Which you talking about, this?
Which you talking about, this?
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, that is Ocarina of Time, not Twilight Princess.I think he is talking about when Midna destroyed his castle in an attempt to defeat Ganondorf, which ended with Midna defeated and her Fused Shadows crushed in the palm of Ganon's hand.
Midna destroyed the castle in her attack on Ganon, and he was totally unharmed.
Also, toonforce? LOL. Weak defense is weak. So BT, you mean Link throwing the Goron is toonforce? And the intentionally badass throwing of the massive granite pillar is toonforce? This is like claiming Kratos holding apart Atlas' thumb and index finger is toon force. 😆
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
KORREKT.Midna destroyed the castle in her attack on Ganon, and he was totally unharmed.
Also, toonforce? LOL. Weak defense is weak. So BT, you mean Link throwing the Goron is toonforce? And the intentionally badass throwing of the massive granite pillar is toonforce? This is like claiming Kratos holding apart Atlas' thumb and index finger is toon force. 😆
Show me, theres always a discrepancy that I find in most of these claims, whether the power was tiny, or there was a specific scripted event, or it was because Ganon was holding item A and not B, or perhaps the castle itself was a wooden stick fort....so I would like to see.
Throwing the pillar was an inconsistancy feat, and the actual weight was worked out by you alone, not actually stated by the people who made the game, which makes it non legit, the Goron is toon force yes, he even bounces up and down like a toonforce character when he hits the lava. No its not, not at all, GOW is 100% mature game, meant for a mature audiance, LOZ is for younger players.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Show me, theres always a discrepancy that I find in most of these claims, whether the power was tiny, or there was a specific scripted event, or it was because Ganon was holding item A and not B, or perhaps the castle itself was a wooden stick fort....so I would like to see.Throwing the pillar was an inconsistancy feat, and the actual weight was worked out by you alone, not actually stated by the people who made the game, which makes it non legit, the Goron is toon force yes, he even bounces up and down like a toonforce character when he hits the lava. No its not, not at all, GOW is 100% mature game, meant for a mature audiance, LOZ is for younger players.
Lol, you never actually find any descrepancy, you just clm such, or cry toonforce, and you're always wrong. Canon>you. The castle was Hyrule castle, and it exploded when Midna attacked Ganon.
Also, the granite pillar is not inconsistency, it's STATED to be granite by Nintendo in the official guide, and is too dark to be anythign but black granite, and yet I mathed it as the MUCH lighter white granite, AND didn't include the full volume of the pillar, GG, sir. Through the game you do this THREE times, it's not inconsistant, it's a cutscene, it's canon.
The goron is not toonforce, and neither is that video. You're just trying to downplay a franchise you've never played because you hate it when Kain loses. </win>
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol, you never actually find any descrepancy, you just clm such, or cry toonforce, and you're always wrong. Canon>you. The castle was Hyrule castle, and it exploded when Midna attacked Ganon.Also, the granite pillar is not inconsistency, it's STATED to be granite by Nintendo in the official guide, and is too dark to be anythign but black granite, and yet I mathed it as the MUCH lighter white granite, AND didn't include the full volume of the pillar, GG, sir. Through the game you do this THREE times, it's not inconsistant, it's a cutscene, it's canon.
The goron is not toonforce, and neither is that video. You're just trying to downplay a franchise you've never played because you hate it when Kain loses. </win>
Lie, Canon also>you, unfortunatley its mostly against you.
And whats amusing is theres many discrepencies in this video.
1. Ganon did not even have physical form so not a durability feat
2. Its likely he used a teleport spell to apear because he ended up god knows how far from his castle minutes later.
3. We dont even see the explosion taking place with ganon inside, infact we dont really know what happened, we dont see it, so you and fanboys screaming "zomg castle exploded on Ganon!" is pathetic.
Its inconsistant, simply because Link is never a 1000+ tonner, or lifts a stone like that anywhere else and your the only one who claims its 1000 tons, not the developers. Too dark to be anything but black granite where? on Earth or Hyrule, because last time I checked Hyrule is not planet Earth. By less than your class of deductions Kain could wipe out most fictional universes by himself.
Its toonforce, you saying real beings bounce up and down in lava as well? youll be telling be bugs bunny repairing himself from dust while his mouth is talking in mellow dramatic tones is realistic? lol.....LOZ is an imature game, for young audiances,its no wonder theres a lot of toonforce.
Kain loses based on what? Ganon may as well be as strong as Hulk and as durable as the silver surfer, even if I accepted your fan fictions the weapons Kain uses make Ganon or Link useless. Hell as I said earlier, using your own logic, Kain wipes out the Hyrule universe, goes back in time then does it again....
You've only shown me a Goron bouncing in lava so how am I supposed to point out more toonforce? there are likely many other times than that, although one time is enough to point out the fact toonforce exists in LOZ and its still for younger audiences, that much nobody can disagree.
No thanks, this forum is not worth my time to spell perfectly, especially for intellects such as yours so it should not matter although I realise you cannot put a good Ganon argument together so you have to complain about spelling errors? I understand 🙂
Yes its for a much younger audience, hence toonforce and other cutsey mechanics and characters, I mean Midna is a little elf, the story seems to be based around one of those "zomg save da sweet pink pwincess!" sort of stories. Doesn't link get turned into, or turn others into bunnies? or blobs of jelly? its not on the level of seriousness or maturity as God of war, Legacy of Kain, Devil may cry etc
god of war, legacy of kain and devil may cry are mostly for youngr teenagers who go "YAY DANTE!!!!! **** DAT DEMON UP" quite mindless, but good, for what they are. zelda might look cartoony on the surface but is a far better developed game than the above, better story, and all, and has darker elements lurking underneath it. same with okami. just because sumthing is beautfiul doesnt mean its just for children.
more MATURE games, in the real sense wud be, xenosaga/.hack/shadow hearts/ beyond good and evil/rules of rose/silent hill/metal gear solid/okami/ico etc
zelda is a significantly better seroes then the ones u mentioned.
