Sun dipped Superman vs Rune King Thor

Originally posted by Board Walker
Abhi you have shown the truth, Superman couldn't be touched by Death as in Superman can never die. Death used all of its power to accelerate the multiverse (notice death states all universes) in order to kill Superman and it couldn't do so.

It seems some posters refuse to acknowledge the truth which is stated clearly on panel, Superman cannot be touched by Death. Meaning RKT cannot kill Superman in any way, form or fashion.

If you really want to be technical about it, that version of Death has nothing to do with Marvel's version of Death. What happens in DC would not necessarily happen in Marvel. This is one of the reasons that no one should be overly hung up on that one scan as a means of proving anything. If Superman were all powerful, he wouldn't have needed any help against Synnar. He would have realized that he'd better stop holding back against a guy that was beating the mess out of him and several others. This is the reason that we go by averages, which does not stymie a character operating at full capacity. You can't use once in a life time arcs, and call them the norm. A Moderator should get involved in this because from what I recall -Pr- stated that we go by averages.

Originally posted by Stoic
If you really want to be technical about it, that version of Death has nothing to do with Marvel's version of Death. What happens in DC would not necessarily happen in Marvel. This is one of the reasons that no one should be overly hung up on that one scan as a means of proving anything. If Superman were all powerful, he wouldn't have needed any help against Synnar. He would have realized that he'd better stop holding back against a guy that was beating the mess out of him and several others. This is the reason that we go by averages, which does not stymie a character operating at full capacity. You can't use once in a life time arcs, and call them the norm. A Moderator should get involved in this because from what I recall -Pr- stated that we go by averages.

Except this isn't an average, because the thread starters first post states it is Superman from OWAW at the height of his power, and also sun dipped.

Superman cannot be killed, Death cannot touch him, he was abstract level.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Except this isn't an average, because the thread starters first post states it is Superman from OWAW at the height of his power, and also sun dipped.

Superman cannot be killed, Death cannot touch him, he was abstract level.

Even if Superman ripped the Probes apart, what makes those Probes above low Trans level? What because they defeated cannon fodder, and weak-sauce JL members that might not even be considered low herald level? This may come as a surprise to many, but Wonder Woman isn't a High Herald and neither is Aquaman. No name Daxamites, are just like no name Krytonian, and no name Green Lantern's. They are treated like fodder. Look at the no name gamma Mutates being used in Marvel's latest Secert Wars. What you saw during OWAW, and attempt to raise above their station was prop characters being ripped on by Low Trans level Probes. RK Thor is much more powerful than that.

Originally posted by Stoic
Even if Superman ripped the Probes apart, what makes those Probes above low Trans level? What because they defeated cannon fodder, and weak-sauce JL members that might not even be considered low herald level? This may come as a surprise to many, but Wonder Woman isn't a High Herald and neither is Aquaman. No name Daxamites, are just like no name Krytonian, and no name Green Lantern's. They are treated like fodder. Look at the no name gamma Mutates being used in Marvel's latest Secert Wars. What you saw during OWAW, and attempt to raise above their station was prop characters being ripped on by Low Trans level Probes. RK Thor is much more powerful than that.

KT had troubles with Thing and Hulk. Captain America almost killed him but hesitated...

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
KT had troubles with Thing and Hulk. Captain America almost killed him but hesitated...

That wasn't RK Thor. Batman kicked the wind out of the Spectre. Should I conclude that Batman is an Abstract level character? Should I attempt to low ball the Spectre? Again that wasn't RK Thor.

Originally posted by Stoic
That wasn't RK Thor. Batman kicked the wind out of the Spectre. Should I conclude that Batman is an Abstract level character? Should I attempt to low ball the Spectre? Again that wasn't RK Thor.

I showed you just how your lowball idiocy works. Still it was KT who was above Odin or at Odins level, humiliated by Captain America. Batman kicked spectre, spectre was fine and never in danger, King Thor was about to die when Steve hesitated, differen't level of ownage.

