Onslaught Hulk vs. Superman

Originally posted by Raoul
who said anything about holding back?

With Quan's stipulations Supes isn't holding back and is definitely attempting to put Hulk down immediately. Yeah, he's less clear-headed, but he's more powerful, which he needs to be if he wants to brawl. So Quan's stips help Kal in this thread.

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Originally posted by Enyalus
Grr. Okay. Its in Supes' character to hold back. Especially if he doesn't know his opponent well, as that would be the case here. And if that were so, brawling against Onslaught Hulk = bad, bad news for Kal.

With Quan's stipulations Supes isn't holding back and is definitely attempting to put Hulk down immediately. Yeah, he's less clear-headed, but he's more powerful, which he needs to be if he wants to brawl. So Quan's stips help Kal in this thread.

😛

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he's still not at 100% effectiveness, though, which is my point.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Grr. Okay. Its in Supes' character to hold back. Especially if he doesn't know his opponent well, as that would be the case here. And if that were so, brawling against Onslaught Hulk = bad, bad news for Kal.

With Quan's stipulations Supes isn't holding back and is definitely attempting to put Hulk down immediately. Yeah, he's less clear-headed, but he's more powerful, which he needs to be if he wants to brawl. So Quan's stips help Kal in this thread.

😛

Since when does bloodlust=stupid?

I realize Quan is the OP, and he can set the rules. But this is patently rediculous. 😬 And you both mentioned the fact that Supes almost ALWAYS holds back. So what happens if he cuts loose?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WorldOfCardboardSpeech

YouTube video

Nuff said.

Originally posted by Raoul
😂

he's still not at 100% effectiveness, though, which is my point.

I thought your point was that Supes had a better chance of taking it clear headed than he did if he was bloodlusted. If it wasn't, you suck. uhuh

I loved that episode

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Nuff said.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nuff said.

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Hulk FTW.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I thought your point was that Supes had a better chance of taking it clear headed than he did if he was bloodlusted. If it wasn't, you suck. uhuh

in a brawl, clear headed bad.

in a normal battle, clear headed good.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I loved that episode

who doesn't?

Originally posted by Raoul
oh, i thought you meant in general. funny how you seem to change the subject when you get backed in to corner like that. 😛

its your thread, and your rules. i just think it's funny the way you have to take away something of superman to make things more fair...

I think it's funny how Superman supporters cry foul when their mindsets are similar.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When have I changed my opinion?

I think it's funny how Superman supporters cry foul when their mindsets are similar.

subject = opinion?

yes, because superman is so often likened to a big, green, rage filled monster.

Originally posted by Raoul
quanlover.

Originally posted by Enyalus
😛 Just sayin'. Looking at the CIP rule you posted, Supes would get lambasted by this Hulk in a normal mindset.

With what Quan did, he's out for blood, too. No holding back. Makes him more dangerous against another brawler IMO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nothing wrong with that. You're my little brother, act like it. 😛 I think with the mentality Superman had in that fight that he wins more fights. He would beat the hell outta Kalibak and Mantis and there would be no lucky punch.

eww.

@ both statements.

Supes similar to the hulk? Hulk should be so lucky. 🙄 Black Adam is closer to Hulk's mindset than Hulk, and even he uses better tactics.

Actually, there are plenty of Hulk analogues in marvel and dc. Hell, frigging Grundy predates the Hulk.

Originally posted by Raoul
😂

he's still not at 100% effectiveness, though, which is my point.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Since when does bloodlust=stupid?

I realize Quan is the OP, and he can set the rules. But this is patently rediculous. 😬 And you both mentioned the fact that Supes almost ALWAYS holds back. So what happens if he cuts loose?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WorldOfCardboardSpeech

YouTube video

Nuff said.

Originally posted by Raoul
subject = opinion?

yes, because superman is so often likened to a big, green, rage filled monster.

Now that you know what mindsets both guys are in have you decided who wins?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Neither is Hulk. He just wants to kick what's in front of him.

yeah, cos he's never been in that mindset before...

When did I change the subject? I respond very quickly and can't remember.

you do it all the time. when someone counters your argument, you don't even reply. you just give up and bring in some other point.

