Originally posted by Daredevil1
Its no secret that Cap is above Batman in stats since Cap is the peak of human potential while Batman is not. That's all this proves. Your confusing context for what it really is. In real life the old lady who lifted a car to save her kids was also consider a superhuman feat. Does that really make her superhuman in reality compared to others no.Cap is meant to be superior to non enhanced humans so of course titles like Super men or Super Soldier appear. Because he is superior but in the end thats still the peak of human potential. Not that hard to understand.
But it does thats why he has been also called almost superhuman. He's super compared to us but still not true superhuman by Marvels standards since there as so many upper classes. By your logic Nightwing is super in real life stats but not in DC.
Its super compared to us yes. That I agree with but its not true superhuman by marvels stance. Since he is the potential for humanity one day humanity will reach that level thus its not true superhuman. True superhuman is consider outside the limitations of man while the peak of human potential is "not" thus not true superhuman by Marvel stance. And that is the distinction that you don't seem to grasp.
I never said he wasn't enhanced. The SSS didn't change his Human make up if you read Operation Rebirth you would know this. No X-gene or no radiation bite. Do you even know what the SSS even did? He is a pure man evolved too witness a man from the coming decades. But still a man no less.
According to marvel. Yes I do recognize his other labels thats how far superior he is to a regular man. But since Cap is the peak of human potential he will never be true superhuman, since in the marvel verse humanity can potentially reach that level in time. Not now but one day in the far far future. This just means that Mans potential is strong in marvel.
Blah blah blah.. so basically you want to have your cake and eat it too because although you recognize that his titles ALSO reside with superhuman, enhanced human, super etc... you still want to kling to the "peak human" crap?
Once again, even if your argument to semantics had any clout if Cap is the peak of human "potential", then the peak of human potential IS superhuman.... 😐
And quite frankly you wanted to bring Batman into this debate and somehow try to circumnavigate around Cap's physical superiority when you already recognize it exists... it doesn't seem like you have much to say here, just looks like you were looking for an argument. Cap IS superhuman, that was the only point I wanted to get across which you've already agreed to... pretty much nuff said there.
Originally posted by jinzin
Blah blah blah.. so basically you want to have your cake and eat it too because although you recognize that his titles ALSO reside with superhuman, enhanced human, super etc... you still want to kling to the "peak human" crap?Once again, even if your argument to semantics had any clout if Cap is the peak of human "potential", then the peak of human potential IS superhuman.... 😐
And quite frankly you wanted to bring Batman into this debate and somehow try to circumnavigate around Cap's physical superiority when you already recognize it exists... it doesn't seem like you have much to say here, just looks like you were looking for an argument. Cap IS superhuman, that was the only point I wanted to get across which you've already agreed to... pretty much nuff said there.
How can it be superhuman if man kind can reach it. Superhuman is outside of human limitations. Your answer by blah blah blah shows you had no clue what Operation Rebirth did as your ignorance shows on the character Captain America himself. But thats OK hopefully you are informed now. Cap is not superhuman.
The fact that you try to make Elektra be something thats she's not tells the type of fan you are. he he he but thats ok too. 🙂 we are all fanboys at times.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Real humans have benched 1100lbs. recently but for only 1 rep. Besides Cap benching 1100 isn't out of his reach since he can military press 800lbs.
also capt feats put him over>800 pounds
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Has it been stated in a comic she weighs that much or are you using handbook stats?
Originally posted by Warrior18I didn't think we used sources like that?
http://marvel.com/universe/Big_Bertha
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I didn't think we used sources like that?
I know you're trying to be funny but here we go.
Handbooks are only a problem if they contradict what is shown actually on panel.
I've never really heard anybody claim character's weights are incorrectly shown on panel as oppsed to their bio entries................................
Originally posted by Warrior18Colossus' weight has been stated to be 500lbs. in handbooks and 2000lbs. in a comic.
I know you're trying to be funny but here we go.Handbooks are only a problem if they contradict what is shown actually on panel.
I've never really heard anybody claim character's weights are incorrectly shown on panel as oppsed to their bio entries................................