled. Thats clear.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Taking them all was beyond him,that's probably why he had to go for power sources first.

Taking them werent beyond him. Im assuming by "them" you mean Shadowpact. They were never even a priority of his. Just roadblocks set up by others. I dont recall him ever going for Enchantress, Devil, Rags, etc. The power sources he went for happened to be high members of OaC, and they all got beaten.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And what magicians are we talking about that were tooling Spectre? When you say tooling, you mean pounding him in a slugfest? Ok. He was getting tooled. Thats clear.

Taking them werent beyond him. Im assuming by "them" you mean Shadowpact. They were never even a priority of his. Just roadblocks set up by others. I dont recall him ever going for Enchantress, Devil, Rags, etc. The power sources he went for happened to be high members of OaC, and they all got beaten.

It was more then a slugfest.He was so drained he had to actually abandon his quest and recover,thus it was a conclusive loss on ALL levels,and he would have been stopped then and there by the little guys.

By littel guys i mean all non-LOrds of order/chaos/skyfathers,who were the one's powering Enchantress.That scene proved that all of them combined were conclusively>Spectre,and defeating a combined effort from them was beyond him.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
It was said that if she held his power,he would fade into nothing.....

and again,he put down standard CM,but lost to magician backed CM,and had to flee and recover.

Had Enchantress not lost it,they could have beaten him down,and found a way to contain him.

It was Enchantress that stated he would eventually fade into nothing as long as he didnt get his power back. We dont know if thats true at all. She made an assumption. Has Spectre not decided to slug it with Cap, he could have disposed of him and been on his way. We can speak hypothetically all day.

Originally posted by jrodslam
It was Enchantress that stated he would eventually fade into nothing as long as he didnt get his power back. We dont know if thats true at all. She made an assumption. Has Spectre not decided to slug it with Cap, he could have disposed of him and been on his way. We can speak hypothetically all day.

And yet,none of it would disprove the fact that rather then wipe them all out in one fell swoop,Spectre had to move slowly and fight the big guns individually,which strongly implies he was not that far above the big guns,and that this fight is not a curbstomp.

Which is all I've been trying to say.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
It was more then a slugfest.He was so drained he had to actually abandon his quest and recover,thus it was a conclusive loss on ALL levels,and he would have been stopped then and there by the little guys.

By littel guys i mean all non-LOrds of order/chaos/skyfathers,who were the one's powering Enchantress.That scene proved that all of them combined were conclusively>Spectre,and defeating a combined effort from them was beyond him.

What you arent understanding is that the battle only went for as long as Spectre allowed it. was he was being drained, but it would have never completely defeated him.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
And yet,none of it would disprove the fact that rather then wipe them all out in one fell swoop,Spectre had to move slowly and fight the big guns individually,which strongly implies he was not that far above the big guns,and that this fight is not a curbstomp.

Which is all I've been trying to say.

It was Eclipso who was guiding him and telling him where to go for the most part. Spectre was above all the big guns and that was clear. He may not have been able to kill PS, but then again he never tried to actually kill Fate and Madame X. Stranger, Fate, Nabu, Shazam and all the others had nothing for him. Ofcourse he had to fight them individually because they were at separate places.

Sorry for going sooo off topic, but Spectre still wins this fight.

Originally posted by jrodslam
What you arent understanding is that the battle only went for as long as Spectre allowed it. was he was being drained, but it would have never completely defeated him.

Spectre hauling ass because he was getting beating down is hardly him allowing the fight to end.

Plus ypu don't seem to understand that i don't care whether the Spectre can be destroyed or defeated,just that people seem to be under the misconception he would stomp RKT.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Spectre hauling ass because he was getting beating down is hardly him allowing the fight to end.

Plus ypu don't seem to understand that i don't care whether the Spectre can be destroyed or defeated,just that people seem to be under the misconception he would stomp RKT.

