the NEW GODS vs EXITAR

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
This is what I think of the whole "Darkseid is a concept" argument:

Darkseid: At LAST! My plans are almost in fruition, you are the last one who stands in my way, Kal-El.
Superman: I WILL STOP YOU!
Darksied: You fool! This is simply an Avatar, Darkseid is not a physical being, I am an abstract concept, a force of nature. How can you hope to defeat a concept??
Superman: By punching you in the face enough times.
Darkseid: ............. Oh.

KAPOW!

SUPERMAN... WINS!

😆 😆 😆

Thats why to defeat the real darkseid he still needed radion,darkseid to already be mortally wounded by orion,the black racer and the miracle machine right.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
heres my reason for making this thread. people think that celestials are powerful enough to individually effect and perhaps even destroy the universe and simultaneously take out almost all the mystical beings in th world combined. but at the same time, they cant individually beat galactus who on panel is never shown to have universe busting capabilities or even close to it. seems pretty inconsistant to me.

In an alternate reality where it was really Franklin.

So it's completely relevant.

^ Clearly. uhuh

Originally posted by Allankles
Given all their artifacts they would take down several celestials. Even without the worlogog or the ALE (like in this battle). Exitar is out of his depth.

Genesis box, Gwydion, Shadow Demons (anti matter entities further evolved by the Omega Force), Highfather merging several gods into single more powerful beings. Omega Doom. Not to mention some of Promethean giants they can control. Doomtubes. And other devices capable of destorting reality or turning any matter into pure energy.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Clearly. uhuh
In the same vein, I think I could combine Doom's tech and AIM tech and come up with as much plot-device tech power as the New Gods' that you listed.

Ok.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Thats why to defeat the real darkseid he still needed radion,darkseid to already be mortally wounded by orion,the black racer and the miracle machine right.

😄 Of course no one wants to mention that. In FC DS was beyond fisticuffs.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I ask AGAIN... Name me the strongest character that DS used the OS on and took him down?

That's already been addressed. How is strength relevant when the fabric of existence is being used to imprison the target?

You've yet to provide any evidence that would make Exitar immune to an ever adapting prison capable of bombarding a life form with an infinite number of realities until their ego is annhilated.

Originally posted by Enyalus
What if, like Exitar, you can and do exist in multiple points of space at the same time/simultaneously? Limited form of omnipresence. Thor 380.

Only the version attacking the New Gods is relevant.

Originally posted by Allankles
Only the version attacking the New Gods is relevant.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You quoted exactly what the OS is. Where is that quote from?

Seven Soldiers of Victory.

Originally posted by Allankles
Seven Soldiers of Victory.

can't say, aside from odin, no other asgardian gods were worth mentioning. balder was just well, balder.. and the warriors three well..meh..just warriors who stood out from the crowd and weren't much more powerful than the average asgardian...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah...I've only read the Mister Miracle issue of it. Do you have a particular issue in mind? 😛

Well actually I think it's from the last issue of Miracle, isuue # 4.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Could some of your DS lovers please give me the strongest character the OS worked on to give DS a victory.

Worked on Imperiex Prime which is clearly above Exitar 😉

Originally posted by Allankles
That's already been addressed. How is strength relevant when the fabric of existence is being used to imprison the target?

You've yet to provide any evidence that would make Exitar immune to an ever adapting prison capable of bombarding a life form with an infinite number of realities until their ego is annhilated.

No you haven't addressed it at all. What I'm looking for is not hyperbolic statements with no battle feats. What I'm looking for and asking for are battle feats against powerful foes like Exitar. It shouldn't be hard to name some powerful people DS took down ALONE with the OS since it's the ubber no limits weapon. If only they worked on Superman/batman/DD/Orion... then again those guys are more powerful then Exitar.... lol. So, again you didn't address anything and this shouldn't be hard... give me a character DS has taken down on Exitar level alone with the OS. It's really simple but you keep avoiding it because there are no such battle feats only hyperbole.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If only they worked on Superman/batman/DD/Orion... then again those guys are more powerful then Exitar.... lol.

You don't seem to understand what OS is since he hasn't used it on Superman, Orion or DD. He's already killed Batman with the OE, and used the OS on him in FC.

Here's the word for word description of OS. And please identify the difference between a description of its attributes and hyperbolic statements. This is what it is and what it does as per the comics.

Originally posted by Allankles
This is what's been said about Omega Sanction on panel:

"It is the fundamental force of restriction. The trap that follows you wherever you go. That moves as you move unseen and all around.

It is your life. Living oblivion. A weapon of Darkseid. Ever shifting, ever adapting the prison you cannot escape. The victim is born again and again in OS. Broken and blinded by the explosion of [B]being." [/B]

Originally posted by Allankles
You don't seem to understand what OS is since he hasn't used it on Superman, Orion or DD. He's already killed Batman with the OE, and used the OS on him in FC.

Here's the word for word description of OS. And please identify the difference between a description of its attributes and hyperbolic statements. This is what it is and what it does as per the comics.

Thank you for avoding the question for the 4th time. So, you concede that the OS has no battle feats or has worked on anybody of Exitar's level. You keep giving descriptions and hyperbolic statements and have yet to give me battle feats. So, thank you for once again proving my point and avoiding the question because you have no answer. You couldn't just said the OS hasn't worked against anybody on Exitar's level and actually on anybody of any significance. Thank you

The fundamental force of restriction? Honestly in literal terms that hardly means anything at all. It certainly doesnt prove that it would affect exitar. Not even close. No limit fallacies,ambiguous and frankly meaningless statements arent a substitute for feats.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thank you for avoding the question for the 4th time. So, you concede that the OS has no battle feats or has worked on anybody of Exitar's level. You keep giving descriptions and hyperbolic statements and have yet to give me battle feats. So, thank you for once again proving my point and avoiding the question because you have no answer. You couldn't just said the OS hasn't worked against anybody on Exitar's level and actually on anybody of any significance. Thank you

Again learn to identify the difference between a description and hyperbole. As far as not working on anyone of signifcance, what's that supposed to mean?

The avatar of the Source/champion of freedom/master of the life equation Mr. Mircacle and the Batman are far more significant than Exitar. 😕 But that's just me.

As far as whether or not it works on Exitar, you've yet to provide any argument why it wouldn't.