Ganondorf runs a gauntlet.

Assumption, could have been PIS, thats all I have to say to break your argument to pieces.

Light arrows are actual objects, you would have to be a fool to try and hit the bolt which just so happens to have the very objective of hitting you, Ganon not looking and seeming the most intelligent of beings would probably actually try that, thus, kain wins without having to do much at all.

If you have to revert to something as lowly as that then I hope Namebro has something better for Ganons defence lol....and thats completly ignoring LOK canon.

You're a tool if you believe that, Ganon's the most intelligent character in Zelda, which is btw, a puzzle based game, full of intelligent characters, one of whom is the herald of the Godess of Wisdom.

Hell, Ganon could let the bolt hit him and it'd have no effect, does it effect bosses? Show me it affecting the most powerful boss in the LoK universe, it's the closest you'll come to Ganon. Your claim is baseless, and the ability has no feats.

And lowly? Lol. Your entire defense is that Kain can turn into mist, and you're claiming without any base Kain's abilities can effect a being far more powerful than himself while Ganon's powers cannot effect Kain. Let me highlight how poor an argument that is.

This fight lasts this long;

Ganon; Lollightning.
Kain; Ow. /splat.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're a tool if you believe that, Ganon's the most intelligent character in Zelda, which is btw, a puzzle based game, full of intelligent characters, one of whom is the herald of the Godess of Wisdom.

Hell, Ganon could let the bolt hit him and it'd have no effect, does it effect bosses? Show me it affecting the most powerful boss in the LoK universe, it's the closest you'll come to Ganon.

A tool? and the fact its a puzzle based game is neither here nor there, how can you be defeated by the same little Legolas midget so many times and not actually stand a chance despite having all these powers, hes nearly as bad as sephiroth.

As i said, resistance is whats important, various things in gameplay do not effect the bosses such as the instant spirit death or possesion abilities, despite the fact most of them are humans 🙄

Bullshit statement, a character far more powerful? this character in question has zero defence to most of these elements and is fighting a vampire who is not only ancient but has powers to stop almost all of Ganons attacks and in his youngest stages could give Ganon a run for his money, dont bash Kain when your defending someone who is fighting a legolas midget and loses.

Its more like

Ganon:ahaha! I am the king of evil! woah wtf...whats this mist entering my body!

arraaahhhh SPLAT! Ganons skull shatters and Kain casts off his remains.

also blood shower ftw

Lol, you're joking, right? Legolas midget? This statement only shows your ignorance of the Zelda series. Ganon's resistant to soul powers, has greater soul powers, has more powerful TK, can stop the most potent magic against him in it's tracks, survive trikes from a 1000+ ton character, tear castles out of the ground with a thought, ect.. Kain's got nothing. This isn't even a debate.

show me one feat of destruction on Kain's part even close to destroyign a castle? [Ganon's survived this multiple times with never so much as a scratch.] Show him paralyzing the Elder God or whatever in LoK. Show me anythign andicating any of his powers even reach close to the scope it requires to harm or affect Ganondorf. Do it?

PIS? Those jewel shaped prisons are a trademark, they allow Ganon to keep Zelda captured, it needs to be teleport proof. Is that PIS, or just good planning on Ganon's part?

Blood shower on a being so durable a castle's worth of exploding debris can't break his skin?

Youve not proven the resistance to soul powers yet. The TK is only becuase of an assumption, a massive assumption and still not yet proven. Kains repel shield can stop magic and physical attacks, hell magic attacks barely hit it, it just reflects them. And the last statement is bullshit youve made up, the developers never mentioned this 1000+ ton shit, if you want deductions then Kain turns the LOZ universe into energy fragments and dust.

Show me Ganon destroying a castle first, not that its relavent, humans, hell young children have been brought out alive from rubble, its not even a feat considering Ganon is obvioulsy beyond the typical human at least.

Its PIS that Zelda cannot teleport, unless its stated offical that they dont allow teleportation.

Blood shower is spell based, the spell is like a curse, the spell itself is not necesserily have to break the skin, just as long as you cant prove every pore on Ganons body is immune ot having his blood sucked out, obvioulsy not, all his veins burst, his eyeballs pour from their sockets and his throat ruptures so his blood pours forth, either way, blood shower ****s up Ganondorf.

Show me Kain using blood shower on something as durable as Ganon? :]

And sorry, but Ganon doesn't even need a physical body, so let's say, theoreticly, that IF it maybe could POSSIBLy affect Ganon; [Evidence plx?] Ganon discorporates, and bubbles Kain, or Lightning's Kain, or Crushes his head with TK, then reforms.

anyway, lunch time. I has a hungrish.

Show me Ganon using any of his powers against someone as old as Kain? or even as green as Kain? :]

Ah sorry but lets say he could do any of his other powers without physical form (evidence plx?) Kain just reforms or transforms into mist to escape any onslaught then takes Ganons soul with ease.

Guys," b) If a combatant's body is sufficiently damaged for the combatant to be physically killed, then he is considered defeated. This means that Kain can't keep coming back from the dead and Sephiroth can't "will" himself back into existence."

There won't be any reforming for either of them.

So Kain may not use mist?

Originally posted by Burning thought
So Kain may not use mist?

He can use mist. He can't come back if his body gets mutilated though.

So he can become mist and reform from the mist? I think i get what you mean.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So he can become mist and [b]reform from the mist? [/B]

Of course.

Good, well as I said, he eliminates Ganondorf fairly easily, the guy cant take soul powers AND time powers and has no real feats of durability shown that are far beyond a strong human.

Sealing in the gap between dimensions will work for everyone, wont it?

Not if that being can travel dimensions, and Ganondorf can unlikely do that quickly.

What do you mean Ganon's durability isn't beyond a strong human? Pack yourself with enough explosives to do away with a castle, detonate them, see what happens. Ganon took such an attack totally unharmed.

And I don't care if your don't believe in Link's strength being 1000+ because even class 100 attacks are far beyond what Kain can dish out, and Link is FAR above class 100, so you still lose that argument.

No he just took falling amongst rubble of his castle, nothing more. What are you talking about? packed with explosives, just because his castle was destroyed does not mean he took the same force, infact the Castle may have taken most of it considering its the castle that was destroyed.

I dont agree hes he can carry any tonnage at all, he would not use swords and hundreds of items if he can take his enemies on with his bare hands, throughout the Zelda serieis a ton of items have always been used, swords, bows, magic etc, if he was 1000+ or 100, he would not use such weapons and only your assumptions point at him being that strong.

First, you're wrong. Play TP. A castle explodes as a RESULT of an attack centered on Ganon.

Second, you're wrong. Canon disagrees with you and no speculation will put Link's strength anywhere close to as low as Kain's while he's fought Ganon. In every game by this point his strength is immense.

An attack from a dragon, the castle still obvioulsy takes most of the force for it to explode and he still is buried in rubble, nothing more, and he was quite high in the castle as well.

No canon disagrees with me at all. The only time it may is toonforce, which is not taken into account.

Originally posted by Burning thought
An attack from a dragon