Spectre allowed it, btw.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I showed you just how your lowball idiocy works. Still it was KT who was above Odin or at Odins level, humiliated by Captain America. Batman kicked spectre, spectre was fine and never in danger, King Thor was about to die when Steve hesitated, differen't level of ownage.

I think you forgot about the gem that was put around his neck that cut off his power which is the reason Hulk and Thing did so well and the reason Cap did so well. When the was removed, he baked Cap like a Chico stick.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I showed you just how your lowball idiocy works. Still it was KT who was above Odin or at Odins level, humiliated by Captain America. Batman kicked spectre, spectre was fine and never in danger, King Thor was about to die when Steve hesitated, differen't level of ownage.

Prove that Captain America was going to kill King Thor. Captain America doesn't have the strength to kill a regular Thor with his shield, and yet he was going to kill King Thor who was several orders of magnitude more powerful in every way. My argument wasn't idiotic, what's idiotic is trying to pretend that fodder characters are as powerful as well known established ones. This is something that your House of Ho's can't seem to stop doing. Batman must be an Abstract level character because he winded the Spectre, so that must have made Bane a supreme universal being.

Originally posted by carver9
I think you forgot about the gem that was put around his neck that cut off his power which is the reason Hulk and Thing did so well and the reason Cap did so well. When the was removed, he baked Cap like a Chico stick.

Forgot about that part, good catch.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Spectre allowed it, btw.

Originally posted by Stoic
Prove that Captain America was going to kill King Thor. Captain America doesn't have the strength to kill a regular Thor with his shield, and yet he was going to kill King Thor who was several orders of magnitude more powerful in every way. My argument wasn't idiotic, what's idiotic is trying to pretend that fodder characters are as powerful as well known established ones. This is something that your House of Ho's can't seem to stop doing. Batman must be an Abstract level character because he winded the Spectre, so that must have made Bane a supreme universal being.

Spectre was never in danger contrary to KT:

This KT had enough power to meld adamantium and yet defeated and humiliated by a mere human liek CA. Good job, phucking impressive.

So yes, your whole stance is pure idiocy based on the lack of feats of the old gods and inferior feats of RKT. But go on and lowball, it's your only hope, why present feats anyway. And even if lowballed, KT has lower as we can see.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Spectre was never in danger contrary to KT:

So yes, your whole stance is pure idiocy based on the lack of feats of the old gods and inferior feats of RKT. But go on and lowball, it's your only hope, why present feats anyway. And even if lowballed, KT has lower as we can see.

Originally posted by carver9
I think you forgot about the gem that was put around his neck that cut off his power which is the reason Hulk and Thing did so well and the reason Cap did so well. When the was removed, he baked Cap like a Chico stick.

Originally posted by Stoic

This is the next page, which almost never shown:

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is the next page, which almost never shown:

And I would assume that your point would be that Batman and
Captain America are not Abstract beings even if they at times are
able to look good when going well above their stations? Thank you
I am so happy that we agree.

Gem being removed.

The purpose of the gem.

Please continue.

@carv lol the gem didn't work properly, that's why KT had more than enough power to defeat Hulk and Thing, Thor alone can't defeat Hulk most of the time. Yet this KT who killed both HULK and Thing was defeated and almost killed by CA and CA didn't end him because he was distracted.

Post all scans, else your lies become a habit.

Originally posted by Stoic
And I would assume that your point would be that Batman and
Captain America are not Abstract beings even if they at times are
able to look good when going well above their stations? Thank you
I am so happy that we agree.

My point is that using that showing as proof of anything is useless, as Spectre allowed it to let Batman - and by extension, his fans - feel better.

Nothing more.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
@carv lol the gem didn't work properly, that's why KT had more than enough power to defeat Hulk and Thing, Thor alone can't defeat Hulk most of the time. Yet this KT who killed both HULK and Thing was defeated and almost killed by CA and CA didn't end him because he was distracted.

Post all scans, else your lies become a habit.

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Prove that the gem didn't work.