Onslaught Hulk vs. Superman

Quan: You cannot be serious. Superman is one of the best tacticians when it comes to personal use of his abilities. And why is Hulk not killing anyone some giant accomplishment? Aside from his crashing the giant rock ship, he wasn't going out of his way to hurt people, save for meta-humans who attacked him or he had a grudge with.

and what kind of bullshit is it to not let Superman act intelligently when his opponent is technically more retarded than usual? You're completely ignoring the characters and their respective personalities.

You just want a fantasy Superman who will actually lose to Hulk. Because you know he can't beat Superman in a real fight, or if Superman isn't playing Hulk's game.

And let's not get into Superman being bloodlusted or even angry. When Hulk gets mad, cities get wrecked. Hell, he can probably wreck most of the USA given time.

But when Superman gets angry...............continents fall. Moons shatter. Planets get cracked. Superman doesn't throw temper tantrums. He throws planets. There are levels of power. And the big Blue is usually in a class of his own. But even disregarding his rediculous feats, he's usually powerful to one-shot most of Hulk's opponents.

And frankly? Superman would be able to bust the Onslaught armor more easily than Hulk did. Unless you think Hulk can destroy planets with his fists? 🙄

Superman uses his "hotter than the center of the sun" heat vision and vaporizes Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, she has speed. How would bfr work here anyways? Glads tried the same thing to Hulk and it didn't work.

Point is Superman used and uses his speed.

BFR wouldn't work here so it was retarded that you mentioned it as they are fighting in a adamantium room per your stips. What a pine cone...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is a lot more powerful than Superman and his history proves it. He damaged a Celestial, ran off Galactus, oneshotted Durok, etc.

Thor didn't need any of that to deal with Hulk. So not only does your new wave of bullshit 'imo' and 'nah uh' fail it also really doesn't matter either way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cracking and destroying it completely are two entirely different things.

Missing the point, son. High Herald Cyclops cracked it with one blast. Hulk needed not one, but two amps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This Hulk needed his banner mind shut down and he did the rest. Hulk was angry the entire time and did what needed to be done.

Lol, did what needed to be done the whole time...

Yeah Hulk needed two amps to reach High Herald Cyclops levels. First amp he failed and got knocked on his ass and pinned down. Both Onslaught and Hulk gave speeches. This plot device led to a second amp that finally surpassed High Herald Cyclops levels.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not likely. 🙂

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Hopefully this will be your last wave of crap.

Your arguments fail. They are full of irrelevant strawman 'imo' and 'nah uh' logic.

You jump from one thing to the next leaving it solely up to fate and pure chance that you might say something intelligent.

It's obvious that your new tactic is similiar to that of when an invading army attacks you, and you set your own fields on fire.

Originally posted by Badabing
Superman uses his "hotter than the center of the sun" heat vision and vaporizes Hulk.

Still giving these to Superman. Cracking through Onslaught's armor isn't an automatic win. Thor did it as well. Thor also stalemated Mindless Hulk (The one from Onslaught) in hand to hand, and knocked him clean on his ass with one hit, when he actually tried to put him down.

Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I meant to destroy his shell. Cyclops wasn't powerful enough nor the other heroes gathered there to do so.

Most of the time Superman isn't either. To not take a single life during ww Hulk I'd say that qualifies as either the luckiest s.o.b. out there or a guy who knew exactly what he was doing while taking on all comers at the same time.

I think heatvisioning her and immediately trying to kill her by throwing her into the sun is a pretty good plan.

superman is constantly thinking tactically. even when he's slugging it out, it's because he knows that he can take the beating while he figures out a way to get the win.

to you maybe. not to me. and probably not to him either, as i doubt either of us is on his level when it comes to tactical thinking.

Originally posted by Badabing
Superman uses his "hotter than the center of the sun" heat vision and vaporizes Hulk.

😂

Originally posted by Spire
High Herald Cyclops

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Quan: You cannot be serious. Superman is one of the best tacticians when it comes to personal use of his abilities. And why is Hulk not killing anyone some giant accomplishment? Aside from his crashing the giant rock ship, he wasn't going out of his way to hurt people, save for meta-humans who attacked him or he had a grudge with.

and what kind of bullshit is it to not let Superman act intelligently when his opponent is technically more retarded than usual? You're completely ignoring the characters and their respective personalities.

