Versus fights rules state that each character has basic knowledge of their opponent. So, Harry will know that Jones is immortal and commands the Dutchman, and possibly about the Kraken. Jones knows that Potter's a welp with a bunch of spells at his command. Harry would not know about Jones's heart, because that wasn't common knowledge. The only reason everyone else found out was because of Jack Sparrow, and still a majority of the world would have no recollection.
Any of the immobilizing curses would drop Jones for a moment, then he would just phase into the ship which disrupts line of sight and line of effect. Thus my scenario on Jones winning.
Originally posted by XanatosForeverReally now?
Versus fights rules state that each character has basic knowledge of their opponent.
Originally posted by Impediment
Welcome, everyone to the Movie Versus Forum! Here is the place where you may all pit your favorite movie characters together, beit singular fights or team based. I feel that this may become a thriving place, and I want everyone to have as much fun as possible while posting in here.However, let's be clear on the rules of the MVF so we do not have any mishaps and/or clutter:
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Remember to use the KMC Search Engine before making a new thread. If you are aprehensive about a topic that may or may not have already been made, please feel free to PM me and I will gladly let you know.2) Google and Wikipedia are your friends. Use them wisely to find all sorts of neat material for your threads.
3) ALL KMC rules and regulations still apply in the MVF. Violators will be dealt with in a proper manner by the moderator.
4) 1 vs 1 vs 1 matches will not be allowed, as it is just too confusing. Team matches are perfectly acceptable, but the maximum is 3 versus 3. Anything over 3 on 3 becomes too difficult and just ends up as a cluttered and/or dead thread. Army/Group matches are allowed, but, please, be elaborate in your presentation so as not to confuse us.
5)This is a Movie Versus Forum, not a Respect Forum. Respect threads will be closed.
6) If somebody makes a thread and only posts "I'm bored. Pick one", or "Who's gonna win?", the thread gets closed. Period. However, if you start the thread in a more proper manner, like this for example:
"Robocop vs. Terminator: One is a cyborg cop and the other a cybernetic organism designed for killing. Which of these two would win?
-Robocop's feats are (explain his feats) and Terminator's feats are (explain his feats).
-Here are some images of both characters in a fight. [insert pics here, but must be relevant to the topic.]
-So based on this info provided, who wins?"
This is an example of one of the right ways to start a Vs. thread.
7) Concerning the Star Wars franchise: There is already a Star Wars Versus forum here on KMC. Please use it accordingly, and post any Star Wars topics therein. All threads, otherwise, will be moved.
8) An important reminder: This is a movie character versus forum, not an actual forum to decide "which movie is better than the other". Remember that when you make new threads.
HAVE FUN!! This is a new forum, and let's make the most of it!
-Impediment [/B]
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Read Me Before Making A Vs. Thread!As I've said before, I want everyone here to have fun posting threads about their favorite movie characters in versus matches. However, we need to be very clear about one particular rule.
If someone makes a thread and merely posts:
"I'm bored. Pick one." or "Who would win?",
the thread. gets. closed. Period.
Be elaborate, guys! Present scenarios! Give them weapons, vehicles, and/or handicaps! Present material that will make for a flourishing thread!
If you want to know the correct way to make a Vs. Thread that will survive, then here it is:
Say, for example, you want to pit Victor Crowley from the movie Hatchet against Jason Voohees from the Friday the 13th series, you would do something like:
Victor Crowley vs. Jason Voorhees. Both are mindless killing machines with absolutely no remorse. One is a deformed swamp behemoth, while the other is an undead juggernaut.
Victor can [insert info here].
Jason can [insert info here].
Both of them can have weapons such as: [etc etc].
The setting is in [choose your setting].
So, who's gonna win?
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Now, I'm not asking you guys to do this for every single Vs. thread made here. All I did was give a reasonable example of how it ought to, in my opinion, be done.
Bottom line: Don't just merely post "Who would win" or some other monosyllabic opening phrase.
Any questions can be sent to me via PM, and I will happily answer anything you might have to ask me.
Thanx and enjoy posting.
-Imp
Where does it state that? It is up to the thread starter to determine if the combatants know each other or not, and how well they know each other.
So, Harry will know that Jones is immortal and commands the Dutchman, and possibly about the Kraken. Jones knows that Potter's a welp with a bunch of spells at his command. Harry would not know about Jones's heart, because that wasn't common knowledge. The only reason everyone else found out was because of Jack Sparrow, and still a majority of the world would have no recollection.And how is Harry supposed to defeat Jones without knowing about the heart? Isn't that like pitting a blind man against Rocky? If the thread starter comes in here and says "No, Harry knows nothing of Jones's heart", then the thread is totally one sided and a waste of time. And yes, it is implied in the opening post that this is a fight to the death. If it is a fight to the death, then Harry has to know about the heart, since that's the only way to kill Jones.
