Wizards vs Mutants

Started by KingD1940 pages

He can sense people at pretty far distances, and the battle is at Hogwarts, so he won't have far to go.

Yeah, Voldemort was working in secret when he and the Death Eater openly attacked everyone at the school.

Only Harry has the invisibility cloak, why would he give it to Voldy? I don't care if he was on my team, the guy who killed my parents, and is responsible in part for the death of my godfather, get's no help.

Why would he be off his guard or asleep in the middle of a huge fight?

Originally posted by Impediment
Okay. I'll allow that.

However, Dementors, while a nice addition to this mix, are not wizards.

The Dementors are under the control of the Ministry of magic. Dolores Umbridge was a professor and headmistress at Hogwarts, and works for the ministry. She controls the Dementors. Therefore, they can be used here. Taking that away from the wizards is silly, it is a weapon they have at their disposal.

Originally posted by Robtard
So he's just going to know Xavier is the one to go for, despite the other mutants having visibly more powerful powers, like Phoenix, Cyclops, Iceman, Pyro, Nightcrawler etc. etc. etc. Yeah, stands to reason he'd target the bald cripple, just cuz.

BTW, occlumency takes concentration, i think, so those 3-4 that have it wouldn't be able to cast other spells while resistung Xavier's mental-assualt.

Thread starter said they have a basic knowledge of each other, which means surely they will know who the most dangerous mutants are.

The only instance the wizards will need Occlumency is when Voldemort apparates behind and death spells him.

Originally posted by Disturbed Angel
What if Voldemort disapparates from far away where Xavier can't sense him, apparate directly behind xavier, wearing an invisibility cloak, or a Disillusionment Charm and kills him from behind before he can react. Voldemort always works in secrecy. He is gonna wait til xavier is off his guard, or alseep and set Death Eater lookouts. Then once xavier is dead, and there is no more threat of mind rape, them everyone can just Avada Kedavra the rest of the mutants.

Why are you assuming Voldermont will have free reign to plan this little multistage attack, as Xavier isn't alone?

Why does Voldermort just know exactly where Xaviar is?

He's going to have to actively use his occlumency to keep Xavier from mentally sodomizing him, so him casting all these other spells is unlikely.

Not that he has an invisibility cloak to begin with, but Xavier doesn't have to rely on physically seeing someone to reach their minds.

And for the fast movers (Callisto, Deadpool, Nightcrawler, etc😉, Arresto Momento. Sure, NC and Deadpool will be able to teleport still, but at a MUCH slower rate.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And for the fast movers (Callisto, Deadpool, Nightcrawler, etc😉, Arresto Momento. Sure, NC and Deadpool will be able to teleport still, but at a MUCH slower rate.

No, they are fast enough to evade being targeted by spells.

You seem to forget that most spells take time to cast, as they need verbal commands and hand gestures to active them, most mutants can attack with their powers much, much faster.

Originally posted by Placidity
No, they are fast enough to evade being targeted by spells.

This is true, if Nightcrawler went berserk like he did in the White House scene, scores of wizards would have their asses kicked before they knew what was going on. *poof* some wizard goes flying, *poof* some wizard gets kicked in the face etc. etc. etc.

He could also pop around and take all their wands, given he deduced their need for the wands.

Originally posted by Robtard
This is true, if Nightcrawler went berserk like he did in the White House scene, scores of wizards would have their asses kicked before they knew what was going on. *poof* some wizard goes flying, *poof* some wizard gets kicked in the face etc. etc. etc.
But you are forgetting that each side has a basic knowledge of each other. The wizards will know of NC's abilities and be ready for him.

Hey, they have basic knowledge of each other, so they know to watch out for the spells and Dementors.

And how can you be ready for a guy who teleports around a room and downs like 15+ people in moments?

Originally posted by KingD19
Hey, they have basic knowledge of each other, so they know to watch out for the spells and Dementors.
How are they gonna watch out for something they cant even see? Hmm? Even if the mutants could see Dementors, the only defense against a dementor is a Patronus.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But you are forgetting that each side has a basic knowledge of each other. The wizards will know of NC's abilities and be ready for him.

