Originally posted by psycho gundam
i still think it's fair to assume that current thor's durability would make it really difficult for either of them to cut him bad enough to win this.and thor's strength is too outlandish for anything but a trip to orbit if he connects with a punch/punt. when he "fought" the dark avengers, he was annoyed by them and his ground pound took them down.
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't have to downplay it, it downplays itself. It flat out by definition states Thor to be moving at a speed less than what Wolverine has been described.. You readily ignore multiple speed feats Wolverine has in which his speed was JUST as sustained. Fighting the Prime Sentinals, catching speed demon his multi after image sequence with X-23... And every one of those feats doesn't exactly have Wolverine straining himself.....
For you to come to the conclusion that Thor is > Wolverine in speed is MASSIVE conclusion-jumping indeed.
and so far, i have seen exactly ONE scan where logan sustains some form of "blurring" speed. and i have no idea of the context of that scan, or even if the person could actually see them.
say he had thor's strength. could logan have dug that trench like that?
And..... Warrior Madness? Really? I should think that were that a stip in this fight it would drastically change the outcome... 😐
2 things--first, why would WM change anything for you? he can still cut off limbs, do whatever you think logan and sabes could do to WM thor. secondly--where exactly did you get proof that WM=faster? he is stronger. but faster? never ever mentioned or displayed.
Wolverine undertakes the actions long enough to hold off Prime Sentinals for an entire team of X-Men to mobilize... it's not as impressive.
you keep mentioning that. is it in the respect thread or have you the scans?
Of being faster than the eye can follow? Didn't carver post 4 already?
no.
he showed wolvie hacking, and he showed the single scan you showed. for all the dissing of thor's speed, i've only seen a SINGLE scan that MIGHT match thor's feat. i've seen zero scans of sabes.
Thor uses magic and powers he doesn't have here to win or take an advantage in THOSE fights. When Gladiator turned his speed on Thor got the boots.
again, no he didn't. 😐 thor didn't even TRY and defend. he thought glads a friend.
When Thor obliterated Surfer it was with Warrior Madness.
doesn't increase his speed or magic. just strength. and he's fought and matched ss just fine in the past. again, PIS? you think he can catch warlock's staff but he can't grab logan's wrist and hurl him away?
MOST OF THE TIME, bricks fight Thor like bricks and he does the same in turn.. again.. quick? Sure. In WM definitely. To the degree you think on a regular basis? HELL.. NO...
what does regular basis have to do with anything? you know the rules in these matches as well as anyone. they use displayed powers to their utmost.
As soon as the hammer's given momentum or put in use magic comes into play it doesn't help your case. 😬
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no idea what magic is in use. the hammer is indestructible, like the claws. regardless, lifting and spining vs flicking your wrist.
Both have reacted to lasers but Thor's reactions are the only ones that matter based on a lack of effeciency? Yeah, that makes sense.
where did i say again that thor's are the only ones that matter? 😕
we KNOW logan has fast reaction times. you keep saying thor is slow, he's a brick, but he is repeatedly fast enough to parry laser fire. do you call that slow?
I dunno, the fact that Logan isn't going to be swinging for a crowbar? Oh and that his teammate isn't going to be throwing out attacks that can generally be ignored 😕
sweet. he's like flash. everytime he gets tagged, or his wrists are caught it's PIS? you seem to be calling for us to ignore any of thor's speed feats, correct? saying they are too few to be allowed to matter. do we then ignore all the times logan has been hit by people much slower than he is too? (not cool having words put in your mouth, eh?)
And? It's the most relivent piece in this debate... How Thor has dealt with similar characters matters here and his track reconrd doesn't lend one to think his speed, fighting skill, and tactical ability are going to leave him >>>>>> Over two fighters of this calibur...
huh? i'm not saying he's>>>>>>>>>>>whatever over either one. i'm saying he is more than fast enough to counter their attacks and since it's an easy BFR if he catches one of them he can win this. he doesn't need a ko.
I never stated nor implied that he can't touch either one of these guys... IMO it'd be a decent fight but he'd lose the majority.
i'd almost agree, but using his powers to their fullest (not sure if he is allowed to summon lightning) i'd give him a slight majority.