As I said, toonforce, "rescue pink pwincess" elements, DMC story is fairly light but the LOK is far superior to all mentioned including LOZ, the story of LOZ seems fairly simple, Link is simply always trying to stop Ganon from causing whatever evil he is doing, its like a reverse on cat and mouse, only the mouse is getting stronger along the way and eventually beats the cat.
The only one I know is Silent hill, which is merely a horror, the story is no more deep or adult than any other game and metal gear is not more adult at all....you must have just listed games you like, and not evaluating their maturity.
soroes? regardless, that does not make a diffrence on the maturity, its still a game for young players, with a fairly simple story and cutsey characters.
Thats just one part of it, the storyline combines deep time travelling elements where the sequels actually reveal new information as well as shed light on why certain things happened the way they did in previous titles. Most if not all of the story is fairly deep. Also this is just my opinion but Legend of Zelda has no voice acting that I have seen, its important in a story to actually get a feel for characters through voice acting, nobody can disagree that LOK series is perhaps one of the best games for voice acting.
Most games stories are fairly simple and common in comparison to LOK
Originally posted by Burning thought
As I said, toonforce, "rescue pink pwincess" elements, DMC story is fairly light but the LOK is far superior to all mentioned including LOZ, the story of LOZ seems fairly simple, Link is simply always trying to stop Ganon from causing whatever evil he is doing, its like a reverse on cat and mouse, only the mouse is getting stronger along the way and eventually beats the cat.The only one I know is Silent hill, which is merely a horror, the story is no more deep or adult than any other game and metal gear is not more adult at all....you must have just listed games you like, and not evaluating their maturity.
soroes? regardless, that does not make a diffrence on the maturity, its still a game for young players, with a fairly simple story and cutsey characters.
actually i like dmc a lot, as well as LOK and GOW. but they are NOT what you wud call MATURE stories, LOK is OK, not bad, but DEFINATELY not deep or truly well developed.
u say that about zelda because thats what it SEEMS to you on the surface. wacky character=/=badly developed story. look and JACK, story wise it beats most of the mentioned. look at OKAMI, Legacy of kains's story doesnt even come CLOSE. the former being one of the greatest games ever. and there ico, almost no story, and yet it has a story to tell, and not a childish one at all.
and i LOL ed at the "deep time travelling elements". if you want DEPTH, play xenosaga or silent hill. your judgement of silent hill is based in ignorance, its story is mature as can be and moreso, maturely DEVELOPED. having subtle but strong themes and allusion. metal gear solid has one of the best stories out there, and is quite mature in its own right. certainly better than LOG or devil may cry or LOW.
zelda is NOT just for children. a game that WUD be for children wud be the various incarnations of pokemon or digimon.
as for the DIALOGUE. its simply not true. final fantasy 9/crono cross/vagran story ALL have no aural dialogue and all are LIGHTyears ahead of legacy of kain, in character development and as games in general.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually i like dmc a lot, as well as LOK and GOW. but they are NOT what you wud call MATURE stories, LOK is OK, not bad, but DEFINATELY not deep or truly well developed.u say that about zelda because thats what it SEEMS to you on the surface. wacky character=/=badly developed story. look and JACK, story wise it beats most of the mentioned. look at OKAMI, Legacy of kains's story doesnt even come CLOSE. the former being one of the greatest games ever. and there ico, almost no story, and yet it has a story to tell, and not a childish one at all.
and i LOL ed at the "deep time travelling elements". if you want DEPTH, play xenosaga or silent hill. your judgement of silent hill is based in ignorance, its story is mature as can be and moreso, maturely DEVELOPED. having subtle but strong themes and allusion. metal gear solid has one of the best stories out there, and is quite mature in its own right. certainly better than LOG or devil may cry or LOW.
zelda is NOT just for children. a game that WUD be for children wud be the various incarnations of pokemon or digimon.
as for the DIALOGUE. its simply not true. final fantasy 9/crono cross/vagran story ALL have no aural dialogue and all are LIGHTyears ahead of legacy of kain, in character development and as games in general.
This is just a baseless statement, you need to give reasons otherwise its hopeless.
You explain Zeldas story then, its no deeper than what I said it was. Okami? I think your just listing stories you prefer, not that are actually better, I bet if you would explain the storyline of Okami it would be unconvincing or one of those lackluster storylines you see too often especially if you mean:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Ckami
If so....then its obvious your choosing what story you enjoyed or understood, not the one which is deep or unique at all because by the looks of the storyline described, its one of those "zomg evil spirit has to be stopped from destroying the world!" kind of things.
I didnt say it was just for children, I said it is better for younger audiances, its certainly not mature, and certainly full of toonforce and cutsey ideals and simple morals.
lol you could never debate that, Ive yet to see a final fantasy game with good characters and although ive not played 9 it cannot be much diffrent, it sounds to me your just a fan of Japanese made RPG's
LOK is deep and its sequels always fill some holes while creating more cliff hangers, most games, certainly not DMC, GOW do not do that.