Wizards vs Mutants

Started by Wei Phoenix40 pages
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
DP is very easily defeated here. She does damage, but as I have said umpteen times, she aint immune to the death spell, nor is she to Imperius.

She survived drowning by some odd means, she's the Phoenix, she'll more than likely survive that too. How are they going to be concentrated on a DS when they see their friends getting killed left and right?

Originally posted by omgchos
That's not defying physics. Thats his own mutant physiology at work.

Not really when he has human strength and durability. Cyclops should snap his neck whenever he shoots but he doesn't. He doesn't have enhanced durability or anything that differs his skeleton from a human's.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dark Phoenix turning people into ash with a thought is "natural", really?

U keep saying a thought as if its so uber pwnage to do things with a thought. Wizards can teleport "with a thought", They can cast spell "with a thought". U assume she thinks faster.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's about time you pulled out a strawman argument, as you really didn't have anything else.

I said she can turn multiple people into ash with a thought, this is scene in the films. Do point out where I said "infallible and omnipotent."

And with one spell she is a goner. You really think she can destroy ALL wizards in less than a second? DP is actually a weak link here, there are ways a wizard can manipulate her into doing their bidding.

Originally posted by omgchos
U keep saying a thought as if its so uber pwnage to do things with a thought. Wizards can teleport "with a thought", They can cast spell "with a thought". U assume she thinks faster.

Teleporting lacks the offensive power DP showed with a thought.

Again what is stopping Charles from staying back out of the fight and using Cerebro to find the wizards?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And with one spell she is a goner. You really think she can destroy ALL wizards in less than a second? DP is actually a weak link here, there are ways a wizard can manipulate her into doing their bidding.

And since when was she shown to be easily manipulated?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Not really when he has human strength and durability. Cyclops should snap his neck whenever he shoots but he doesn't. He doesn't have enhanced durability or anything that differs his skeleton from a human's.

Physics tells us that ever action has a reaction. Energy requires no force to movie it. Therefore no force is going back into his head. The energy itself is what destroys things it touches. Like radiation.

Originally posted by omgchos
U keep saying a thought as if its so uber pwnage to do things with a thought. Wizards can teleport "with a thought", They can cast spell "with a thought". U assume she thinks faster.

Hahaha, now you're replying with an answer that doesn't pertain to the immediate topic. Nice.

You claimed magic [just] wins here because it "defies physics", while mutants are "natural" and somehow less powerful, 'just because.' They're clearly not, both mutant powers and magic defy physics and are illogical.

Originally posted by omgchos
Physics tells us that ever action has a reaction. Energy requires no force to movie it. Therefore no force is going back into his head. The energy itself is what destroys things it touches. Like radiation.

His beams are concussive force, there is ample proof in the films to support this.

Wei is correct, Cyclops' head should "naturally" snap off, yet it defies the laws of physics, maybe he's magical.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Teleporting lacks the offensive power DP showed with a thought.

Again what is stopping Charles from staying back out of the fight and using Cerebro to find the wizards?


He doesn't carry a whole room around with him. And most wizards have the ablility through occlumency to block that out. Voldy will sense the intrusion, teleport to charles and pwn him with the avada kedavra.

Originally posted by Robtard
His beams are concussive force, there is ample proof in the films to support this.

Yes, so what. Its energy. Not matter. It can be generated from one location and sent to another without force regardless of what it does when it makes contact with matter.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
And since when was she shown to be easily manipulated?
When is she shown resisting MAGIC? She will fall quicker than shit to the death spell. As soon as she elevates and starts her tornado of doom, BAM she is dead.

Originally posted by omgchos
Yes, so what. Its energy. Not matter. It can be generated from one location and sent to another without force regardless of what it does when it makes contact with matter.

Yet it is still a concussive force, meaning it has mass, there would [logically] be feedback.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hahaha, now you're replying with an answer that doesn't pertain to the immediate topic. Nice.

You claimed magic [just] wins here because it "defies physics", while mutants are "natural" and somehow less powerful, 'just because.' They're clearly not, both mutant powers and magic defy physics and are illogical.


Now your putting words in my mouth. I was commenting on the fact that magic is very powerful. It does things that no mutant can do. Like kill with a thought. Your the one not on topic now.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet it is still a concussive force, meaning it has mass, there would [logically] be feedback.

Energy has no mass dude. IDK what science class you took.

Originally posted by omgchos
Now your putting words in my mouth. I was commenting on the fact that magic is very powerful. It does things that no mutant can do. Like kill with a thought. Your the one not on topic now.

Magic is very powerful, as are mutant powers than can turn people into ash.

Phoenix can kill with a thought, as can Xavier.

Mutants take this win.

Originally posted by Robtard
Magic is very powerful, as are mutant powers than can turn people into ash.

Phoenix can kill with a thought, as can Xavier.

She can't kill with a thought. She can use her telekenetic powers to rip someone apart. Xavier's pweres can be blocked through occlumency. Voly or Dumbly would be able to deal with both of them easily.

If it had no mass, it wouldn't contour when it hit someone, it wouldn't knock them back.

And Jean can't telkinetically close blood vessels? Or crush the brain? She had enough strength to knock those huge steel blast doors clean off. I think she can easily do some major damage without the disintigration effect.

And what are the wizard's defense for Pyro and Iceman? And Kitty, who can phase and not be harmed by any of their attacks.

And Rogue, who can absorb their knowledge and magical abilities.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Mutants take this win.
Just like that? No explaination? No theory on how DP will avoid a death spell? Nothing on how Xavier is nothing more than a bald ass cripple in this fight?