Mandrakk vs. Thanos w/ HOTU

Ok, except Hercules was born before the Trojan War.

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, except Hercules was born before the Trojan War.

Never mind Mickey Mouse or Buggs Bunny still beat the crap out of Mandrakk 😉

Hercules was a Hero, but not a Superman like Superman, Captain America..etc. However, Mindset got a point. Every character takes the qualities from the Greek heroes. Superman took a lot from them which later changed..etc. Then newer heroes take it from Superman.

I forgot, but there was another Superhero/ Comic Book Character just before Superman. I forget then name

EDIT: got it
http://kottke.org/05/10/the-first-superhero

which further proves my point

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
which further proves my point

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually, Superman wasn't the first. He was the first of the ones who inspired stories, more heroes...etc. You point still stand, tho\

BtW: Those jewish guys were dumb, they sold Superman from the newspaper for like a thousand dollars. They could have made billions.

read what i said again. 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
that's not very fair.

nobody equals the batman.

it happened. you not liking it doesn't change that.

mandrakk was feeding on existence itself.

not JUST his story, though.

superman's story was the prime example, it started all the others. the concept of superhero came from superman, and in turn empowered him by growing to what it is now with other heroes, and then feeding in to him. he became THE superhero, singular. he was what inspired and maintained all others.

even if spider-man or green lantern or the x-men have wonderful feats of heroism, those are at their very core inspired by superman.

his is the prime example, i think, and because of that, he's powered by all others.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mandrakk could and was stopped. Thanos easily absorbed all of existence like it was nothing. Everyone present who challenged Thanos was like nothing to him.

he was stopped by superheroism given form and function in superman and his cosmic armour.

also, marvel didn't have superman.

Originally posted by Raoul
he was stopped by superheroism given form and function in superman and his cosmic armour.

also, marvel didn't have superman.

Thanos was untouchable while neither superman nor Mandrakk was.

Thanos treated the Lt like a child. He was above reproach aka supreme. Neither superman nor Mandrakk was supreme.

facepalm

All romanticism aside, Thanos still wins this fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman affects the dcu not the marvel u. The dcu is greatly affected by both batman, superman, and ww alike. While marvel has it's fair share of iconic heroes they share the spotlight while the big three at dc hog it. I don't think superman would be the big deal in marvel that he is in the dcu.

Thanos was untouchable while neither superman nor Mandrakk was.

Thanos treated the Lt like a child. He was above reproach aka supreme. Neither superman nor Mandrakk was supreme.

if not for superman, all of DC would have been destroyed by Mandrakk. All of it.

Superman can't exist in Marvel, because Quesada wouldn't have a clue how to use him. Look at Sentry.

also, blackest night and flash rebirth prove what you said is incorrect.

Originally posted by Raoul
if not for superman, all of DC would have been destroyed by Mandrakk. All of it.

Superman can't exist in Marvel, because Quesada wouldn't have a clue how to use him. Look at Sentry.

also, blackest night and flash rebirth prove what you said is incorrect.

Sentry isn't a Superman clone Gladiator is. They even call him Kal for short nowadays.

I don't mean that superman,ww, and batman always save the day, but that dc in general really plays them up too often. I for one hope they all take a backseat to the lanterns again. That's what also made the sc a great story as none of them played a huge role in any of it.

Originally posted by Raoul
that's not very fair.

nobody equals the batman.

Originally posted by Raoul
mandrakk was feeding on existence itself.

Originally posted by Raoul
superman's story was the prime example, it started all the others. the concept of superhero came from superman, and in turn empowered him by growing to what it is now with other heroes, and then feeding in to him. he became THE superhero, singular. he was what inspired and maintained all others.

Not true. 😛 Aurakles is DC's embodiment of the original superhero. Allankles will back me up. 😄

And that's per Grant Morrison, too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Superman saved the day in that particular story. We have seen Superman have his ass handed to him in sc and be a complete nonfactor in that particular story. We have to take into account their powers/feats to determine this fight and take the stroy out of the vs threads.

Sentry isn't a Superman clone Gladiator is. They even call him Kal for short nowadays.

I don't mean that superman,ww, and batman always save the day, but that dc in general really plays them up too often. I for one hope they all take a backseat to the lanterns again. That's what also made the sc a great story as none of them played a huge role in any of it.

Mandrakk is fueld by stories, and the only thing that can stop him in DC is Superman with CA, and even then he needed MM ( for small amount of help).

If you put him in a Neutral universe, the rules still apply. He can't be beaten unless it's Superman, and CA.

This is why HE SHOULDN'T be in a VS thread. He is TOO powerful if he is used by the Forum Rules. Get it?

Let me guess!! Noo

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You're an ignorant person.

Mandrakk is fueld by stories, and the only thing that can stop him in DC is Superman with CA, and even then he needed MM ( for small amount of help).

Originally posted by xJLxKing
This is why HE SHOULDN'T be in a VS thread. He is TOO powerful if he is used by the Forum Rules. Get it?

Let me guess!! Noo

Not only that, but its Thanos who has the superior feats as well as implied power. Mandrakk goes down hard. Thanos absorbs him. The end.

I'm not going to go back and look at FC 7, but I thought he was beaten before Superman used the MM. The MM was only used to vanquish Darkseid and put everything back right.

Of course he doesn't get it, because what you're saying isn't true. Thanos was the Supreme Being of the Marvel Universe. Mandrakk isn't beating any supreme beings from any company, because he isn't one himself.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He needed a happy ending!

It had nothing to do with beating Mandrakk.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Mandrakk was threatening everything in DC.

He's got the higher feats and the higher power level. So he wins.

Anyone who says otherwise simply doesn't have a case and are either ignorant of what Thanos can do or heavily biased.

The DCU needed a happy ending, and Superman wished for it with the Miracle Machine. It had nothing to do with beating Mandrakk.

know. I read the issues in question. Good for him. Thanos didn't threaten everything in Marvel. Instead, he beat everything in Marvel. Then ate it.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You sure?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's the thing. Mandrakk would have done it, if he had time, but Mandrakk built the Armor which would beat, and that is the ONLY thing that he can't beat. Why? That armor was made to KILL him, made to grow stronger, and adapt to him.

I said I wasn't going back to reread the issue in question (FC 7), but that's what I recall. If someone wants to correct me, cool.

Mandrakk built the armor himself as Dax. If it could beat him, Thanos can. Dax was not omnipotent or omniscient.

He built an adapting piece of armor, which admittedly is kickass...but to say that's the only thing that can beat Mandrakk period, is stupid.

Might've been the only thing in DC that could beat him. Doesn't hold true for Marvel.