Wizards vs Mutants

Started by Robtard40 pages
Originally posted by omgchos
She was pissed at someone and it took him a few seconds to desintigrate. She got pissed and started killing everyone human and mutant alike. If she is so in control y was she killing her comrades. If anyone is in danger here its the mutants for being on the same side as the phoenix. And blocking doors does not stop teleportation. And what doors are you talking about. No actual location is specified in this thread?

FFS, now you're arguing that she won't be able to control herself and not be effective in a fight despite doing what she did in that Alcatraz scene?

That's digging deep for a win, congrats.

Or how about Mystique masquerading as friends of people, getting close, and killing them?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
To answer your first question it is because she didn't care. She knew who she was killing. If its not an attack on the school then oh well. They can't teleport far or it will be a self bfr. They would all have to think about teleporting before she grabbed them and kept them in place. I still say an army of Multiple Man would suffice with a punch to the face.

I think I read a fact somewhere that stated 'a punch to the face beats magic every time', so you may be on to something here.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
To answer your first question it is because she didn't care. She knew who she was killing. If its not an attack on the school then oh well. They can't teleport far or it will be a self bfr. They would all have to think about teleporting before she grabbed them and kept them in place. I still say an army of Multiple Man would suffice with a punch to the face.

She is not in control. You don;t start killing your friends and your comrades for no apparent reason if your in control. Multiple man is just a guy who can multiply. A blast of power like the one voldemort used to shatter all the glass in the ministry would be enough to knock that fool unconcious.

So what about that Fiendfyre?

Originally posted by Robtard
I think I read a fact somewhere that stated 'a punch to the face beats magic every time', so you may be on to something here.

I think you wrote it on a piece of paper and read it back to yourself saying. Yeah iv'e lost this argument let's start making jokes that aren;t funny.

Originally posted by omgchos
She is not in control. You don;t start killing your friends and your comrades for no apparent reason if your in control. Multiple man is just a guy who can multiply. A blast of power like the one voldemort used to shatter all the glass in the ministry would be enough to knock that fool unconcious.

What part of she killed her comrades because she didn't care do you not understand? She never cared about Magneto or anything, she was just there. She even threatened him with the cure in the woods. She even asked if Wolverine was willing to die for THEM, them meaning everyone she was killing humans and mutants alike. Like I said, the fact that she didn't kill Logan and Erik in the house shows she has control.

Glass is more durable than a mutant now or even a human?

Originally posted by omgchos
I think you wrote it on a piece of paper and read it back to yourself saying. Yeah iv'e lost this argument let's start making jokes that aren;t funny.

My bad, I forgot that the pro-Harry Potter argument is the only side who can make B.S. claims. ie "magic beats mutant every time."

Do stick to arbitarily gimping Dark Phoenix, I think you may convince someone, despite Wei spanking you.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What part of she killed her comrades because she didn't care do you not understand? She never cared about Magneto or anything, she was just there. She even threatened him with the cure in the woods. She even asked if Wolverine was willing to die for THEM, them meaning everyone she was killing humans and mutants alike. Like I said, the fact that she didn't kill Logan and Erik in the house shows she has control.

Glass is more durable than a mutant now or even a human?


It didnt just break the glass it knocked harry and dumbledore on their asses. plenty of time to hit them with another spell when they fall over.

Originally posted by Robtard
Using that thread as an example.

Asking you to prove that Lestat could over-power Wolverine's super-strength level with his own. Which didn't do, just stuck to 'he's a vampire so he's stronger.' Feel free to go back and post a movie feat from IWTV when you're able.

I'll get around to it 😉

Originally posted by Robtard
My bad, I forgot that the pro-Harry Potter argument is the only side who can make B.S. claims. ie "magic beats mutant every time."

It wasnt a BS statement. Magic goes against the very laws of physics. Mutants use forces already in nature to their advantage. Which do you think wins?

Originally posted by Robtard
My bad, I forgot that the pro-Harry Potter argument is the only side who can make B.S. claims. ie "magic beats mutant every time."

Do stick to arbitarily gimping Dark Phoenix, Wei is spanking you; it's funny.

Dark Phoenix aside, every mutant is potentially beatable by the wizards on skill alone. That's a fact.

Originally posted by omgchos
It didnt just break the glass it knocked harry and dumbledore on their asses. plenty of time to hit them with another spell when they fall over.

So MM automatically loses once he falls down? It may have left them on the ground long enough for them to get hit again but what exactly says that will happen to MM as well? Whats stopping the real MM just continually sending an army of himself while from a safe distance?

Originally posted by omgchos
It wasnt a BS statement. Magic goes against the very laws of physics. Mutants use forces already in nature to their advantage. Which do you think wins?

Mutants don't defy the laws of physics? Anyone who can fly should prove you wrong. How about a man who's powers are so great when released, his very eyelids keeps them back? That same man who's neck doesn't snap when he shoots.

Originally posted by Robtard
My bad, I forgot that the pro-Harry Potter argument is the only side who can make B.S. claims. ie "magic beats mutant every time."

Do stick to arbitarily gimping Dark Phoenix, I think you may convince someone, despite Wei spanking you.


I think the fact that you think she is infallible and omnipotent speaks for itself.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Mutants don't defy the laws of physics? Anyone who can fly should prove you wrong. How about a man who's powers are so great when released, his very eyelids keeps them back? That same man who's neck doesn't snap when he shoots.
The comic book movie logic defines the mutant as a natural being. Magic isn't natural.

Originally posted by omgchos
It wasnt a BS statement. Magic goes against the very laws of physics. Mutants use forces already in nature to their advantage. Which do you think wins?

Dark Phoenix turning people into ash with a thought is "natural", really?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Dark Phoenix aside, every mutant is potentially beatable by the wizards on skill alone. That's a fact.
DP is very easily defeated here. She does damage, but as I have said umpteen times, she aint immune to the death spell, nor is she to Imperius.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Mutants don't defy the laws of physics? Anyone who can fly should prove you wrong. How about a man who's powers are so great when released, his very eyelids keeps them back? That same man who's neck doesn't snap when he shoots.

That's not defying physics. Thats his own mutant physiology at work.

Originally posted by omgchos
I think the fact that you think she is infallible and omnipotent speaks for itself.

It's about time you pulled out a strawman argument, as you really didn't have anything else.

I said she can turn multiple people into ash with a thought, this is scene in the films. Do point out where I said "infallible and omnipotent."