Hercules vs. Wolverine/Deadpool

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You know even if he didnt have the hammer he would have still snagged him. Dont think hermes was trying to run past him.

Thor for al intents and purposes closelined him. there's nothing impressive about that. like you said dodging hermes initially was what was impressive.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Um didnt he chuck the brick wall first....he wasnt in a race with it, it had already reached its destination.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Of course there is you're just pretending he was slow. Gladiator was trying to kicks thor's arse = I better haul arse and go very fast or Thors going to give me a beating.

No, I'm no pretending Gladiator was slow, in fact I said it WAS a decent indication of speed and Gladiator's artistic representation was the reason why... It's still no indication of any quantifiable speed that can be determined and so it's subject to the same criticisms that have been put on some of Wolverine's feats.. criticisms that apply to everyone who has impressive speed feats.

Originally posted by jinzin
I was posing a hypothetical situation. 😐

Yeah sure.

Originally posted by jinzin

Thor for al intents and purposes closelined him. there's nothing impressive about that. like you said dodging hermes initially was what was impressive.

Of course not, I mean the guys only the god of speed and 10 times faster than Speed Demon, wasn't impressive at all.

Originally posted by jinzin

He was airborne as Thor was swinging at the wall and didn't reach Thor till the wall was gone.

Ok lets remember what you said first. You said he wasnt faster than a brick wall in front of him, before going on lets address that. He cant beat something that had already reached its destination.

As for this point Thor hadnt got rid of all the bricks. Even if he did thats you lowballing. Its not that Glads was slow Thor was fast.

Originally posted by jinzin

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No, I'm no pretending Gladiator was slow, in fact I said it WAS a decent indication of speed and Gladiator's artistic representation was the reason why... It's still no indication of any quantifiable speed that can be determined and so it's subject to the same criticisms that have been put on some of Wolverine's feats.. criticisms that apply to everyone who has impressive speed feats.

You dont need to know the exact speed. What we do know is that within Glads capabilities it was probably one of his highier speeds due to the circumstances (fighting a powerful opponent) and since Glads is faster than Wolverine and Speed Demon, its more impressive than alot of Wolverines speed feats.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah sure.

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Of course not, I mean the guys only the god of speed and 10 times faster than Speed Demon, wasn't impressive at all.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok lets remember what you said first. You said he wasnt faster than a brick wall in front of him, before going on lets address that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He cant beat something that had already reached its destination.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
As for this point Thor hadnt got rid of all the bricks. Even if he did thats you lowballing. Its not that Glads was slow Thor was fast.

Do you like having words put into your mouth?

I didn't say Gladiator was slow... I said he wasn't faster than the brick wall coming at Thor, so he wasn't going his fastest, which he wasn't. And so it's giving Thor the benefit of the doubt to say it's a feat above anything Wolverine can produce because all we saw Thor do was hit a brick wall twice before Glads NOT moving as fast as he could popped the hammer out of Thor's hand and booted it half way across town.

It's not a clearly defined feat. You MUST know that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You dont need to know the exact speed.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What we do know is that within Glads capabilities it was probably one of his highier speeds due to the circumstances (fighting a powerful opponent)

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and since Glads is faster than Wolverine and Speed Demon,

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
its more impressive than alot of Wolverines speed feats.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's more impressive than some of them and outstripped by others.

... None of which has a speed tab that can be actually proved by other means than speculation... Right?

Exactly.... That's basically the pillar of my argument actually.. They both have some speed feats to their name; if we hold them to such strict standards of proving specifics then we should apply them to both sides.

The easiest way to see how their speed is in fights is to look... drum roll please.... AT their fights. 😬

And given their performance there, Thor and Wolverine operate at the same basic level of h2h street level speed but Wolverine may be consistently more impressive, if there is a difference between the two in either direction it's slight so I don't see why people make such a fuss about it.

Still Herc.

Still the duo.

Originally posted by Spire
Still Herc.

Wolverine 7/10

Herc ftw

Originally posted by iceman24567
Herc ftw

And what make you say this

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc rips Wolverine's skeleton out of his body.

Originally posted by carver9
And what make you say this

You previously said that since you found out it was Immortal Herc, you weren't even going there. Not only that, but he's got his mace for this match.

Herc wins.

Originally posted by Enyalus
What makes you say Wolverine solos him 70% of the time?

You previously said that since you found out it was Immortal Herc, you weren't even going there. Not only that, but he's got his mace for this match.

Herc wins.

Originally posted by iceman24567

So you're basing your decision off of herc being stronger? You do know that i have a thousand ways of countering this right?

Originally posted by carver9
So you're basing your decision off of herc being stronger? You do know that i have a thousand ways of countering this right?

Originally posted by Enyalus
What makes you say Wolverine solos him 70% of the time?

You previously said that since you found out it was Immortal Herc, you weren't even going there. Not only that, but he's got his mace for this match.

Herc wins.

But I thought about the fights that herc had previously with wolverine and herc feared him tremendously. I also think that herc could get koed by getting stabbed continuously; not even mentioning wolverine being much faster than herc and would land more blows throughout the fight.

Then I'm also disputing it because of your statement about hercs mace. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by iceman24567
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Originally posted by carver9
But I thought about the fights that herc had previously with wolverine and herc feared him tremendously. I also think that herc could get koed by getting stabbed continuously; not even mentioning wolverine being much faster than herc and would land more blows throughout the fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Then I'm also disputing it because of your statement about hercs mace. 😮‍💨

adamantine is as hard or harder than uru.