Who regularly display it, until they start fighting like a brick... and please two of those fight examples happened while the brawl was already underway.
i've no idea what you're talking about here. hyperion. glads. ss. all REGULARLY use lightspeed levels of superspeed in battles and thor never has a problem with them in combat. he doesn't even necessarily need speed. he could bring the stadium down on all of them and simply crawl out and clean up.
Oh god, here we go with travel = to combat speed.....
IT ISN'T....
ust because you can drive at 120 miles an hour doesn't mean you're going to be able to pluck 30mph arrows out of the air. [/quote]
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i'm sure there are people who could do that. regular humans can hit, catch and react to a 100mph fastball. so?
thor can move at >lightspeed. does that not imply that he can PERCEIVE things at that speed? process information at those speeds? we know he's fast enough to perceive and parry laser fire, not be overwhelmed by lightspeed-capable opponents.
all that is simply to say he should be able to easily react to their attack. you keep saying wolverine is faster. their reactions are at least equal and thor's best speed feat is at least a match for logan's and he has travelled at 3x lightspeed which means his greatest evidence of perceptual acuity is FAR greater than logan's or sabes.
The evidence we DO possess has Thor being put in defensive fights against everyone I previously listed, has Odin Powered Thor resorting to energy projection against Wolverine with no ungodly speed/reaction time to speak of, has Wolverine clearly able to harm him, and him impressed (an understatment) by the speed, skill, and tactical ability to a guy like Cap to a point that he lost a fight against him.....
i could show dd hitting surfer too. if you're being attacked by a mosquito, do YOU jump out of the way? hell, herc used a TABLE to block wolverine's attempted "blitz". you keep saying thor seldom uses his superspeed. where are all the blurring blitzes from logan and sabes?
So... I guess we DO disregard it if your going to ignore that for Thor's feats while under the influence of Warrior Madness.
not til you prove he's faster in that form. good luck.
This is basically a less powerful version of Herc. vs this team..... It's not nearly what you're making it out to be. (well classic anyways, again, dunno about current. )
it's an equal version of herc, with better durability feats, the ability to summon lightning and FAR better speed feats and displays.
Originally posted by BattlehammerHe's embarrassed Daredevil before. He's also embarrassed an amped Deadpool. But then again, that's kinda Deadpool's thing.
How is it questionable if wolverine has a skilled advantage? when was the last time Thor made a top tier MA look foolish?
Originally posted by srankmissingninIt's one of the reasons I've been working on a Revamped Thor Respect Thread. I'm not finished going through all his comics yet, but here is what I have so far. This is a collection of scans that highlight Thor's combat speed and combat reflexes. None of them have to do with spinning his hammer at incalculable speeds or traveling speed. Let's start off with commentary from various foes regarding Thor's combat speed:
With the alleged "abundance" of Thor combat speed feats that have been "referenced," so far in this thread, that would *apparently* be impossible for even a casual reader of Thor to miss... it certainly seems odd that no one has been able to mention one specifically, and not a single of these apparently numerous feats have made it into a single one of Thor's respect threads...odd
The original Black Knight shoots bolas from his lance that are literally surrounding Thor, but because of his speed, which Black Knight himself marvels at, Thor knocks the lance away and evades capture. Black Knight exclaims, "I've never seen such speed... such power!!"
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed03aAvengers006.jpg
Here, Hela only has to touch Thor in order to ensnare his soul in 1v1 combat, but is unable to do so because of his speed, "His speed, his anger, are beyond comprehension!"
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSpeed03354.jpg
Here, while fending off two herald level foes, Adam Warlock likens his ability to catch his staff mid-swing and his combat speed to that of lightning, "He moves like the lightning he commands, much quicker than I remember."
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed14InfinityWatch23.jpg
Similar incidents are littered throughout dozens upon dozens of fights that Thor has. But as we all know, character talk is cheap. So let's deal with some feats of combat speed and reflexes that are more than just subjective exclamations, no matter how reliable the source. What everyone really cares about are the more objective and demonstrable speed feats. One reliable type of speed feat is where the character moves so fast that you literally become a blur of motion or move too fast to be seen. Thor has several of those and here a few of them:
Here, Thor fights Heimdall and swings his hammer down on him at speeds "moving too swiftly for the eye to follow," even too fast for Heimdall:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed04JIM125.jpg
Likewise here, as has already been posted, Thor digs a trench in a blur of motion that is "almost too fast for the human eye to follow."