Now that you know what mindsets both guys are in have you decided who wins?

superman is at more of a disadvantage. if he just brawls, he loses. if he uses reflex speed and heat vision and such, he wins...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Supes similar to the hulk? Hulk should be so lucky. 🙄 Black Adam is closer to Hulk's mindset than Hulk, and even he uses better tactics.

Actually, there are plenty of Hulk analogues in marvel and dc. Hell, frigging Grundy predates the Hulk.

Originally posted by Raoul
yeah, cos he's never been in that mindset before...

you do it all the time. when someone counters your argument, you don't even reply. you just give up and bring in some other point.

superman is at more of a disadvantage. if he just brawls, he loses. if he uses reflex speed and heat vision and such, he wins...

What was countered? I always respond to every counter I see.

Iyo he is at more of a disadvantage. I didn't make this a slugfest or anything.

Originally posted by Spire
Point is Superman used and uses his speed.

BFR wouldn't work here so it was retarded that you mentioned it as they are fighting in a adamantium room per your stips. What a pine cone...

Thor didn't need any of that to deal with Hulk. So not only does your new wave of bullshit 'imo' and 'nah uh' fail it also really doesn't matter either way.

Missing the point, son. High Herald Cyclops cracked it with one blast. Hulk needed not one, but two amps.

Lol, did what needed to be done the whole time...

Yeah Hulk needed two amps to reach High Herald Cyclops levels. First amp he failed and got knocked on his ass and pinned down. Both Onslaught and Hulk gave speeches. This plot device led to a second amp that finally surpassed High Herald Cyclops levels.

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Hopefully this will be your last wave of crap.

Your arguments fail. They are full of irrelevant strawman 'imo' and 'nah uh' logic.

You jump from one thing to the next leaving it solely up to fate and pure chance that you might say something intelligent.

It's obvious that your new tactic is similiar to that of when an invading army attacks you, and you set your own fields on fire.

Just explaining that in a comic Hulk countered a bfr.

What didn't Thor need with the Hulk now?

Hulk was well past Cyclops level. He destroyed the shell and the blows were so powerful the heroes couldn't even get close to them outside some help.

Hulk's powers were dependent on banner's mind being shut down not some amp. You keep referring to his rage as an amp. Laughable.

No, they aren't. You are arguing based off powersets which is the cbr way of doing things. 🙂

You insults fall on deaf ears friend. You don't have the fortitude for the likes of me and my intelligence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he can do so here. He failed to throw WW in the sun and imo he would fail to do so here. Hulk already defied a bfr from Glads before they really even left the planet.

Just explaining that in a comic Hulk countered a bfr.

What didn't Thor need with the Hulk now?

Hulk was well past Cyclops level. He destroyed the shell and the blows were so powerful the heroes couldn't even get close to them outside some help.

Hulk's powers were dependent on banner's mind being shut down not some amp. You keep referring to his rage as an amp. Laughable.

No, they aren't. You are arguing based off powersets which is the cbr way of doing things. 🙂

You insults fall on deaf ears friend. You don't have the fortitude for the likes of me and my intelligence.

Lol, I checked this earlier and gave you the benefit of the doubt that you accepted your failure. Oh well...

Wow! 'imo' and 'nah uh' are back! There is no BFR in this fight. You only brought up BFR as means of side stepping and jumping around. Also the original point was that Superman will use speed. Reread the thread.

Anything that Superman would need.

Original point=Cyclops cracked his armor. Reread the thread.

Hulk got knocked on his ass then pinned. Ha. Then they both gave speeches. Then hulk broke his shell. Point is their will be no speeches here. I already made that clear, you just ignored it. Once again, reread the thread.

Wrong. Superman uses his speed. KMC rules. Get over it. I already explained how your thread failed. You weren't smart enough to understand something very simple. Reread the thread.

Lol, at insults. Also apparently the deaf ears part wasn't true at all. Lastly your intelligence, judging by my previous two sentences(in this response) could only be described with Ha & Lol.

Originally posted by Spire
😕

Hopefully this will be your last wave of crap.

Your arguments fail. They are full of irrelevant strawman 'imo' and 'nah uh' logic.

You jump from one thing to the next leaving it solely up to fate and pure chance that you might say something intelligent.

It's obvious that your new tactic is similiar to that of when an invading army attacks you, and you set your own fields on fire.