You just want a fantasy Superman who will actually lose to Hulk. Because you know he can't beat Superman in a real fight, or if Superman isn't playing Hulk's game.

And let's not get into Superman being bloodlusted or even angry. When Hulk gets mad, cities get wrecked. Hell, he can probably wreck most of the USA given time.

But when Superman gets angry...............continents fall. Moons shatter. Planets get cracked. Superman doesn't throw temper tantrums. He throws planets. There are levels of power. And the big Blue is usually in a class of his own. But even disregarding his rediculous feats, he's usually powerful to one-shot most of Hulk's opponents.

And frankly? Superman would be able to bust the Onslaught armor more easily than Hulk did. Unless you think Hulk can destroy planets with his fists? 🙄

Everyone he wanted beat, he pretty much beat them into submission. That's impressive. He didn't have to kill them and with the level of opponents it's much harder to take someone alive as opposed to kill someone imo.

Hulk isn't thinking clearly so it wouldn't be fair to let Superman think clearly. Both are out to stomp the other one.

My thread and my rules.

Hulk has destroyed something twice the size of the planet while something the size of the moon ko'd Superman. Hulk has held together the plates of skaar before.

Hulk is much stronger imo.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Still giving these to Superman. Cracking through Onslaught's armor isn't an automatic win. Thor did it as well. Thor also stalemated Mindless Hulk (The one from Onslaught) in hand to hand, and knocked him clean on his ass with one hit, when he actually tried to put him down.

Originally posted by Raoul
superman is constantly thinking tactically. even when he's slugging it out, it's because he knows that he can take the beating while he figures out a way to get the win.

to you maybe. not to me. and probably not to him either, as i doubt either of us is on his level when it comes to tactical thinking.

😂

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I have explained my reasoning for giving them similar mindsets. This Hulk vs. Superman thread is different and I want them to physically have no fear and duke it out. Superman is free to use his abilities in the mindset he was in when he wanted to kill DD/WW.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is much stronger imo.

And when you take into account the kind of damage he was taking and healing from during WWH, and realize that Mindless Hulk heals faster...Supes' HV isn't putting him down, nor are his punches.

Originally posted by Enyalus
This version, I agree.

And when you take into account the kind of damage he was taking and healing from during WWH, and realize that Mindless Hulk heals faster...Supes' HV isn't putting him down, nor are his punches.

Superman speedblitz ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is also a lot more powerful than Superman and has a hammer. Without his hammer Hulk takes him. Not this Superman.

I have explained my reasoning for giving them similar mindsets. This Hulk vs. Superman thread is different and I want them to physically have no fear and duke it out. Superman is free to use his abilities in the mindset he was in when he wanted to kill DD/WW.

oh, i thought you meant in general. funny how you seem to change the subject when you get backed in to corner like that. 😛

its your thread, and your rules. i just think it's funny the way you have to take away something of superman to make things more fair...

Originally posted by Raoul
oh, i thought you meant in general. funny how you seem to change the subject when you get backed in to corner like that. 😛

its your thread, and your rules. i just think it's funny the way you have to take away something of superman to make things more fair...

I would think that Superman being in a bloodlusted mindset would help his chances of survival here, not hinder them...

Originally posted by Enyalus
I would think that Superman being in a bloodlusted mindset would help his chances of survival here, not hinder them...

quanlover.

Originally posted by Raoul
quanlover.

With what Quan did, he's out for blood, too. No holding back. Makes him more dangerous against another brawler IMO.

Originally posted by Enyalus
😛 Just sayin'. Looking at the CIP rule you posted, Supes would get lambasted by this Hulk in a normal mindset.

With what Quan did, he's out for blood, too. No holding back. Makes him more dangerous against another brawler IMO.

with the rules bada and i laid out, yes, superman would brawl initially. however, he would eventually resort to using other powers, thereby increasing his chances of success and survival... 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
with the rules bada and i laid out, yes, superman would brawl initially. however, he would eventually resort to using other powers, thereby increasing his chances of success and survival... 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
Brawling against this Hulk while holding back (as he does in character) equates to assisted suicide.

who said anything about holding back?