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3656/thorspeed014aw.jpg
And here, while helping rebuild Asgard, Thor hammers down repeatedly on a pillar and "becomes a blur of motion."
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed10267.jpg
Those were more akin to combat speed feats, but Thor's combat reflex speed feats are also impressive and likely more pertinent to this thread. After all, Thor isn't dealing with flowing lava or stationary pillars here. He's dealing with people trying to slash, hack and stab him with pointy things. Thor has a long history of dealing with that:
Here, Thor reacts to a knife being swung downward, only inches from his face with a mighty heave:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed08218.jpg
Here, Thor reacts and swats away arrows that are only a few feet away from hitting him from behind:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed16v27.jpg
Here, Thor is about to have his face smashed by a cursed Mjolnir which is zooming back to him, but he moves swiftly enough on reaction to dodge it:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed17.jpg
Here, Thor reacts to Wrecker swinging his mystic crowbar onto Thor's head from behind. Literally only inches away, Thor moves so swiftly once again, he snatches the crowbar with his hand:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed18v229.jpg
And it looks like current Thor hasn't lost that touch as he catches Bor's axe inches from his face with his bare hands:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed25600.jpg
Now if those altogether are not convincing enough to suggest that Thor has combat superspeed or reflexes, another common way to measure those is to see how well Thor does against speedsters:
Here, Thor builds a trench around crazed citizens and Avengers, including a zooming Quicksilver:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed07Avengers098.jpg
Here, Thor punks the Newman speedster, Juvan, who was created by the High Evolutionary, using nothing but his bare hands:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed11a447.jpg
Here, Thor catches another High Evolutionary creation who possesses superspeed, the godling, Zefra:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed15475.jpg
And Thor has punked the superspeedster, Hermes, the literal Greek God of Speed, not just once, but twice:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed11Avengers281.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed11Avengers281.jpg
But many times, superspeedsters can job. And who's to say just how fast each of those speedsters was going in each instance? While some folks freely use such feats in isolation as definitive evidence, I do not. Now despite my showing a compilation and not an isolated incident, I think the burden falls on me to show unequivocal true combat superspeed and superspeed reflexes. To be unequivocal, they need to be objective, demonstrable and most importantly, measurable. And Thor has these measurable superspeed feats:
Here, we see Thor flying outside a window and when Jane Foster gets his attention, Thor manages to intercept Cobra's poison dart within a split-second. The dart is fired before he even is inside the room, ust to give you the proper frame of reference to understand the speed and reflexes necessary:
Here, in the space of one and one-fifth seconds, Thor dives out of the sky, smashes Mjolnir down and causes a shockwave to divert a runaway truck from killing a young boy ACROSS the city:
Here, in the space of micro-seconds before a zooming cursed Mjolnir will strike Thor from behind, Thor lays a haymaker onto an Enchanter and spins around in time to snatch Mjolnir in mid-air:
Here, in one of Thor's most impressive superspeed reflex feats, Phoenix shoots a telepathic blast at Thor at the moment Thor's arms are at his side. AFTER the shot is fired and already travelling at him, Thor raises his arms and reflects it back with Mjolnir. Telepathy being instantaneous traditionally (as noted in the narration), we can assume for the sake of argument that it was only traveling at light-speed, making this a nanosecond feat:
None of the posted speed feats involve me trying to equivocate that spinning Mjolnir around = combat speed. None of the above feats involve Thor's traveling speeds. In fact, most of the feats do not involve Mjolnir at all. In addition to this, I could post dozens more scans of Thor fighting Surfer, Hyperion, Gladiator, but these are the most obvious. Thor has a long history of using his combat superspeed and reflexes. And while his superspeed reflexes are more demonstrated than his combat superspeed, he isn't fighting Superman or Flash in this thread. He's fighting Wolverine and Sabretooth.