I didnt say he allowed the fight to end. I said he allowed it to be a slugfest and last as long as it did.

As far as Spectre not being able to stomp RKT, do you think hed survive the type of attacks Spectre did against Nabu and Shazam?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I didnt say he allowed the fight to end. I said he allowed it to be a slugfest and last as long as it did.

As far as Spectre not being able to stomp RKT, do you think hed survive the type of attacks Spectre did against Nabu and Shazam?

Is the fight with Shazam considered a stomp?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I didnt say he allowed the fight to end. I said he allowed it to be a slugfest and last as long as it did.

As far as Spectre not being able to stomp RKT, do you think hed survive the type of attacks Spectre did against Nabu and Shazam?

You mean the killshots or the rest of the battle?

I feel he would fair as well as either of them did.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
You mean the killshots or the rest of the battle?

I feel he would fair as well as either of them did.

We have to clear this up. I think hed fair just as well as everyone else in DoV did meaning regular fights. I wouldnt doubt that considering Marvel wasnt doing to bad before the amp.

I dont think, however, RKT would would fare better than anyone Spectre gave "killshots" to.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
You mean the killshots or the rest of the battle?

I feel he would fair as well as either of them did.

co-signed

Originally posted by jrodslam
We have to clear this up. I think hed fair just as well as everyone else in DoV did meaning regular fights. I wouldnt doubt that considering Marvel wasnt doing to bad before the amp.

I dont think, however, RKT would would fare better than anyone Spectre gave "killshots" to.

IMO his performance against Spectre would be the same as Shazams or Nabu's

Spectre would have to weaken him and they'd struggle a bit before Spectre finished him.

Is my opinion of the fight clear?

Originally posted by Warlord
Is the fight with Shazam considered a stomp?

Overall? Not at all. Spectre was taking it kinda easy on him a bit. He even gave him a chance to "give up" and "let the final darkness take you". When Spectre decided to really end it and kill the wizard? Yes, it was a stomp because he wasted no time when he actually wanted to end it with the "killshot" as martian mind put it.

All my opinion ofcourse.😄

Another example would be when fighting JSA i think it was. He actually tried to show Thunderbolt mercy because they were allies back in the day. They persisted and they got owned.

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
I think it would be best if you didn't post anymore

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
The Spectre in DOV was an enraged Spectre, he wasnt being bound by the Presence

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Because the Presence was limiting the Spectres power, no one was limiting Odins power

For the record, you have the 'limiting' thing entirely wrong, anyway. Which isn't surprising from someone who thinks Superman is millions of times stronger than Thor, really.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
IMO his performance against Spectre would be the same as Shazams or Nabu's

Spectre would have to weaken him and they'd struggle a bit before Spectre finished him.

Is my opinion of the fight clear?

Lol!

I've been reading through the last five pages of this thread, and there is so much bullshit it's hilarious. I don't even know if I should bother addressing some of their ridiculous claims or not.

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Actually the lords of order and chaos are beyond Odins and Thors level of power

Even outside ROE Shazam is the omnipotent keeper of magic, Odin and Thor are NOT OMNIPOTENT

Shazam>>>RKT and Odin like it or not

Lol, at Omnipotent Keeper of Magic.

What are Shazam's feats, tha place him above Rune King Thor or Odin?

Name me a few of his greatest feats.

That is a baseless statement.

By the way, Odin has been called Omnipotent countless times.

Originally posted by Xzpunisher
They have omnipotent Mastery over magic, Try reading some JSA before you call someone out again

Odin isnt omnipotent at all, if he was he would of been able to put down Thanos and he would of been able to beat Surtur without sacrificing himself

Also Odin is an Earth god, his authority doesnt extend beyond Earth,

Shazam and Nabu are universal beings, both are more powerful then Odin is

RKT loses this fight, badly

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What on panel showings are there to support you're statements?

Your post is just a mess.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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What on panel showings are there to support you're statements?

You're post is just a mess.

Your.