And they're still too slow to react in time, if multiple machine gun fire can't hit him when he's on full throttle, spells aren't either, as the wizards would need a target first.

Basic knowledge means they know that when a Dementor is close, they feel like all happiness is gone, and they can suck your soul. They also know what a patronus is, meaning that some TP's can take over one of the wizards and make them patronus them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How are they gonna watch out for something they cant even see? Hmm? Even if the mutants could see Dementors, the only defense against a dementor is a Patronus.

The Dementors are going to be busy fighting off all but three wizards that Xavier is controlling. Xavier would also then "see" the Dementors through the minds of those he's controlling and telepathically let the mutants know where they are, as he "showed" a blind Cyclops the way out in Origins.

There's also the possibility of Xavier attacking the Dementors mentally himself, as they do think.

Originally posted by Robtard
And they're still to slow to react in time, if multiple machine gun fire can't hit him when he's on full throttle, spells aren't either, as the wizards would need a target first.
But he wont be full throttle, Arresto Momentum will slow him down to a snails pace. Dumbledore used the spell on Harry in POA, he was half a qwidditch field away and used no wand.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But he wont be full throttle, Arresto Momentum will slow him down to a snails pace. Dumbledore used the spell on Harry in POA, he was half a qwidditch field away and used no wand.

This assumes NC is just going to be walking around asking to be hit, when he can just start teleporting when the fight starts and be too fast to ever get locked on or seen. Poor Dumbledore will jusy hear a *poof* for a split second before he gets his ass handing to him. That is if Phoenix doesn't turn him into ash first or one or more of the wizards under Xavier's control doesn't do it first.

See, yet another mutant who's abilities are too powerful for the wizards.

Obviously at the beginning of the fight, they will automatically use the spell on Kurt, who'll just sit there and let it hit him. Not like he constantly dodged semi and fully automatic weapons fire, which is so much faster than spell casting.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Dementors are going to be busy fighting off all but three wizards that Xavier is controlling. Xavier would also then "see" the Dementors through the minds of those he's controlling and telepathically let the mutants know where they are, as he "showed" a blind Cyclops the way out in Origins.

There's also the possibility of Xavier attacking the Dementors mentally himself, as they do think.

Which is precisely why Voldemort will take Xavier out right away. I have explained this umpteen times, but you are refusing to acknowledging it. I have provided movie feats and evidence out the yazoo, but you still are refusing to accept it. Xavier will never even have a chance to use his mind rape, Voldemort kills Xavier, tag on the toe dead.

Xavier can atttack away at the dementors, but unless he can produce a patronus, he is ****ed.

It's funny, for all of Xavier's power, he is pretty much useless in this fight.

Originally posted by Robtard
This assumes NC is just going to be walking around asking to be hit, when he can just start teleporting when the fight starts and be too fast to ever get locked on or seen. Poor Dumbledore will jusy hear a *poof* for a split second before he gets his ass handing to him. That is if Phoenix doesn't turn him into ash first or one or more of the wizards under Xavier's control doesn't do it first.

See, yet another mutant who's abilities are too powerful for the wizards.

Phoenix can produce no patronus. Dementors pwn her. Pretty simple. You keep ignoring the FACT that the only thing that defeats a dementor is a Patronus.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which is precisely why Voldemort will take Xavier out right away. I have explained this umpteen times, but you are refusing to acknowledging it. I have provided movie feats and evidence out the yazoo, but you still are refusing to accept it. Xavier will never even have a chance to use his mind rape, Voldemort kills Xavier, tag on the toe dead.

Xavier can atttack away at the dementors, but unless he can produce a patronus, he is ****ed.

It's funny, for all of Xavier's power, he is pretty much useless in this fight.

And you assume that Xavier will both be alone and that Voldermort will somehow know his very exact location where he can just poof in behind him, how convenient. This is B.S. and you know it.

Xavier can mind-rape at the speed of a thought once the fight starts.