Thor w/o Mjolnir or any weather control or energy projection isn't just a physical match for Hulk, strength, stamina and durability-wise (even more durable now), he possesses millenia worth of combat experience and very importantly, he possesses god-like speed. Nuff said.
Thor 10/10.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeWhat psycho gundam said. I'm working on a revamped one, but feel free to post the scans in the Thor respect thread we have now.
A post like that would be a strong addition to the Thor respect thread OneGo. As it stands now me and Bran have just packed it with random fights and power feats.
Also, I screwed up one of the links. This is the second time Thor punks Hermes, who is actually attacking classic Thor. I reposted the first one twice:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed16av27.jpg
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What psycho gundam said. I'm working on a revamped one, but feel free to post the scans in the Thor respect thread we have now.Also, I screwed up one of the links. This is the second time Thor punks Hermes, who is actually attacking classic Thor. I reposted the first one twice:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed16av27.jpg
Was looking over some old stuff
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Journey_in_to_mystery103-09.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Journey_in_to_mystery103-10.jpg
decent speed feat at the end there.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He's embarrassed Daredevil before. He's also embarrassed an amped Deadpool. But then again, that's kinda Deadpool's thing.It's one of the reasons I've been working on a Revamped Thor Respect Thread. I'm not finished going through all his comics yet, but here is what I have so far. This is a collection of scans that highlight Thor's combat speed and combat reflexes. None of them have to do with spinning his hammer at incalculable speeds or traveling speed. Let's start off with commentary from various foes regarding Thor's combat speed:The original Black Knight shoots bolas from his lance that are literally surrounding Thor, but because of his speed, which Black Knight himself marvels at, Thor knocks the lance away and evades capture. Black Knight exclaims, "I've never seen such speed... such power!!"
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed03aAvengers006.jpgHere, Hela only has to touch Thor in order to ensnare his soul in 1v1 combat, but is unable to do so because of his speed, "His speed, his anger, are beyond comprehension!"
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSpeed03354.jpgHere, while fending off two herald level foes, Adam Warlock likens his ability to catch his staff mid-swing and his combat speed to that of lightning, "He moves like the lightning he commands, much quicker than I remember."
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed14InfinityWatch23.jpgSimilar incidents are littered throughout dozens upon dozens of fights that Thor has. But as we all know, character talk is cheap. So let's deal with some feats of combat speed and reflexes that are more than just subjective exclamations, no matter how reliable the source. What everyone really cares about are the more objective and demonstrable speed feats. One reliable type of speed feat is where the character moves so fast that you literally become a blur of motion or move too fast to be seen. Thor has several of those and here a few of them:
Here, Thor fights Heimdall and swings his hammer down on him at speeds "moving too swiftly for the eye to follow," even too fast for Heimdall:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed04JIM125.jpgLikewise here, as has already been posted, Thor digs a trench in a blur of motion that is "almost too fast for the human eye to follow."
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3656/thorspeed014aw.jpgAnd here, while helping rebuild Asgard, Thor hammers down repeatedly on a pillar and "becomes a blur of motion."
