Starkiller runs a gauntlet

For the record, Marek is more powerful then Vader, both in game and out. In the novel, they fight evenly at first becuase Galen's still not 100% and isn't focused, but then he gets clarity and pimps him, disarming him with the force, lifting him into the air and throwing missiles at him, culminating in a freakin' energy shield generator.

However, numerous sources state that he was no match for Sidious at all. Even his final kamikaze attack, right next to the Emperor, which shreds stormtroopers does nothing more then singe his cloak.

Haden Blackman claim Galen Marek to be a top tier user of the Force. He also described him as a character with unlimited potentials and that could very well have become the greatest Force user of all time. Yoda, wise and powerful as he is, does not come near that.
Not only does Haden Blackman imply Galen Marek above Darth Vader, but any accomplishments by Galen Marek support these words. He's been compared to Luke Skywalker in terms of power. He has for a fact defeated both Darth Vader and Shaak Ti.

Because Yoda is as old as he is, as wise as he is and the person that he is, he's often believed to be so much more than he has actually proved himself to be. He's a powerful Jedi master, but many has done far more impressive things with the Force than he has.

darth vader will never be 100% after obi wan sliced him up.

Really?

after anakin lost his limbs he became more machine losing alot of his connection to the force plus he cant even use the force lightning because it could electrocute him.

That was almost right. Thumbs up for you 😄

Darth Vader did indeed become limited after the incident with Obi-Wan. The prosthetics limbs dampen the flow of Force through his body, limiting his capabilities, but electrocution is wrong. In addition, Darth Vader HAS used Force lightning at numerous occasions despite his condition. Luke Skywalker had a prosthetics hand and he could also use lightning.

isnt that how he died from the force lightning?

He died from Darth Sidious lightning, not his own. His mechanical body made him weak to the lightning when applied on him by others. The mechanic status amplified the damage and became his undoing.

I thought it was because he did that blast thing.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Ofcourse I have, the act of transforming his particles into vapour THEN transforming them into his true form [b]REFORMING back into his physical form is a feat of mastery and control over your physical form to a degree of transformation. Your not even listening to yourself, your asking for proof of Kain reforming when he has to reform in the first place otherwise he would be stuck in mist form, wally.....

Because Kain does not use the force lol......Go and find the evidence of Galen instantly using the force then 🙂

Stupid? definaltey not half as stupid as you....I dont assume Kain remains in mist form and does not reform, I dont play "silly bugger" all the time because I have no real arguments Gumachi...

Because he was not trying to fighht Raziel, PIS. [/B]

No...you...have...not. Show me. I have only seen him reform in gameplay. If he is invincible, it WOULD NOT be a point for him to reform. He takes The Reaver from him, easily.

Play the damn games. Oh, and it's already been proven Galen Malek>Yoda.

Yeah, and you're just making up bullshit lies. Prove i'm Gumachi. Doesn't use the force? STFU. TK is still TK. Yeah, he had to concentrate from pulling down a Star Destroyer. You act like Kain is uber-powerful or something.

It looked like he was to me. He started to get serious soon after talking with Raziel.

Its a move/ability and its canon, cutscenes are not the only canon, simple fact.

lmao, you tell me to go and play the games for your evidence yet you will not do the same for mine? bullshit....get lost

lol, I think you have already proven you are Gumachi, your text and the way you type and constantly ask blundering questions is almost a mimic of him, and if you are not him, I will call you it anyway because calling you Gumachi is the best insult this forum can have. He is uber powerful.

Well thats because you do not understand the Legacy of Kain, nor do you understand Kains entire plan throughout all the games form the beginning is to use Raziel to achieve his destiny, not to kill Raziel.

Originally posted by The Valiant
Play the damn games. Oh, and it's already been proven Galen Malek>Yoda.

Wouldn't say proven. Strongly believed with good reason. Yoda is by no means weak, but it's really hard to compare two characters just like that. Yoda was wise and very cunning, and would know how to use the Force more efficiently, but Galen Marek is stronger in the Force and, according to Obsidian Fury stated by author to be top tier.

Although Obsidian fury did say in the novels and canon that he barely harmed Sidious, Yoda could without a doubt combe close to Sidious' power and actually is a threat to him. Its not like it actually matters, the point is that the force does not happen instantly, it takes some concentration and focus.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its a move/ability and its canon, cutscenes are not the only canon, simple fact.

lmao, you tell me to go and play the games for your evidence yet you will not do the same for mine? bullshit....get lost

lol, I think you have already proven you are Gumachi, your text and the way you type and constantly ask blundering questions is almost a mimic of him, and if you are not him, I will call you it anyway because calling you Gumachi is the best insult this forum can have. He is uber powerful.

Well thats because you do not understand the Legacy of Kain, nor do you understand Kains entire plan throughout all the games form the beginning is to use Raziel to achieve his destiny, not to kill Raziel.

Why didn't he use it when he fought Raziel?

You want to find out, find your own damn evidence. I'm too lazy to go find any cutscenes.

That doesn't prove anything. Yeah, he has trouble fighting weak ass vampires.

So?

It's bascially is proven Galen is better (stronger or whatever).

Kain never actually has trouble fighting anyone....

I am sorry, but in no manner, or form do I have to find any evidence for your side of the argument which leaves me currently undisputed in the thread.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain never actually has trouble fighting anyone....

I am sorry, but in no manner, or form do I have to find any evidence for your side of the argument which leaves me currently undisputed in the thread.

He did against Raziel, or he wouldn't have ended in the Demon Realm.

Undisputed my ass. You ignored post of my posts. He instantly popped someone's head, there (instantly using The Force...does that even make sense?). If he didn't want to kill Raziel, he wouldn't have throwed him into The Abyss.

Originally posted by The Valiant
He did against Raziel, or he wouldn't have ended in the Demon Realm.

Undisputed my ass. You ignored post of my posts. He instantly popped someone's head, there (instantly using The Force...does that even make sense?). If he didn't want to kill Raziel, he wouldn't have throwed him into The Abyss.

He did what? your not making any sense....

lol, he had him thrown into the abyss, it was all part of his plan, as the rest of the game shows, he needs Raziel as a wraith, because obvioulsy the soul reaver would never have excisted without him.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Would proof of instant use of the Force satisfy you? Or would you once providen proof ask for so much more proof than you ever provide others yourself? Because if given time, I can sniff out scans that prove instant use of the Force.

I would like to see Galen Marik himself use the force instantly, something powerful or enough to break someone into piecies at least, then I would be sustained.

Originally posted by Burning thought
He did what? your not making any sense....

lol, he had him thrown into the abyss, it was all part of his plan, as the rest of the game shows, he needs Raziel as a wraith, because obvioulsy the soul reaver would never have excisted without him.

He had trouble beating Raziel. If I remember, he had trouble in SR2, also.

"His plan" I thought he did it because Raziel surpassed Kain. And that it was "all-suppost-to-happen" type of thing.

Hes never had trouble in beating Raziel, hell in the intro we see Kain quite casually beating the cr@p out of him and laughing about it. Grabbing him by the neck, launching him across the room etc

Ofcourse it was supposed ot happen, and that was what it seemed to Raziel, however the actual event is explained in depth later on in the game. Kain knew Raziel would return.