Mandrakk vs. Thanos w/ HOTU

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Originally posted by Enyalus
There was no idiocy from Thanos. Thanos was tricked by the writer's carefully laid out plot for him prior to ever becoming supreme. Which is why he acted irrationally and was so quick to anger, wiping out everything. The writer made him do it. But within the comics themselves, Thanos reigned supreme. And went out a hero who restored all existence. As TOAA knew only he could/would.

and some people think Mandrakk can beat that 😬

Originally posted by Galan007
What I said applies to any character. Understand that a Marvel character's story isn't necessarily better than Superman's, just because you think it is.

ermm

It's all subjective in the end anyways. I never said it was. I said that just because you think that Superman is the greatest story out there and so does dc that proves nothing in regards to marvel stories. Nothing.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Thanos' idiocy is just like Imperiex. Good Job eny at making me look like a 3rd grader
How was Thanos idiotic in that story? He was duped by the writer basically and fixed the flaw that was about to bring about the end of the marvel verse. He also restored his former armada and upgraded his personal powers imo.

Thanos demonstrated far more power in that story than any character in marvel or in dcu imo.

Originally posted by Enyalus
There was no idiocy from Thanos. Thanos was tricked by the writer's carefully laid out plot for him prior to ever becoming supreme. Which is why he acted irrationally and was so quick to anger, wiping out everything. The writer made him do it. But within the comics themselves, Thanos reigned supreme. And went out a hero who restored all existence. As TOAA knew only he could/would.

Can't argue with that!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Can't argue with that!

Well, thank you.

Eny you're a Thanos fan but you hate on Mongul?! 🧑‍⚕️

Originally posted by Allankles
Eny you're a Thanos fan but you hate on Mongul?! 🧑‍⚕️

Mongul is nothing like Thanos. At all. If Thanos acted like Mongul, I think Quan might slit his wrists.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Story is story.

The Bleed is symbolic. Mandrakk isn't limited to the DC-specific story.

It's like saying Thor can't control DC lightning.

I'm glad someone pointed out that the Bleed is symbolism for the life of the multiverse hyper story.

Originally posted by Allankles
Eny you're a Thanos fan but you hate on Mongul?! 🧑‍⚕️
How can you even compare Mongul to Thanos.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Mongul is nothing like Thanos. At all. If Thanos acted like Mongul, I think Quan might slit his wrists.

In terms of how they tend to solve there problems, they are similar. As far as Quan goes hell no. Quan likes tough guys and Mongul is plenty tough not to mention he has force blocks (at least Mongul Sr. did).

Originally posted by Allankles
In terms of how they tend to solve there problems, they are similar. As far as Quan goes hell no. Quan likes tough guys and Mongul is plenty tough not to mention he has force blocks (at least Mongul Sr. did).

Well, Mongul Sr. was the epitome of badass. Slapping around PC Supes.

Current Mongul suxx0rz. 😛

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yet he was defeated by Superman in CA and some Green Laterns.... yes ooo yes he's TOO powerful. If you want to ban characters that are too powerful you should start with Thanos w/THOTI which feats poops all over Mandrakk. So, please explain to me how Mandrakk's power is equal in a neutral universe as it is in the confines of a DC universe?People can claim the only way he was defeated was because of a better story this and that... yet he was defeated while Thanos never was or was even close to being defeated. Mandrakk too powerful... haha. So, what would stop Thanos from bringing back she-hulk for the battle and at which time she rips up anything to do with mandrakk and his eating of stories? Even less characters then Thanos could do so yet what would Mandrakk do about that since we're playing these eating/tearing up stories game? Mandrakk origins and power is very specific to DC and DC ALONE. Yet somehow in a neutral universe he has the same power... makes sense to me...

True, Mandrakk in a nuetrul universe would be = his Final Crisis self.

Agreed about The Bleed, I believe it was Zillo Valla that called it the ultimate power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can you even compare Mongul to Thanos.

Tough guys, force blocks, physical confrontation their preferred means of achieving goals. Thanos is more cultured, but give Mongul Jr. a few years and the rough edges will smooth over.

Thanos nihilistic tendencies have (funnily enough) seemed to take the edge of his menace (based on Annhilation), but usually he lets his proverbial "fists" do a lot of his talking.

Okay Allan...flipside. You like Mongul. Do you like Thanos, too, then? His more recent stuff, anyway. The 70's character just didn't do it for me.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, Mongul Sr. was the epitome of badass. Slapping around PC Supes.

Current Mongul suxx0rz. 😛


PC Mongul had a impenetrable bubble attack.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay Allan...flipside. You like Mongul. Do you like Thanos, too, then? His more recent stuff, anyway. The 70's character just didn't do it for me.

I haven't liked a Thanos story in a long while. I mean Infinty Abyss, Thanos Quest were not stories I'd recommend to anyone.

Strangely enough I liked Thanos when he showed up in that She-Hulk story some years ago (where he framed his brother), but it turns out that was a clone, go figure.

So you like Mongul and not Thanos, but you can't see how someone would like Thanos and not Mongul?

Originally posted by Allankles
I haven't liked a Thanos story in a long while. I mean Infinty Abyss, Thanos Quest were not stories I'd recommend to anyone.

Thanos Quest was the story preceding Infinity Gauntlet Saga. '90, I believe. That was good.

Infinity Abyss definitely wasn't. The End was okay. The beginning of Thanos' mini was bleh, but that got really good towards the end. And in Annihilation I liked him. Celestial Quest I thought he was good in, and IMO that wasn't a Thanosi...

Anywho, Thanos wins here. 😛 😉

Mindset, it has something to do with how the characters are treated. I don't want to write an essay about it (I'm tempted to) but basically, Mongul's straight forward brutality makes him dangerous and vulnerable i.e. his vulnerability makes him a good foil for heroes (in a way Thanos isn't).

With Thanos many of his writers don't really have a solid clue about where to go with his identity. His fascination with death weighs his stories down imo and writers often make his enemies and peers job i.e. it's either they are scrubs (the elders) or unaware of their own problems.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos Quest was the story preceding Infinity Gauntlet Saga. '90, I believe. That was good.

Infinity Abyss definitely wasn't. The End was okay. The beginning of Thanos' mini was bleh, but that got really good towards the end. And in Annihilation I liked him. Celestial Quest I thought he was good in, and IMO that wasn't a Thanosi...

Anywho, Thanos wins here. 😛 😉

You know it's because of writers like Starlin's wanking that other writers came up with genius ideas like: "Thanos gave up/lost his ultimate artifact plans (IG, Cosmic cube) because he felt unworthy to rule the universe." Dude, talk about killing all the fun.