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed10267.jpgThose were more akin to combat speed feats, but Thor's combat reflex speed feats are also impressive and likely more pertinent to this thread. After all, Thor isn't dealing with flowing lava or stationary pillars here. He's dealing with people trying to slash, hack and stab him with pointy things. Thor has a long history of dealing with that:
Here, Thor reacts to a knife being swung downward, only inches from his face with a mighty heave:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed08218.jpgHere, Thor reacts and swats away arrows that are only a few feet away from hitting him from behind:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed16v27.jpgHere, Thor is about to have his face smashed by a cursed Mjolnir which is zooming back to him, but he moves swiftly enough on reaction to dodge it:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed17.jpgHere, Thor reacts to Wrecker swinging his mystic crowbar onto Thor's head from behind. Literally only inches away, Thor moves so swiftly once again, he snatches the crowbar with his hand:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed18v229.jpgAnd it looks like current Thor hasn't lost that touch as he catches Bor's axe inches from his face with his bare hands:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed25600.jpgNow if those altogether are not convincing enough to suggest that Thor has combat superspeed or reflexes, another common way to measure those is to see how well Thor does against speedsters:
Here, Thor builds a trench around crazed citizens and Avengers, including a zooming Quicksilver:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed07Avengers098.jpgHere, Thor punks the Newman speedster, Juvan, who was created by the High Evolutionary, using nothing but his bare hands:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed11a447.jpgHere, Thor catches another High Evolutionary creation who possesses superspeed, the godling, Zefra:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed15475.jpgAnd Thor has punked the superspeedster, Hermes, the literal Greek God of Speed, not just once, but twice:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed11Avengers281.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/ThorSuperspeed11Avengers281.jpgBut many times, superspeedsters can job. And who's to say just how fast each of those speedsters was going in each instance? While some folks freely use such feats in isolation as definitive evidence, I do not. Now despite my showing a compilation and not an isolated incident, I think the burden falls on me to show unequivocal true combat superspeed and superspeed reflexes. To be unequivocal, they need to be objective, demonstrable and most importantly, measurable. And Thor has these measurable superspeed feats:
Here, we see Thor flying outside a window and when Jane Foster gets his attention, Thor manages to intercept Cobra's poison dart within a split-second. The dart is fired before he even is inside the room, ust to give you the proper frame of reference to understand the speed and reflexes necessary:
Here, in the space of one and one-fifth seconds, Thor dives out of the sky, smashes Mjolnir down and causes a shockwave to divert a runaway truck from killing a young boy ACROSS the city:
Here, in the space of micro-seconds before a zooming cursed Mjolnir will strike Thor from behind, Thor lays a haymaker onto an Enchanter and spins around in time to snatch Mjolnir in mid-air:
Here, in one of Thor's most impressive superspeed reflex feats, Phoenix shoots a telepathic blast at Thor at the moment Thor's arms are at his side. AFTER the shot is fired and already travelling at him, Thor raises his arms and reflects it back with Mjolnir. Telepathy being instantaneous traditionally (as noted in the narration), we can assume for the sake of argument that it was only traveling at light-speed, making this a nanosecond feat:
None of the posted speed feats involve me trying to equivocate that spinning Mjolnir around = combat speed. None of the above feats involve Thor's traveling speeds. In fact, most of the feats do not involve Mjolnir at all. In addition to this, I could post dozens more scans of Thor fighting Surfer, Hyperion, Gladiator, but these are the most obvious. Thor has a long history of using his combat superspeed and reflexes. And while his superspeed reflexes are more demonstrated than his combat superspeed, he isn't fighting Superman or Flash in this thread. He's fighting Wolverine and Sabretooth.
Thor w/o Mjolnir or any weather control or energy projection isn't just a physical match for Hulk, strength, stamina and durability-wise (even more durable now), he possesses millenia worth of combat experience and very importantly, he possesses god-like speed. Nuff said.
Thor 10/10.
lol what a sad list dude... it didn't even contain all the examples I was expecting, I mean Thor catching artillery shells in JiM 93 is better than most of your examples. Out of curiosity... which of those scans do you think show Thor is faster than Wolverine?
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
lol what a sad list dude... it didn't even contain all the examples I was expecting, I mean Thor catching artillery shells in JiM 93 is better than most of your examples. Out of curiosity... which of those scans do you think show Thor is faster than Wolverine?😆
^ facepalm Yes. I refuted the split-second, micro-second and nanosecond speed feats he has...
No wait, I didn't. I posted those objective, demonstrative and measurable speed feats to lend credence to the objective and demonstrative speed feats he has that aren't measurable... which lends credence to the objective speed feats he has, which further lends credence to even the subjective speed feats he has.
Here's a hint. It's called progression in argumentative proof. Because I have plenty of subjective speed feats. Plenty of objective speed feats. Plenty of objective and demonstrable speed feats. But it's only with objective, demonstrable and measurable speed feats do these cumulative feats do anything to prove superspeed. It's obvious Thor possesses superhuman speed. But superspeed? That's something else. And I don't rely on isolated and ambiguous instances to prove it. Those are my exacting standards of proof. You apparently missed the point of that progression because you either made up your mind beforehand or (i) don't have the simple motor skills to click on a scan to read it; or (ii) don't know how to read and got someone to type your inane posts for you.
