Wizards vs Mutants

Started by Robtard40 pages
Originally posted by omgchos
Energy has no mass dude. IDK what science class you took.

Einstein's E=MC(2) disagrees with you.

Whatever cyclops shoots, doesn't follow real-world physics, which is the original point.

How do you think he smashed and sent that Humvee flying?

Force does not require mass. When a bullet ignites it creates force when the gunpowder erupts into flame. Which causes the bullet to fly out of the barrel. U don't need mass for cuncussive force. And his beams aren't really cuncussive force. They are beams of concentrated energy. As shown in origins. They caused the adamantium to heat up. Which means its heat energy, like a laser that destructs matter to some degree.

Originally posted by Robtard
Einstein's E=MC(2) disagrees with you.

Whatever cyclops shoots, doesn't follow real-world physics, which is the original point.

How do you think he smashed and sent that Humvee flying?


That is an equation to find the energy of matter. If there is no matter than there is no need for that equation. Stop quoting scientific facts in the wrong context please. And thats only a theory btw. Heat energy can cause a humvee to fly away. Look at lightning bolts. They can split a tree in half. Yet the clouds don't disperse when the lightning is discharged. This proves what im saying. He is discharging energy, not shooting out matter.

Originally posted by KingD19
If it had no mass, it wouldn't contour when it hit someone, it wouldn't knock them back.

And Jean can't telkinetically close blood vessels? Or crush the brain? She had enough strength to knock those huge steel blast doors clean off. I think she can easily do some major damage without the disintigration effect.

And what are the wizard's defense for Pyro and Iceman? And Kitty, who can phase and not be harmed by any of their attacks.

And Rogue, who can absorb their knowledge and magical abilities.

Pyro and Iceman can be killed with the death spell. They can be turned on their comrades with the Imperius curse. You want more? I can go all night. Cruciate their ass, Stupefy, Petrificus totalus........

Kitty, well, she'd be hard to catch, but how is SHE gonna kill a wizard? She displayed NO h2h skills.

Rogue? PLEASE, she has a nice rack, thats it. And she drains MUTANT powers, NOT wizard powers.

Originally posted by omgchos
She can't kill with a thought. She can use her telekenetic powers to rip someone apart. Xavier's pweres can be blocked through occlumency. Voly or Dumbly would be able to deal with both of them easily.

She wasn't killing them through telekinesis. It was disintegration. Xaviers telepathy is able to affect the entire planet's population if he wanted. Whats the highest form of TP they resisted?

No, that was a mistake by the makers of Origins, because in the other movies, the beam was strictly force. Otherwise that guard he hit would have a hole burnt in his chest. Everyone hit with the beam would have a hole burnt in them. When he blasted the water, it would have steamed up, instead of looking like it got hit with a hard impact.

Originally posted by omgchos
Force does not require mass. When a bullet ignites it creates force when the gunpowder erupts into flame. Which causes the bullet to fly out of the barrel. U don't need mass for cuncussive force. And his beams aren't really cuncussive force. They are beams of concentrated energy. As shown in origins. They caused the adamantium to heat up. Which means its heat energy, like a laser that destructs matter to some degree.
Caused the adamantium to heat up? To what degree? I havent seen origins yet, just curious. Did it cause the adamantium to bend or break?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Pyro and Iceman can be killed with the death spell. They can be turned on their comrades with the Imperius curse. You want more? I can go all night. Cruciate their ass, Stupefy, Petrificus totalus........

Kitty, well, she'd be hard to catch, but how is SHE gonna kill a wizard? She displayed NO h2h skills.

Rogue? PLEASE, she has a nice rack, thats it. And she drains MUTANT powers, NOT wizard powers.

Rogue's powers affects whoever she touches.

The bullet itself would be the mass and when it hits an object it would translate it's concussive force onto it.

Just as his beams would be the mass and the concussive force, unless you think 'nothing' sent a 4 ton Humvee flying.

She drains abilities, period. Saying she can't absorb magic powers is like me saying that the spells don't work on the mutants because of their mutated blood.

And Kitty could phase them into something halfway, like she did Juggernaut.

And the claws got red hot. Although, it wasn't supposed to be heat transferred at all.

Originally posted by omgchos
Force does not require mass. When a bullet ignites it creates force when the gunpowder erupts into flame. Which causes the bullet to fly out of the barrel. U don't need mass for cuncussive force. And his beams aren't really cuncussive force. They are beams of concentrated energy. As shown in origins. They caused the adamantium to heat up. Which means its heat energy, like a laser that destructs matter to some degree.

Origins sucked and was badly written, his beams were written as heat based. In the other movies they weren't. He never burned off anyone's clothes or skin.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Rogue's powers affects whoever she touches.
And how is she gonna get close enough to drain a wizard? She has NO combat skills, she is just a pretty face, thats all. If she tries to grab a wizard, they stupefy her stupid ass.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
She wasn't killing them through telekinesis. It was disintegration. Xaviers telepathy is able to affect the entire planet's population if he wanted. Whats the highest form of TP they resisted?

Only if he's in cerebro, which he doesnt carry in his pocket. And It takes a while for them to die see X2. So voldy would block it and say see ya later when he apperates behind him. So either way he loses. So your saying she had telekenisis her whole life then suddenly only could desintigrate i completely disagree.

Originally posted by KingD19
She drains abilities, period. Saying she can't absorb magic powers is like me saying that the spells don't work on the mutants because of their mutated blood.

And Kitty could phase them into something halfway, like she did Juggernaut.

And the claws got red hot. Although, it wasn't supposed to be heat transferred at all.

Apparate, dude, if the wizard is not there, she cant catch them. She has to get close enough to grab them, and when she does, death spell!! haermm

As soon as she touches you, you're immobilized, hell, if Logan couldn't move, no way any of the magicians could do it.

If she's phased, and attack won't effect her. She could always just phase a hand in their body.

Originally posted by omgchos
Only if he's in cerebro, which he doesnt carry in his pocket. And It takes a while for them to die see X2. So voldy would block it and say see ya later when he apperates behind him. So either way he loses. So your saying she had telekenisis her whole life then suddenly only could desintigrate i completely disagree.
Xavier had a Cerebro ipod, I thought you knew!!! haermm

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Origins sucked and was badly written, his beams were written as heat based. In the other movies they weren't. He never burned off anyone's clothes or skin.

Originally posted by omgchos
Look at lightning bolts. They can split a tree in half. Yet the clouds don't disperse when the lightning is discharged. This proves what im saying. He is discharging energy, not shooting out matter.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how is she gonna get close enough to drain a wizard? She has NO combat skills, she is just a pretty face, thats all. If she tries to grab a wizard, they stupefy her stupid ass.

Easy, turn Rogue into a super mutant. Touch Wolverine, Kitty, Xavier, and Deadpool. She'll be phasing, teleporting and healing from a lot of things.

TBH touching DP should be enough.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Origins sucked and was badly written, his beams were written as heat based. In the other movies they weren't. He never burned off anyone's clothes or skin.

Heat one moment and concussive force the next. When he blasted those soldiers it was concussive based, just as when Deadpool blasted Sabretooth into the concrete.

That movie was a wreck.

Originally posted by KingD19
As soon as she touches you, you're immobilized, hell, if Logan couldn't move, no way any of the magicians could do it.
Dude, she wont get that close. As soon as she tries, a wizard will fry her ass. Kitty is shit, Rogue is shit, Xaviers powers are nullified, DP goes down in the opening seconds with a death spell......... Whats next?