Any of the immobilizing curses would drop Jones for a moment, then he would just phase into the ship which disrupts line of sight and line of effect. Thus my scenario on Jones winning.With the cruciatus curse, Harry can keep Jones immobile for as long as he likes.
If it's not explicitly stated by the board moderator, then it's something of a unwritten rule throughout all the versus forums. Would you prefer we have Impediment state it explicitly?
The fact the original poster didn't specify the conditions leaves a lot up to random chance and, to some extent, the fervor of the fanboys/fangirls. Implications are what this entire thread is about, since there's been no specific scenario set down, so while it might be implied that it's a fight to the death, it could also be implied that Harry's an emo sorceror who would rather Cruciatus himself than Jones just for the high it gives him. 😉
The cruciatus curse is mind affecting spell that requires line of sight and effect to last. It's intense pain, but considering some of the hits Jones tanked, chances are he'd be able to keep his cool long enough to get away.
RJ, if your beef is 'this is a stupid thread unfair thread', you're right, as Potter is facing an immortal.
Still, Potter loses and has his "barnacles scraped" anally, unfairness aside.
BTW, the heart was buired, only reason it wasn't buried is because someone deduced where it was hidden and dug it up.
Originally posted by XanatosForever
If it's not explicitly stated by the board moderator, then it's something of a unwritten rule throughout all the versus forums. Would you prefer we have Impediment state it explicitly?The fact the original poster didn't specify the conditions leaves a lot up to random chance and, to some extent, the fervor of the fanboys/fangirls. Implications are what this entire thread is about, since there's been no specific scenario set down, so while it might be implied that it's a fight to the death, it could also be implied that Harry's an emo sorceror who would rather Cruciatus himself than Jones just for the high it gives him. 😉
The cruciatus curse is mind affecting spell that requires line of sight and effect to last. It's intense pain, but considering some of the hits Jones tanked, chances are he'd be able to keep his cool long enough to get away.
Fight to the death means that the combatant CAN be killed. Jones cannot be killed without his opponent knowing about the heart, simple. If Harry doesnt know about the heart, then, as I said, this is a totally one sided thread, you agree?
I have read the rules, and I am very aware that it's up to the thread starter to state the conditions of the fight, but what if...and just go with me here...just what if a thread starter doesn't give specific conditions? What are we meant to go on? Like I said, a thread with no specific scenario is nothung but implied opinion.
If this is indeed a fight to the death, which I'm not saying it isn't, then yes, the combatants can be killed. So, Harry knows that it's possible to kill Davy, but that doesn't mean he'd know how to kill him.
I'm not saying this to split hairs, either. Jones is so full of himself, chances are he would give something away to Harry. Once that happens, things can turn around quite quickly.
Originally posted by XanatosForeverAnd Harry is supposed to figure out how to kill Jones whilst engaged in combat? You do realize that going on saying that Harry doesnt know about the heart is a death sentence for him, right?
I have read the rules, and I am very aware that it's up to the thread starter to state the conditions of the fight, but what if...and just go with me here...just what if a thread starter doesn't give specific conditions? What are we meant to go on? Like I said, a thread with no specific scenario is nothung but implied opinion.If this is indeed a fight to the death, which I'm not saying it isn't, then yes, the combatants can be killed. So, Harry knows that it's possible to kill Davy, but that doesn't mean he'd know how to kill him.
I'm not saying this to split hairs, either. Jones is so full of himself, chances are he would give something away to Harry. Once that happens, things can turn around quite quickly.
Well, like you say, once he knows about the heart, it's a simple matter of summoning and stabby McStabbing it. You said he could ride the Firebolt into the sky out of reach? Once he gets the hint, he could just fly up and out of harm's way to contemplate. Jones has no way of reaching him, right?
See? I can play both sides. 😉
Dunno about the lake, but I doubt the lake has enough room for the Dutchman to manuveur enough, but OK, the lake at Hogwarts it is, if you agree. What about the heart? Harry has to know about the heart and where it is. Maybe we can pit a limit on how far away Harry can be to Accio something he has never seen? Maybe he has to keep Jones busy until he gets close enough to the heart to accio it?
Actually, you have point. Regardless of whether or not Harry summons the heart, he still would have to wait for it to travel from wherever it is, so Jones would still have a chance to stop him.
That's a good point about the lack of maneuverability, but then I don't really see Jones trying to attack Harry with the cannons or anything. That still limits the Kraken summon, though, so maybe a shoreline instead?