Darkseid vs. Thor (Stipulations)

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OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's a BS feat and you know it. 👇 Balder has crap speed feats compared to the guys DS faces. Oh look, lightspeed pies. 😂

Thor's speed is a joke here, and there is no feat that he has that compares to DS fighting Superman and his match with Orion.

Actually, since you can't measure how fast Darkseid was fighting in his bouts with Superman and Orion and since Thor has fought and beat more superspeedsters than Darkseid; e.g. Gladiator, Hyperion, Surfer, Hermes, etc...

... then based on pure objective, demonstrative and measurable combat speed and reflex feats... Thor actually is superior to Darkseid. Quite definitely.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Actually, since you can't measure how fast Darkseid was fighting in his bouts with Superman and Orion and since Thor has fought and beat more superspeedsters than Darkseid; e.g. Gladiator, Hyperion, Surfer, Hermes, etc...

... then based on pure objective, demonstrative and measurable combat speed and reflex feats... Thor actually is superior to Darkseid. Quite definitely.

Excuse me? How many of them have used actual speed on Thor?

Your marvel bias aggravates me. With the exception of Surfer, none of those guys have demonstrated combat speed on Superman's level. And even Surfer is inferior in combat speed.

Anyone who can fight an angry Superman in H2H is easily faster than Thor. Based on the fact that Orion always stalemates Supes in H2H, and that he and Darkseid have fought each evenly in H2H, with DS ultimately coming out on top most of the time,

then objective opinion dictates that Darkseid speedblitzes Thor, takes the stupid gem, and then sends him into his own personal hell with the Omega Sanction.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

lmao

God, I wanna say something, but also wanna see OneDumb's reply...

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

i love how everyone that fights superman gets a speed amp by default.

conduit must be a bit slower than flash.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Enyalus: Don't be lazy. uhuh

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Excuse me? How many of them have used actual speed on Thor?
You're excused. All of them have used actual speed on Thor. At least, based on your own standards. Because despite the fact you can never prove and measure just how fast Superman or Orion are going in their respective fights with Darkseid, you gleefully assume they must have been operating at superspeeds. Since you consider yourself to be so much more unprejudiced and unbiased than me, I have no choice but to adopt your "superior" logic and assume that every fight these proven superspeedtser opponents have against Thor, they must also have operated at superspeeds against him. And since classic Thor ultimately wins all those fights, classic Thor must possess even greater superspeed. Tricksterpriest's logic ftw.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Your marvel bias aggravates me. With the exception of Surfer, none of those guys have demonstrated combat speed on Superman's level. And even Surfer is inferior in combat speed.
Your Marvel antibias humors me. Actually, Gladiator and Hyperion have superior measurable combat speed feats than Superman, Wonder Woman, Thor, etc. Nanosecond feats of not just reflex superspeed, but combat superspeed. Truth. Whereas neither Superman nor Orion nor Darkseid for that matter have exhibited nanosecond combat superspeed.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Anyone who can fight an angry Superman in H2H is easily faster than Thor. Based on the fact that Orion always stalemates Supes in H2H, and that he and Darkseid have fought each evenly in H2H, with DS ultimately coming out on top most of the time,
Not really. Especially when you turn your argumentation in on yourself. You've never actually measured just how fast an angry Superman was utilizing his superspeed against Darkseid. For some reason, you assume Superman was operating at superspeeds... while conversely assuming that Thor's opponents never operated at superspeeds. As it stands, your blatant use of double-standards exposes your predilections in this fight. And even when I set that aside and focus on the flimsy substance of your arguments, I have no choice but to rebut your false statements. Because contrary to your statements, DS has actually had his butt righteously raped by Superman in at least half of their actual fist-fights.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
then objective opinion dictates that Darkseid speedblitzes Thor, takes the stupid gem, and then sends him into his own personal hell with the Omega Sanction.
Yes, because we've seen Darkseid speedblitz so many opponents. 🙄 And we've seen lots of people take Infinity Gems off people bonded with them. 🙄 And we've seen pre-FC Darkseid send lots of foes who possess power on the level of Blood and Thunder Thor into their own personal hell with the Omega Sanction. 🙄

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Enyalus: Don't be lazy. uhuh

But...it's what I do. 🙁

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
DS has actually had his butt righteously raped by Superman

Thanks for the visual. I'm gonna go throw up now. 😘

cloud102 Senior Member

Thor is not faster than DS. When Superman first traveled to Apok, he commented on how much faster Darkseid's lowlies were. These are just his henchmen, BTW.

Mindset Senior Member

What does that have to do with DS?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by cloud102
Thor is not faster than DS. When Superman first traveled to Apok, he commented on how much faster Darkseid's lowlies were. These are just his henchmen, BTW.
Byrne Superman? Who got knocked out by a gas station explosion even well after Byrne was done retconning him? Ah, yes. The ole tried and true tactic of projecting the best character feats onto an older, weaker incarnation of that character, and then reverse-enhancing a foil character's stats by proxy.

An oldie but goodie tactic I've become well aware of here on KMC. 😐

cloud102 Senior Member

Do you really have to ask that?

cloud102 Senior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Byrne Superman? Who got knocked out by a gas station explosion even well after Byrne was done retconning him? Ah, yes. The ole tried and true tactic of projecting the best character feats onto an older, weaker incarnation of that character, and then reverse-enhancing a foil character's stats by proxy.

An oldie but goodie tactic I've become well aware of here on KMC. 😐

Yes, we all know DS stock has fallen, but as we come to know, GDS DS was supposedly weaker than DS of today, who can take LOSH brick's attacks with little problem.

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Doesn't matter what he 'supposedly' was. He has higher feats. And other skyfathers' powers.

cloud102 Senior Member

Darkseid has been killing gods before GDS. Stealing an untold amount of power.

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No shit.

cloud102 Senior Member

Off panel, but it's not out of the realm for DS to take others powers. He casually wiped Aggog off the planet with his beams. A being able to handle Orion and Lightray at the same time.

Like I said, DS has some horrible showings, no doubt, but a lot of those are shit.

FC DS has the highest feat even from GDS version. Able to collapse the multiverse, right? Or in Seven Soldiers able to create realities/universes.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ And being slower on the draw than Batman with a gun. 😐

Anyway, this is pre-FC Darkseid.

cloud102 Senior Member

So...Avatar Darkseid? Doesn't Darky have a lot of those?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ And being slower on the draw than Batman with a gun. 😐

Anyway, this is pre-FC Darkseid.

BULLSHIT. That was the FTL bullet that killed Orion fired from a New God gun. 👇 He let Batman fire the bullet.

" Doesn't matter what he 'supposedly' was. He has higher feats. And other skyfathers' powers."

And Darkseid showed he was more powerful when he killed him in Foundations.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by cloud102
Do you really have to ask that?
Apparently.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
" Doesn't matter what he 'supposedly' was. He has higher feats. And other skyfathers' powers."

And Darkseid showed he was more powerful when he [b]killed him in Foundations. [/B]


Darkseid killed GDS Darkseid in Foundations? Really really?