Here's an exercise for you: 1) Show me a set of scans whereupon Wolvie and Sabretooth are being exhorted for their speed subjectively by characters. 2) Then show me a set of scans whereupon Wolvie and Sabretooth move in blurs or faster than the eye can follow. 3) Then show me a set of scans where Wolvie and Sabretooth utilize split-second reflexes to combat situations. 4) Then show me me sets of scans where Wolvie and Sabretooth punk multiple speedsters and superspeedsters. 5) Then show me scans where Wolvie and Sabretooth demonstrate measurable microsecond and nanosecond combat superspeed and reflexes (not just aim dodging/deflecting).
Pfft. Who am I kidding? Surely with your specious bravado, both Wolvie and Sabretooth have such feats in spades at all levels. So let's see them.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ facepalm Yes. I refuted the split-second, micro-second and nanosecond speed feats he has...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No wait, I didn't. I posted those objective, demonstrative and measurable speed feats to lend credence to the objective and demonstrative speed feats he has that aren't measurable... which lends credence to the objective speed feats he has, which further lends credence to even the subjective speed feats he has.Here's a hint. It's called progression in argumentative proof. Because I have plenty of subjective speed feats. Plenty of objective speed feats. Plenty of objective and demonstrable speed feats. But it's only with objective, demonstrable and measurable speed feats do these cumulative feats do anything to prove superspeed. It's obvious Thor possesses superhuman speed. But superspeed? That's something else. And I don't rely on isolated and ambiguous instances to prove it. Those are my exacting standards of proof. You apparently missed the point of that progression because you either made up your mind beforehand or (i) don't have the simple motor skills to click on a scan to read it; or (ii) don't know how to read and got someone to type your inane posts for you.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Here's an exercise for you: 1) Show me a set of scans whereupon Wolvie and Sabretooth are being exhorted for their speed subjectively by characters. 2) Then show me a set of scans whereupon Wolvie and Sabretooth move in blurs or faster than the eye can follow. 3) Then show me a set of scans where Wolvie and Sabretooth utilize split-second reflexes to combat situations. 4) Then show me me sets of scans where Wolvie and Sabretooth punk multiple speedsters and superspeedsters. 5) Then show me scans where Wolvie and Sabretooth demonstrate measurable microsecond and nanosecond combat superspeed and reflexes (not just aim dodging/deflecting).Pfft. Who am I kidding? Surely with your specious bravado, both Wolvie and Sabretooth have such feats in spades at all levels. So let's see them.
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I mean, really. Thor has a shitty track record regarding his speed. Spider-Man’s danced around him. So has Daredevil. Hercules has kept up with his speed just fine when fighting him. So has Hulk. So has Namor. And Thing. And a ****ton of others who really aren’t that fast. And Wolverine has generally shown to be able to keep up with Spidey far easier than Thor and has danced around Hulk far more easily than Thor ever has.
Now, I’m SURE you’ll just write every single one of those instances off that Thor was either holding back, or wasn’t in the mood, or had irritable bowel syndrome or some other such BS, but the cold hard fact is the speed Thor portrays when he brawls with Hulk and others is MUCH more consistent with the speed he shows in that micro-second feat you’re so proud of. And what’s even funnier is that you cite Thor keeping up with Gladiator when Glads has outright BLITZED Thor, simply kicking the hammer out of Thor’s hand.
For the most part, the feats you listed either weren’t THAT impressive or they were done with the hammer. Some were even blown out of proportion. I mean, seriously, a nano-second feat? Really? Are you really so desperate for Thor speed feats that “instantaneously” automatically translates to “faster than light” to you?
^ A long-winded way to say: "I will dodge this inquiry despite being given a clear opportunity to prove my point with proof."
Way to state your opinion, exude an excessive amount of false confidence in a weak attempt to substantiate your opinions (subjectively, if not objectively) and then back off when you could simply post proof. Good job, nublet. If you didn't notice, Srankmissingnin and I engaged in an inquiry of evidence, not bs. You can kindly show yourself the door and spread your's in a thread that doesn't require on-panel proof, which you clearly are unable to match in this one. Nuff said.
Thor 10/10.
